Team Ineos Discussion thread

[CTQ]

Re:

If i recall correctly Kiryenka signed for two years last fall.[/quote

PCS has him with contract until 2018. Maybe they missed the news like me

 

[oldcrank]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

He's riding for Team GB, not as a SKY stagiaire, but it's great to see
Ethan Hayter right in the thick of things thus far in the Tour of Britain.

 

[therealthing]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

What's happening with transfers next year? The only rider rumoured to join is Ganna from UAE. Otherwise I haven't heard of any riders planning to leave, or even extensions.

no contract for these riders until now for next years:
Deignan, Dibben, Doull, Elissonde, Tao, Henao x2, Intxausti, Kiryienka, Lopez, Puccio, Rowe, Thomas, Wisniowski.
I believe Team Sky waits usually until the end of September for new announcements if i'm not wrong.

Of those I think will stay:
• Kiryienka and Lopez: older and very experienced riders who have been with Sky for years and seem happy there and are good GT domestiques.
• Tao will probably become part of their TDF mountain train soon.
• Rowe- settled at Sky and they will give him classics leadership + a spot on their TDF team.
• Thomas- pretty obvious.

Other than that I'm not sure. I wouldn't say any of them are a certainty to leave. Maybe younger riders like Sebas Henao and maybe Wisniowski who have been domestiques for a while and would like more leadership opportunities.

Intxausti seems finished and will probably leave- maybe a smaller team will offer him a place with smaller wages.

 

[CTQ]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

What's happening with transfers next year? The only rider rumoured to join is Ganna from UAE. Otherwise I haven't heard of any riders planning to leave, or even extensions.

no contract for these riders until now for next years:
Deignan, Dibben, Doull, Elissonde, Tao, Henao x2, Intxausti, Kiryienka, Lopez, Puccio, Rowe, Thomas, Wisniowski.
I believe Team Sky waits usually until the end of September for new announcements if i'm not wrong.

Of those I think will stay:
• Kiryienka and Lopez: older and very experienced riders who have been with Sky for years and seem happy there and are good GT domestiques.
• Tao will probably become part of their TDF mountain train soon.
• Rowe- settled at Sky and they will give him classics leadership + a spot on their TDF team.
• Thomas- pretty obvious.

Other than that I'm not sure. I wouldn't say any of them are a certainty to leave. Maybe younger riders like Sebas Henao and maybe Wisniowski who have been domestiques for a while and would like more leadership opportunities.

Intxausti seems finished and will probably leave- maybe a smaller team will offer him a place with smaller wages.

i don't see Deignan with Team Sky next year. he doesn't have many days of race this year. 35 years old in 4 days. i wouldn't be surprised to see him annoucing a retirement, staying at home with the baby.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

What's happening with transfers next year? The only rider rumoured to join is Ganna from UAE. Otherwise I haven't heard of any riders planning to leave, or even extensions.

no contract for these riders until now for next years:
Deignan, Dibben, Doull, Elissonde, Tao, Henao x2, Intxausti, Kiryienka, Lopez, Puccio, Rowe, Thomas, Wisniowski.
I believe Team Sky waits usually until the end of September for new announcements if i'm not wrong.

Of those I think will stay:
• Kiryienka and Lopez: older and very experienced riders who have been with Sky for years and seem happy there and are good GT domestiques.
• Tao will probably become part of their TDF mountain train soon.
• Rowe- settled at Sky and they will give him classics leadership + a spot on their TDF team.
• Thomas- pretty obvious.

Other than that I'm not sure. I wouldn't say any of them are a certainty to leave. Maybe younger riders like Sebas Henao and maybe Wisniowski who have been domestiques for a while and would like more leadership opportunities.

Intxausti seems finished and will probably leave- maybe a smaller team will offer him a place with smaller wages.

i don't see Deignan with Team Sky next year. he doesn't have many days of race this year. 35 years old in 4 days. i wouldn't be surprised to see him annoucing a retirement, staying at home with the baby.

I wouldn’t be surprised by a retirement either. He may well have been earning comparable money to (or depressingly maybe even more than) his vastly more successful wife, but next season presumably he’d have to take a pay cut no matter where he’s riding while she’s the marquee rider of a new well financed team. He probably doesn’t have the same financial pressure to get a last contract as many other career domestiques.

 

[wouterkaas]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez goes the same way as Xabier Zandio a couple of years ago and becomes a DS next year. Or he just retires and goes on riding goatpaths on his mountain bike.

 

[oldcrank]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

The SKY lads thus far have a number of 2nds in the Vuelta with Kwiato
in the Malaga stage one ITT, then again on stage two and van Baarle's
close call on stage twelve. But perhaps Team SKY's psychiatrist as well
as the world famous author of The Chimp Paradox, Dr. Steve Peters, is
going to inspire the boys to bigger and better things with his big victory
in the m65 100m also in Malaga at the World Masters Athletics Champs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjfcw4vOJ-A 200/400/relays to come!
Steve ran 12.53 in the heats, 12.54 in the semis and 12.56 in the finals.

EDIT: Wow!! That sure didn't take long!! :surprised: Wout Poel's beautiful stage
6 win at the ToB was obviously inspired by Steve's great 100 metre win!

 

[oldcrank]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

Awesome! Three days, three Team SKY victories! Dr. Steve on Thursday,
Wout on Friday and Yogi today. A beautiful example of how SKY staff and
riders inspire each other every single day to be the very best they can be.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

Awesome! Three days, three Team SKY victories! Dr. Steve on Thursday,
Wout on Friday and Yogi today. A beautiful example of how SKY staff and
riders inspire each other every single day to be the very best they can be.

Yes, but during Vuelta Sky is really dissapointing. Michał is fatigued after TdF&TdP, I have had no hopes, but what is going on with the rest of the squad? De la Cruz & Sergio Henao didn't compete in TdF and are nowhere, Sivakov was considered as an interesting prospect and showed nothing.

 

[rick james]

Seb henao should leave sky

 

[CTQ]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

Awesome! Three days, three Team SKY victories! Dr. Steve on Thursday,
Wout on Friday and Yogi today. A beautiful example of how SKY staff and
riders inspire each other every single day to be the very best they can be.

Yes, but during Vuelta Sky is really dissapointing. Michał is fatigued after TdF&TdP, I have had no hopes, but what is going on with the rest of the squad? De la Cruz & Sergio Henao didn't compete in TdF and are nowhere, Sivakov was considered as an interesting prospect and showed nothing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BneFH-xgpmS/?hl=fr&taken-by=pavel_sivakov
Very sad to leave lavuelta , with the very hard racing going on here everyday I was never able to recover from that nasty crash last Sunday. Today I couldn’t go any deeper. Just want to thanks my teammates, the whole staff and all the others who supported me during the race. I’ll come back stronger

 

[Red Rick]

Thomas extends for 3 years, as per Belgian commentary

 

[Valv.Piti]

Sergio Henao is just straight up bad this Vuelta, same with Hart who literally has showed nothing apart from being in the break today. Kwito is is still super strong, but is just wasting himself doing nothing in this Vuelta - riding pseudo GC the first 2 weeks, emptying himself in a break that had no chance etc. De La Cruz has just been bad this year.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

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Sergio Henao is just straight up bad this Vuelta, same with Hart who literally has showed nothing apart from being in the break today. Kwito is is still super strong, but is just wasting himself doing nothing in this Vuelta - riding pseudo GC the first 2 weeks, emptying himself in a break that had no chance etc. De La Cruz has just been bad this year.

Kwiato probably thought he would gain ca. 2-3 min as Majka did the previous day or even win the stage. But was of course wrong. So he just has no idea what to do to stress his presence in Vuelta.

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

Sergio Henao is just straight up bad this Vuelta, same with Hart who literally has showed nothing apart from being in the break today. Kwito is is still super strong, but is just wasting himself doing nothing in this Vuelta - riding pseudo GC the first 2 weeks, emptying himself in a break that had no chance etc. De La Cruz has just been bad this year.

Henao has just been really bad all year.

 

[MatParker117]

Re: Re:

Sergio Henao is just straight up bad this Vuelta, same with Hart who literally has showed nothing apart from being in the break today. Kwito is is still super strong, but is just wasting himself doing nothing in this Vuelta - riding pseudo GC the first 2 weeks, emptying himself in a break that had no chance etc. De La Cruz has just been bad this year.

Henao has just been really bad all year.

Top 15 of a GT and a national title is a bad year?

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re: Re:

Sergio Henao is just straight up bad this Vuelta, same with Hart who literally has showed nothing apart from being in the break today. Kwito is is still super strong, but is just wasting himself doing nothing in this Vuelta - riding pseudo GC the first 2 weeks, emptying himself in a break that had no chance etc. De La Cruz has just been bad this year.

Henao has just been really bad all year.

Top 15 of a GT is a bad year?

As a Sky team member squad, unortunately, yes.

 

[hfer07]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

So with G inking 3 years & Froome having 2 more (I guess), then I tend to believe Bernal is likely to be domestique and B plan for his entire contract with SKY it seems.....

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

So with G inking 3 years & Froome having 2 more (I guess), then I tend to believe Bernal is likely to be domestique and B plan for his entire contract with SKY it seems.....

I hope not. Thomas said he would be targetting Giro, so I hope Bernal would be there at least as co-leader as well. After that he will be a pure leader at Vuelta. Froome - of course with 5th win hope at TdF.

 

[del1962]

Any news on Kwiatkowski's injuries?

 

[oldcrank]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

Just a couple of altitude natives "climbing by the numbers". Team-mates soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhr9aHhnLIL/?hl=en&taken-by=ivan.sosa.cuervo

 

[Angliru]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

Just a couple of altitude natives "climbing by the numbers". Team-mates soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhr9aHhnLIL/?hl=en&taken-by=ivan.sosa.cuervo

Please no.

 

[oldcrank]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

Can Great Britain's cycling domination continue?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v6oKI3no4k

 

[Robert5091]

http://inrng.com/2018/09/team-sky-budget-2017/#more-34524

Team Sky’s budget for 2017 was £34,496,000, up 11% on the previous year as the screengrab from their filed accounts shows. It was equivalent to US$46.2 million or €38.6 million.

Again that’s for the year ending 2017, once the calendar year is done the accounts for Tour Racing Limited, the corporate entity better known as Team Sky are prepared and this time they were signed off in June. The team used to filed the accounts during July but now they’re posted just ahead of the statutory deadline of September (helpfully avoiding budget talk during the Tour?)
...
One note in the account mentions a provision for £2.8 million. This means they’ve set aside this money expecting “economic outflow to be probable”, a fancy way of saying they might have to cough up this money. This might be a small footnote in the accounts and a technical accounting matter but as a lump of cold hard cash it’s still significant.
...
Team Sky’s budget for 2017 was £34.5 million, their highest amount and by extension the biggest ever seen in the World Tour. This reflects an increased wage bill. 2018 should be bigger and it’s likely 2019 will be even bigger as they’ve just re-signed Geraint Thomas on a huge contract and according to The Cycling Podcast they want to give Egan Bernal a five year deal worth millions, quite possibly the biggest and longest contract to date in pro cycling.

There’s been a lot of talk about team budgets, caps and more. Yet there’s no hard data for the World Tour meaning a public debate built on guestimates. The UCI does get each team audited but the findings are kept very private. Sky are one of the rare teams to publish a full set of accounts (Ag2r La Mondiale do to), it’s a legal requirement in the UK. Keep an eye on the stockmarket takeover of Sky which could change the title sponsorship in the years to come.

I wonder if that £2.8 million has anything to do with Dawg's "problem" at the 2017 Vuelta.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re:

http://inrng.com/2018/09/team-sky-budget-2017/#more-34524

Team Sky’s budget for 2017 was £34,496,000, up 11% on the previous year as the screengrab from their filed accounts shows. It was equivalent to US$46.2 million or €38.6 million.

Again that’s for the year ending 2017, once the calendar year is done the accounts for Tour Racing Limited, the corporate entity better known as Team Sky are prepared and this time they were signed off in June. The team used to filed the accounts during July but now they’re posted just ahead of the statutory deadline of September (helpfully avoiding budget talk during the Tour?)
...
One note in the account mentions a provision for £2.8 million. This means they’ve set aside this money expecting “economic outflow to be probable”, a fancy way of saying they might have to cough up this money. This might be a small footnote in the accounts and a technical accounting matter but as a lump of cold hard cash it’s still significant.
...
Team Sky’s budget for 2017 was £34.5 million, their highest amount and by extension the biggest ever seen in the World Tour. This reflects an increased wage bill. 2018 should be bigger and it’s likely 2019 will be even bigger as they’ve just re-signed Geraint Thomas on a huge contract and according to The Cycling Podcast they want to give Egan Bernal a five year deal worth millions, quite possibly the biggest and longest contract to date in pro cycling.

There’s been a lot of talk about team budgets, caps and more. Yet there’s no hard data for the World Tour meaning a public debate built on guestimates. The UCI does get each team audited but the findings are kept very private. Sky are one of the rare teams to publish a full set of accounts (Ag2r La Mondiale do to), it’s a legal requirement in the UK. Keep an eye on the stockmarket takeover of Sky which could change the title sponsorship in the years to come.

I wonder if that £2.8 million has anything to do with Dawg's "problem" at the 2017 Vuelta.

Great!