Team Astana's shameful legacy

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webbie146

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good news everyone, Astana got their pro tour license. Cookson the Wise has of course seen through these false doping allegations and done the right thing. :)
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I always like your post haha, your a funny guy :D

I'm glad though now Nibali can continue training without having to worry about all that other stuff :)
 
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Statement from UCI
In light of the above, the Licence Commission has subordinated the 2015 registration team to the two following conditions:

That the Astana Pro Team is audited by the Institute of Sport Sciences of the University of Lausanne (ISSUL) (2), an independent body recognised for its expertise in this field. The ISSUL will look into the circumstances of the doping cases at stake to determine whether and to what extent the team and or/its management is responsible of the recent events. Furthermore, it will assess the team’s internal structures, culture and management systems to understand whether these are adequate to ensure that the highest ethical standards are upheld. It will release its report early February 2015. The audit will be paid for by the Team.
That the Astana Pro Team adheres from 2015 to the internal operational requirements (3), which will be compulsory for all UCI World Teams from 2017 as part of the reform of men’s professional road cycling. Astana Pro Team will join a group of eight teams that have volunteered to implement.
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MatParker117

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What a complete f&^%$ joke this sport and the UCI are.

Please tell me there isn't ANYONE here who still thinks Nibali is "clean".

Cookson is a complete and utter fraud, phoney, tool, ball bag, and failure. He's almost as bad(if not worse) than McQuack.
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Licensing commission apparently ruled prior to the Padova findings being published:

UCI president Brian Cookson stated, “The case of the Astana Pro Team ... remains a very serious situation for our sport given the number of doping cases. We shall be following the situation very closely and are awaiting to review the results of the audit. Meanwhile, the team will have to comply with the two requirements imposed by the Licence Commission. The combined effect of this is that the Astana Pro Team can be considered very much to be on probation. "

Cookson said earlier that the report from the UCI Licence Commission came before it received the new allegations by an Italian investigation which accused the team of systematic doping. The statement by the commission confirmed this. “For the time being, the elements of this procedure are unknown to the UCI and the Licence Commission and no consequence can be drawn in this case at hand. The UCI would call upon the Commission if evidence against the Team is established.”

Should the team incur any more doping positives, if the audit reveals any "deficiencies or in case of faulty implementation of the internal operational requirements", or if the UCI confirms the offences brought in the Padova case, it "would prompt a referral to the Licence Commission to envisage, if necessary, the withdrawal of the licence."

The Licence Commission was asked to review Astana's WorldTour status after the two EPO positives of brothers Valentin and Maxim Iglinskiy, and the steroid positive of trainee Ilya Davidenok this year.
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The Licence Commission however warned that: “In the event that the audit would lead to reveal deficiencies or in case of faulty implementation of the internal operational requirements or if another doping case would occur within the Team during the 2015 season, the UCI would refer the matter to the Licence Commission for a determination on an eventual withdrawal of the licence.”

The Licence Commission also noted with respect to the recent allegations regarding the Padova investigation that as UCI is still waiting for the file: “For the time being, the elements of this procedure are unknown to the UCI and the Licence Commission and no consequence can be drawn in this case at hand. The UCI would call upon the Commission if evidence against the Team is established.”
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Escarabajo

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86TDFWinner said:
What a complete f&^%$ joke this sport and the UCI are.

Please tell me there isn't ANYONE here who still thinks Nibali is "clean".

Cookson is a complete and utter fraud, phoney, tool, ball bag, and failure. He's almost as bad(if not worse) than McQuack.
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Why don't you wait to see what he does before you jump to any conclusions?

Remember that anything he does needs to be consulted with lawyers. He needs to review the whole document.
 
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hektoren

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nice tweet from Marjin de Vries

https://www.twitter.com/marijnfietst/status/542790966470774784

I can't even expres how disappointed I am, @UCI_cycling and @BrianCooksonUCI. How do you ever expect people to start trusting us again?!
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There's really no shame in making an about-face when new evidence comes to light. NOT doing it, saying in-effect that "I've made my decision, regardless of any new evidence or what anybody might say", is just plain stoopid. Cookson is cooked if the UCI doesn't realize the all-too obvious blunder very shortly.....
 
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lllludo

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sometimes i think it's ruled by the dumb and dumber... or it's all just about the money :rolleyes:
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Why dumb ?? UCI has its logic and priorities :D
Indeed UCI performed well today : they've busted Europcar out of WT (not enough budget) and accepted Scinto's fluo boy to pro-Conti.
Yeaah Neri Sottoli is in !!!!
Good job being done at Aigle today !!!!
 
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hektoren said:
Cookson is cooked if the UCI doesn't realize the all-too obvious blunder very shortly.....
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Literally no one that matters at the UCI is concerned that Astana has a WT license. We got some nice, "we're monitoring the situation" talk again. What they are monitoring is how big the scandal gets before thinking about shutting it down.

Why they bust Horner *completely* out of the WT and Vino delivers Astana's money is perfectly okay is a complete mystery. But, about average for them.

Vino 4ever!
 
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While I would have liked to see Astana not get the license it is nice to see that the UCI is making decisions based on rules rather then the arbitrary manner of their predecessors.

Good write up here by the Inner Ring

http://inrng.com/2014/12/astana-uci-licence/

This thing is far from over. The conditions placed on Astana are significant. Yes, they did a mock champagne celebration on twitter but they are well aware they are in serious trouble. I do not see them making it the entire season.
 
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Ha! What a giant waste of everyone's time! There was NEVER a chance that Astana was going to lose their license. If it was pulled today they would have gotten it back from the CAS. Astana only had to cite the case from a couple years ago against Katusha. That was the precedent that will set the tone for semi- team organized doping. :(
 
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This thing is far from over. The conditions placed on Astana are significant. Yes, they did a mock champagne celebration on twitter but they are well aware they are in serious trouble. I do not see them making it the entire season.[/QUOTE]

They'll make it the full season, no problem. The UCI can't afford a scandal mid-season that has the word 'doping' involved.
 
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Irondan

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Race Radio said:
While I would have liked to see Astana not get the license it is nice to see that the UCI is making decisions based on rules rather then the arbitrary manner of their predecessors.

Good write up here by the Inner Ring

http://inrng.com/2014/12/astana-uci-licence/

This thing is far from over. The conditions placed on Astana are significant. Yes, they did a mock champagne celebration on twitter but they are well aware they are in serious trouble. I do not see them making it the entire season.
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That was supposed to be a quote from Race Radio. I'm still trying to figure out what all the functions do...:eek:
 
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Race Radio

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irondan said:
They'll make it the full season, no problem. The UCI can't afford a scandal mid-season that has the word 'doping' involved.
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The season will be filled with scandal. The CIRIC report will come at the start of the season (Or later) Ferrari's criminal charges should come mid season. Katusha has yet to be addresses. Might as well do it all at the same time.

This is not going away.
 
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Deagol

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This is a joke, I am done with cycling (as a fan of pro cycling) I just don't care anymore...

seriously,

have fun...
 
Race Radio

Race Radio

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Deagol said:
This is a joke, I am done with cycling (as a fan of pro cycling) I just don't care anymore...

seriously,

have fun...
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Enjoy golf, or rollerblading, or whatever.

I might be an unbeliever, but I'm still nostalgic about believing.
 
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