Team Bikes too shoddy- Which team?

[Hoop Dogg]

@wonderlance, that is one of the best...gold

 

[avanti]

It's not that long ago that pros had custom bikes built for them by the builder of their choice, then painted to look like a team bike.
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The problem with making customized composite frames is that the fixtures needed to manufacture them can cost a huge amount of money so it is only cost effective to make many frames from the tooling. Although with a new design the pro's might get first dibs on a frame.

 

[Anonymous]

That's it! It was 7-11's Huffy frames, which were actually re-branded Serottas.

Thanks for contributing that "hint"! XD

I saw an older man on one of those this summer. I stopped him to talk with him about it. Really cool bike and a really cool man.

 

[veganrob]

If this just happened, my guess is that the old Garmin riders chucked their new Cervello bikes.

 

[unsheath]

I forget which Italian team it was, but whichever team was using Cipollini's bikes swapped out in the last half of the season for re-branded bikes. this story was well circulated in Italian cycling circles, so this is probably what Cycling Weekly is re-reporting.

That'll be ISD Neri. Wouldnt surprise me as those Cipollini's are damn ugly. All brazen and bold like its namesake but bereft of any style and most likely substance.

 

[Chuffy]

That'll be ISD Neri. Wouldnt surprise me as those Cipollini's are damn ugly. All brazen and bold like its namesake but bereft of any style and most likely substance.

These bikes??

This was at the ToB in September btw.

 

[For The World]

I actually don't mind the look of those bikes. I'd surely ride one.

 

[Roland Rat]

There's your answer then, 'cos that ain't an original Cipollini bike. See the pic below from their 2010 launch:

 

[M Sport]

There's your answer then, 'cos that ain't an original Cipollini bike. See the pic below from their 2010 launch:

This weeks Cycling Weekly (UK) hints at a pro tour team being so hacked off at their sponsors rubbish bikes they simply bought a load from another brand and repainted them! Who was it?

ISD Neri is Pro-Conti. So it's not them.

 

[Roland Rat]

ISD Neri is Pro-Conti. So it's not them.

Is thatsallfolks certain of that wording? When I read it I thought is simply said "European" team, without reference to status. I may be wrong though.

Can't think which pro-tour team it might be, they all seem to have decent bikes. Unless they're referring to HTC switching from the new aero Scott to the original.

 

[Roland Rat]

'Which brand of bike proved so shoddy that a European pro team chose to re-paint a more reliable model and ride that instead'

No reference to it being pro-tour.

 

[tubularglue]

These bikes??

This was at the ToB in September btw.

looks like they were advertising it, as is

 

[Chuffy]

There's your answer then, 'cos that ain't an original Cipollini bike. See the pic below from their 2010 launch:

Yes it is. There are two bikes in the MCipo range, Mario is holding the top end RB1000, ISDN Neri ride the cheaper RB800.

 

[euanli]

ISD started the year riding the RB1000 before they switched to the RB800. I assume its because the RB1000 only has one bottle mount.

 

[Chuffy]

ISD started the year riding the RB1000 before they switched to the RB800. I assume its because the RB1000 only has one bottle mount.

It's also staggeringly expensive - the RB1000 is listed at £4100 just for the frameset.

 

[TheMasterLink]

I can assure you that all of our race teams use our bikes. Some of their bikes might be custom painted, but underneath they are all Specialized.

 

[The_Z_man]

The problem with making customized composite frames is that the fixtures needed to manufacture them can cost a huge amount of money so it is only cost effective to make many frames from the tooling. Although with a new design the pro's might get first dibs on a frame.

Cannondale made a Liquigas rider a custom carbon fiber frame, but only after many test frames were built out of aluminum. I want to say it was Petacchi, but I am probably wrong. Like the poster said, it cost a TON of money, so that's the only one I've ever heard of.

I can't find the article, but someone figured out how to make custom monocoques without making brand new molds. It sounded like a great way to go, because you could go back to the "Old days" of true custom frames.

 

[Black-Balled]

Most pros ride whatever they are given and naturally they will telll you it is the best bike they have ever ridden. An aquaintence had Rolf Aldags spare tmobile alluminum pinarello, he told me it was an extremely harsh riding bike.

Goodness! I wouldn't ride that too much, for fear of bodily harm!

 

[Night Rider]

I can assure you that all of our race teams use our bikes. Some of their bikes might be custom painted, but underneath they are all Specialized.

Do teams that are meant to be on other bikes, use Specialized instead?

 

[ultimobici]

Cannondale made a Liquigas rider a custom carbon fiber frame, but only after many test frames were built out of aluminum. I want to say it was Petacchi, but I am probably wrong. Like the poster said, it cost a TON of money, so that's the only one I've ever heard of.

Think you're confusing it with the frames that Specialized had made for Boonen before making his Tarmac.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Cannondale made a Liquigas rider a custom carbon fiber frame, but only after many test frames were built out of aluminum. I want to say it was Petacchi, but I am probably wrong. Like the poster said, it cost a TON of money, so that's the only one I've ever heard of.

I can't find the article, but someone figured out how to make custom monocoques without making brand new molds. It sounded like a great way to go, because you could go back to the "Old days" of true custom frames.

Petacchi rode a bike that was at least a different paint job from the rest of his team.

However, Petacchi rides for Lampre, so it can't have been him.

 

[The_Z_man]

Libertine,

I said I was probably wrong, and I was. It was Daniele Bennati. Also, I found the article I was looking for. Here it is.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Rabobank's Giants ?!

Where is the Dutch mafia ?

 

[dotcycling]

Most pros ride whatever they are given and naturally they will telll you it is the best bike they have ever ridden. An aquaintence had Rolf Aldags spare tmobile alluminum pinarello, he told me it was an extremely harsh riding bike.

I have one too (its Danilo Hondo's). Its not that harsh. Their back-up bikes were Pinarello Marvels.

 

[thatsallfolks]

no-one seems to know then. Come on CW- fess up! In reply to 'what's this thread for?', simple if a bike is considered too shoddy for a pro team, i would not want to pay big bucks for it (or sell one for that matter as I work in the trade).