TDF Stage 14 - Sunday, July 18 2010, Revel - Ax-3 Domaines, 184 km

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May 13, 2009
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Publicus said:
Jeebus Levi is just not an inspiring/confident rider. I appreciate his honesty, but he really is wet noodle.

Levi has never been great in the mountains. All he can do is just hang on to others wheels.
 
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amazing ride by Gesink, good job. he made an excellent work for Denis today and gained 1 position in the gc, well done.
Denis is extremely good, finally we see a Giro form again. he was the first man, who reacted on AC/AS attacks. well done.
Nice ride by Samu, but he was dropped for a couple of times today.
Liqui.... who's surprised. the only thing is that didn't expect that bad performance by Roman.
Levy... goodbye podium.
 
Jan 11, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
Moondance, don't compare gesinks injuries with Cadel. In a different startosphere!
Do you have pain graphs to back this up? Gesink has been suffering for large parts of this Tour (he rode the Roubaix stage with a fracture in his arm, mind! And during the same stage he fell on the other arm, which has been hurting since then).
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Moondance said:
I imagine it will be measured in hours rather than minutes.

I hope he starts right before Leipheimer, so when Leipheimer gets to him at 10k, Levi will be wheelsucking him all the way to the finish ;)
 
Mar 17, 2009
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rhubroma said:
I understand Andy's tactic today. Just sit on AC's wheel and don't give a damn what's going on up the road. Brilliant to conserve the Yellow tonight, less convincing to win in Paris! He wants to make Alberto over exert himself. And Alberto can be suceptible to an over confidence and hasty reactions.

At the same time if Andy doesn't have at least a minute on AC going into the last time trial, he's done. But he didn't have the legs to attack Alberto today. While Alberto didn't have the legs to drop Andy. One cancels the other, though only one tried to put his nose out the window. Whose tactic will be more winning in the end? All of which makes the the race that more interesting.

We have learned today that there are no phenomenons in the race, whereas those like Basso and Kruezeger that thought at the begining to have prospects of glory have been detached from the plot.

Tomorrow and Thursday will tell us about Schleck's chances...and AC's.

I'm not sure what we will learn tomorrow with the technical descent.
 
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This thread is starting to drop off the back and into an insult slinging match.

Best to take a deep breath and ignore the subjective blindness that is descending.

Sanchez may cause a few problems tomorrow. It seems to be ideal for his particular talent.

A difficult day for the wheel suckers..........Yes, that means you, Bottle!
 
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Besides the Dauphne, when has Menchov put time into Contador in a time trail in the last few years? I can't remember any other that would suggest that Menchov can take any amount of serious time out of Contador. The only rider who I would say is undoubtedly a better TTer than Contador at this point is Spartacus. I don't see any contender who I would optimistically predict as being able to put a lot of time into him. Wiggo maybe, but he's out of the GC race.
 
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sh---ing the bed is a bit harsh, I am amazed he hasn't abandoned.

..um, you are familiar with my work...."harsh" would be a term I think could be used frequently in relation to my posts. Its kind of my thing...:D
 
May 25, 2010
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Unlike Evans, who tries to keep up until he completely blows up, like in the Giro.
Gesink would never do that. He'd just keep riding his own pace and chose to drop early, and then passing all dead guys like Evans.

Well.. Gesink is trying to hang in there because like he said "I can't". But he also said that he knows he can't do it, but what he knows is that he can keep up a fast pace all the way up so that's what he's going to do. And the longer the climb the better he gets. Let's hope he can show that on the last mountain this tour :)
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Moondance, don't compare gesinks injuries with Cadel. In a different startosphere!

Why? Because he doesn't cry about his injuries and bad luck all the time?

Also, nice typo in a post where you are praising your intelligence. :p
 
Apr 8, 2009
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Thoughtforfood said:
??? You guys come in here whining every day and posting stupid crap about people like Gesink and others and we are the problem? Is almost funny to watch...almost.

I am not rubbing anything in. Fact is that Cuddles can't hack it for whatever reason. Fact is that even if he were healthy, he would lose. It is his whole persona when it comes to GT's. I'd get used to it if I were you.
ive never even mentioned Gesink till you brought it up.......
 
Jun 14, 2010
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LugHugger said:
+1 but what do you expect from the hysterical Eurosport commentary teams? That idiot Kirby was saying that he was 'expecting Lance Armstrong and Cadel Evans to go for the win today'. The man is a cretin.

yep. I think many people sympathise a bit with Carlton though, cos he is their back up guy for a number of sports not just cycling, and clearly doesnt understand much about it, but still tries. Makes comical mistakes though. Like calling Basso as the Liqui guy all the way up the Ventoux when it was szmyd etc
 
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theyoungest said:
The TT isn't ideal for Menchov, but it certainly isn't for Contador either. He usually gains time in uphill parts, not on the flat.
Armstrong is saving himself for the TT.

BTW Menchow did destroy Di Luca (later banned) on a longish TT in the Giro last year - I was impressed by his stamina.
 
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I don't know why were talking about Evans he's of no relevance any more this GT. Bit like Armstrong who keeps popping up.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
This thread is starting to drop off the back and into an insult slinging match.

Best to take a deep breath and ignore the subjective blindness that is descending.

Sanchez may cause a few problems tomorrow. It seems to be ideal for his particular talent.

A difficult day for the wheel suckers..........Yes, that means you, Bottle!
its always the big bad aussie's fault isnt in?????????

I didnt insult anyone by the way....
 
Jun 22, 2009
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sportzchick said:
you want to count his and discount Cadel's injury....Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle

FWIW they are both doing one hell of a job just to hang in the tour

lol i haven mentioned evans [EDITED BY MOD] i think he is doing a gutsy ride. get the facts right [EDITED BY MOD]

in fact before correcting that [EDITED BY MOD] acf, i haven't even mentioned his injury once on this forum. so yeah, please shut up :)
 
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Mellow Velo said:
Sanchez may cause a few problems tomorrow. It seems to be ideal for his particular talent.

If he goes over the top with a group of the elite climbers again I would back him to create some kind of a gap on the descent and go for the stage and maybe 20 seconds in the GC.
 
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BroDeal said:
It is pretty much flat, so he should only crash once or twice.
And straight!!!!:eek:

Dekker_Tifosi said:
Unlike Evans, who tries to keep up until he completely blows up, like in the Giro.
Gesink would never do that. He'd just keep riding his own pace and chose to drop early, and then passing all dead guys like Evans.
Like in the vuelta...:rolleyes:
sportzchick said:
you want to count his and discount Cadel's injury....Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle

FWIW they are both doing one hell of a job just to hang in the tour

theyoungest said:
The TT isn't ideal for Menchov, but it certainly isn't for Contador either. He usually gains time in uphill parts, not on the flat.
It is a straight power tt so the hevier more powerful rider will do better which is menchov. AC likes technical course where he can accelerate out of the corners.

khodder said:
Huh really, a fractured Elbow was a fractured forearm...I would think that is rather similar to be frank.

Gesink is able to ride with the leaders and Cadel is way out the back indicates that Cadel is hurting and bobby g is not doing that bad
 
Feb 20, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
We are so much more superior in intelligence and morality than the euros and Americans!

Moondance, don't compare gesinks injuries with Cadel. In a different startosphere!

1. Tautology.
2, 3. Failure to capitalise proper noun.
4. Failure to distinguish between possessive and plural of Gesink
5. Typo.

So yes, certainly superior in intelligence.

Look on the bright side, at least you didn't embarrass yourself with a "could of", "should of" or "would of" in that statement. To make more than 5 grammatical errors in three sentences whilst claiming to be superior in intelligence would just have been overkill.
 
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BroDeal said:
It is pretty much flat, so he should only crash once or twice.

He could get stuck in a ditch after all... On the other hand, he is a good climber, so he should have no problems climbing out of that hole...
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
Armstrong is saving himself for the TT.

BTW Menchow did destroy Di Luca (later banned) on a longish TT in the Giro last year - I was impressed by his stamina.
Di Luca isn't a great TTer by any means. Menchov did however also beat guys like Leipheimer, Millar, and Brajkovic on this TT. It was totally different, though. It was really loooong, yes, but also really hilly.
 
Jun 7, 2010
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The Hitch said:
yep. I think many people sympathise a bit with Carlton though, cos he is their back up guy for a number of sports not just cycling, and clearly doesnt understand much about it, but still tries. Makes comical mistakes though. Like calling Basso as the Liqui guy all the way up the Ventoux when it was szmyd etc

He is awful at just about every sport he commentates. Budget cuts at Eurosport?
 

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