Team Ineos Discussion thread

[BigCoward]

I don't think there's any good reason to write off Thomas. He's my favourite to win the Giro next year.

He's getting OLD.

 

[tobydawq]

He's getting OLD.

Valverde was 2nd in the Vuelta at 39 and he wasn't even a GT rider, people said.

 

[Netserk]

Yes, I'd put Thomas in the same category as Valverde and Horner.

 

[JRanton]

So we’re expecting Tobias Foss and Oscar Rodriguez to also be confirmed as new signings alongside AJ August but has anyone heard of any other rumoured signings?

There have been four confirmed departures so far and Plapp has been strongly reported as moving to Jayco. So that means there are at least two spare places. In their Sky/Ineos history the team has only once not signed a new British rider to the squad. Who is avaliable from the U23s? Robert Donaldson, Josh Charlton, Max Walker, Joseph Blackmore, Oliver Rees. Could we see one or two of those riders join the team?

Could Mark Donovan (Q36.5) be a shock new arrival? He was a stagiaire with Sky back in 2018 and has had a good season.

 

[Peter von]

He's getting OLD.

But he is still their best GT rider. I think INEOS had hoped to find someone to replace him with by now, but alas.

I wonder if INEOS also think G is good for the young riders. He soaks a lot of the media attention, he seems like he is a good communicator.

 

[JRanton]

So that’s Oscar Rodriguez confirmed for the next three years:

https://www.ineosgrenadiers.com/article/oscar-rodriguez-signs-with-the-ineos-grenadiers

Tobias Foss announced tomorrow?

 

[pastronef]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718982693545804070

View: https://twitter.com/Domestique___/status/1718982693545804070

 

[xo 1]

So that’s Oscar Rodriguez confirmed for the next three years:

https://www.ineosgrenadiers.com/article/oscar-rodriguez-signs-with-the-ineos-grenadiers

Tobias Foss announced tomorrow?

Announcement of the Foss signing is conspicuous in its absence. Perhaps it's not going to get done. The last "news" I see about Foss signing with INEOS is from late September. With most teams full - or at least with a fully committed budget - Foss could be in a hard spot.

 

[JRanton]

Announcement of the Foss signing is conspicuous in its absence. Perhaps it's not going to get done. The last "news" I see about Foss signing with INEOS is from late September. With most teams full - or at least with a fully committed budget - Foss could be in a hard spot.

Yeah, I’ve been surprised it hasn’t been announced yet but maybe next week. Ineos has made rider announcements on every day between Monday and Thursday for the last two weeks.

 

[JRanton]

So confirmation that Plapp is joining Jayco. One more place available for a new signing.

 

[Rob5091]

So confirmation that Plapp is joining Jayco. One more place available for a new signing.

It'll be a shock if it's not Foss.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Froome to return to reclaim his Tour crown.

 

[Savant12]

Froome to return to reclaim his Tour crown.

The only crown that Froome will be wearing is those paper ones you get in christmas crackers.

 

[xo 1]

So confirmation that Plapp is joining Jayco. One more place available for a new signing.

Did INEOS need a slot? I had understood they had several open places already. PCS shows 26 contracted riders without Plapp and no Wurf (about whom I've heard no rumors). INEOS has plenty of room, but unless they buy out some contracts for other riders, I don't see anything particularly tasty on the unsigned market. Very puzzling roster management.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Did INEOS need a slot? I had understood they had several open places already. PCS shows 26 contracted riders without Plapp and no Wurf (about whom I've heard no rumors). INEOS has plenty of room, but unless they buy out some contracts for other riders, I don't see anything particularly tasty on the unsigned market. Very puzzling roster management.

A big Budget Cut seems Like the only reasonable explanation.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Announcement of the Foss signing is conspicuous in its absence. Perhaps it's not going to get done. The last "news" I see about Foss signing with INEOS is from late September. With most teams full - or at least with a fully committed budget - Foss could be in a hard spot.

The Norwegian cycling journalist Magnus Aarre said in a podcast just a couple of days ago that Foss to Ineos is just waiting to be announced and that “everyone know he’s going there”.
Normally him and Jarle Fredagsvik knows exactly what’s going to happen with the Norwegian pros, they have direct lines to them at all time it seems, so I will be extremely surprised if it doesn’t happen.

 

[JRanton]

Did INEOS need a slot? I had understood they had several open places already. PCS shows 26 contracted riders without Plapp and no Wurf (about whom I've heard no rumors). INEOS has plenty of room, but unless they buy out some contracts for other riders, I don't see anything particularly tasty on the unsigned market. Very puzzling roster management.

Milesi would be an interesting signing. I’m expecting one or two more young riders to be signed from the U23s/Juniors as well.

 

[CHGJ2000]

The Norwegian cycling journalist Magnus Aarre said in a podcast just a couple of days ago that Foss to Ineos is just waiting to be announced and that “everyone know he’s going there”.
Normally him and Jarle Fredagsvik knows exactly what’s going to happen with the Norwegian pros, they have direct lines to them at all time it seems, so I will be extremely surprised if it doesn’t happen.

I think there may be a new Pinarello TT bike coming in the next few weeks. Just a hunch but if that’s the case I wouldn’t be surprised if Foss is announced at the same time, maybe Milesi as well.

 

[JRanton]

A big Budget Cut seems Like the only reasonable explanation.

Maybe but they’ve handed out plenty of contract extensions to the likes of Bernal, Pidcock, Ganna, Carlos Rodriguez, Hayter, Turner, etc over the last two years that will have involved substantial pay rises.

 

[samhocking]

10 million budget cut for Ineos for 2024 I think I read somewhere. Primarily staff cuts though.

 

[BigCoward]

They have too much money tied up in a lot of good, but not great riders. I suppose they are betting on leaps forward from the young classics riders, Pidcock and Rodriguez in GC and return to form of Bernal.

 

[CHGJ2000]

RE: The rumours a couple months ago that Theodor Storm would be going to Ineos in 2025, at the Copenhagen 3 day on the track he was using one of the prototype Princeton Carbonworks x Ineos trispokes that isn’t available to the public. Even Viviani didn’t have it at worlds probably due to them not having a track version yet as it was first used on the road in TDS.

 

[fmk_RoI]

A big Budget Cut seems Like the only reasonable explanation.

The fact that they were in the market for Evenepoel and in the market for Roglič suggests that a budget cut has not been demanded by the Plastic Emperor, who is still getting cheap advertising for his failing Range Rover knock-off.

But with so few win bonuses to pay out they've already had a big budget cut.

Which may hint at why they've chosen to stop publishing their P&L these last two years after having been so transparent for so long. I guess you only brag about the size of your endowment when you've got the biggest endowment in the peloton

 

[Wyndbrook]

The fact that they were in the market for Evenepoel and in the market for Roglič suggests that a budget cut has not been demanded by the Plastic Emperor, who is still getting cheap advertising for his failing Range Rover knock-off.

But with so few win bonuses to pay out they've already had a big budget cut.

Which may hint at why they've chosen to stop publishing their P&L these last two years after having been so transparent for so long. I guess you only brag about the size of your endowment when you've got the biggest endowment in the peloton

Profit and loss! This bike racing.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Profit and loss! This bike racing.

This forum. Christ on a bike.