Team Ineos Discussion thread

[Wyndbrook]

Possible that Giro field will not include any prior GT winners? Or perhaps Hart and/or Bernal?

Hart has stated he is planning to ride the Tour, Bernal maybe, his big aim for next year is the Vuelta.

 

[StryderHells]

Possible that Giro field will not include any prior GT winners? Or perhaps Hart and/or Bernal?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Simon Yates goes to the Giro, I wonder if Movistar send Quintana.
I would personally find it fun if we had a GT in which no prior GT winners started.

 

[BigCoward]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Simon Yates goes to the Giro, I wonder if Movistar send Quintana.
I would personally find it fun if we had a GT in which no prior GT winners started.

If all the GC riders who haven't won a GC went to the Giro, who would be the top 3?
Yates or Ayuso being top favourite?

 

[yaco]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Simon Yates goes to the Giro, I wonder if Movistar send Quintana.
I would personally find it fun if we had a GT in which no prior GT winners started.

My information is that Yates will again ride the TDF, despite murmurings in the press. Lets see who is right.

 

[Rob5091]

Back to Team Ineos (it is their thread after all) - missing out on Albert Philipsen and it's not for lack of money as that's not the main worry (apparently)

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...reveals-ineos-grenadiers-deal-will-not-happen

“There are three teams in competition for him,” Philipsen's agent, Alex Carera has told GCN. “Ineos and Jumbo are a no now. It’s Bora, Trek and UAE. With Ineos, we must understand what happens after the Rod Ellingworth era. ... “It’s not a question about money, it’s about the project because he’s a multi-disciplinary rider and there are some interesting teams who have given us details on their project but more time is needed," he explains. "It’s about his future, so it’s really important what comes next after 2024.”

 

[CyclistAbi]

So why are (talented) cyclists (predominantly) avoiding Ineos?

 

[Rob5091]

So why are (talented) cyclists (predominantly) avoiding Ineos?

Management is a mess by the sounds of it.

 

[Rob5091]

Storm - another Danish teenager - is off to Ineos a year early.

18-year-old Danish talent Theodor Storm will reportedly join Ineos Grenadiers next year

Theodor Storm was set to join Ineos Grenadiers from

cyclinguptodate.com

Theodor Storm was set to join Ineos Grenadiers from the start of 2025 but GCN now reports that the rider will skip the season in continental ColoQuick and turn professional with the British team from 2024 right away.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Back to Team Ineos (it is their thread after all) - missing out on Albert Philipsen and it's not for lack of money as that's not the main worry (apparently)

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...reveals-ineos-grenadiers-deal-will-not-happen

If all they do is press the young talents into the service of their GC or British riders on all stages who are not winning and not given their opportunities in line with their talent, its basically a waste of time and effort. Also due to the work put in, one is already tired even when the right opportunity comes along making it a non opportunity which leaves them open to failure but also cause them to doubt their talent and capability, thereby reducing their market value.

 

[Rob5091]

Ineos have only G and Rodriguez as a GT rider who could podium so the kiddies have a big chance in the near future. The interesting thing is Ineos seem to building a good classics/one day team.

 

[Bolder]

Ineos have only G and Rodriguez as a GT rider who could podium so the kiddies have a big chance in the near future. The interesting thing is Ineos seem to building a good classics/one day team.

Agree, with Sheffield, Turner, Pidcock, the Hayters, Tarling and Ganna there are some potential big wins. But I'm not sure if that's a good idea for a British team built on TdF wins.

Maybe Arensman will pan out. He has looked at times like a real talent.

 

[stonerider]

Ineos only really care about their British talent. If I were Sheffield, I would flee that team as soon as possible. He could be a star somewhere else. Otherwise, he will just be pressed into doing grunt work for some washed up British rider.

 

[kenk09]

Happy Christmas 2012 to you.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Radcliffe has a new £1.2bn toy - a quarter ownership of Man United. He'll need to spend half of that again in the next two years to buy a half-decent team.

 

[Anderis]

Ineos only really care about their British talent.

That's why their last TdF winner was Colombian.

 

[StryderHells]

Ineos only really care about their British talent. If I were Sheffield, I would flee that team as soon as possible. He could be a star somewhere else. Otherwise, he will just be pressed into doing grunt work for some washed up British rider.

Didn’t realise Ganna was British, someone should tell the Italian national team as he’s riding under the wrong flag.

 

[pastronef]

and Porte, Henao, Van Baarle, Poels, Kwiato, Rodriguez, etc

 

[Squire]

And that's also why in 2020 they dropped those pesky foreigners Froome & Thomas from the Tour team and put their faith in proper British chaps Bernal, Carapaz and Sivakov.

 

[Rob5091]

How much Sir Jim & Sir Dave are going to be interested in pro-cycling, now that Sir Jim has bought (a part of) his childhood favourite soccer team, and it's going to take some more cash and lots of time to get them back to their glory days. With all the coming and going this year at Ineos it won't be a surprise if Sir Jim looks for a potential buyer next year, or a merger with another team.

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...s-as-backers-blow-budget-into-manchester-utd/

 

[CyclistAbi]

So Brailsford to sign Remco with Manchester United.

 

[Bolder]

That's why their last TdF winner was Colombian.

Yes, but. Bernal had/has zero name recognition in the UK, and for a team that's based selling a copy of the iconic Land Rover, that's no bueno.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Braisford must've got Freeman in at half time for a pep-talk

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

So Brailsford to sign Remco with Manchester United.

He probably sent Jadon Sancho a Zwift bike for Christmas. Also I reckon a big lump like Maguire would do well over the cobbles.

 

[RedheadDane]

Well, they just signed some hapless Dane to work for the washed up Brits.

 

[Rob5091]

Theodor Storm (Danish) signs for Ineos (I await Kirby's cringeworthy puns) - at 18 years old you'd think he was the youngest at Ineos. Not so, Andrew August is 200 days younger, which brings us to Ineos's team line up for next year. A lot of youngsters - 4 teenagers and including them, 11 guys under 25.
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...nd-brigade-with-teen-sensation-theodor-storm/