Team Ineos Discussion thread

[Koronin]

It's the off season...that means everything for the next season can be talked about.

 

[dastott]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

The Sky Tour team will probably be the same as this year unless anyone is sick or injured (maybe Moscon could be replaced with another rouleur). Saving Bernal for the Tour is the safest policy. Probably still too young for two GTs a year, so Froome and Poels for Vuelta? The Giro would be wide open. I could see Sosa making a debut in either the Giro or the Vuelta. Perhaps Geoghegan Hart, Sivakov and Moscon among a young Giro team. Thomas or Froome not riding the Giro changes things a lot for Sky.

 

[rick james]

The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

 

[Red Rick]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

You don't think the allure of being a lone record holder would be huge if he wins next year?

 

[movingtarget]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

I think he will definitely do the Vuelta as it's one of his favorite races but I don't think he will train with the double in mind. It's all Tour next season. Froome generally does two GTs per season.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

You don't think the allure of being a lone record holder would be huge if he wins next year?

Wins what? Lone record holder of what?

 

[Squire]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

You don't think the allure of being a lone record holder would be huge if he wins next year?

Wins what? Lone record holder of what?

A 6th Tour de France in 2020.

 

[rick james]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

You don't think the allure of being a lone record holder would be huge if he wins next year?

Wins what? Lone record holder of what?

A 6th Tour de France in 2020.

No, unwritten rule, 5 and no more

 

[Nirvana]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

You don't think the allure of being a lone record holder would be huge if he wins next year?

Wins what? Lone record holder of what?

A 6th Tour de France in 2020.

No, unwritten rule, 5 and no more

Do you really think that if he'll win the Tour next year he'll never return to give a shot to a sixth one?
Everyone of the five times winners has tried to go for a sixth, probably Merckx would have even succeded if wasn't for the french fan punching him in the stomach on Puy de Dome.

 

[tobydawq]

Armstrong won seven times.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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The Dawg wont be going to the Vuelta.....i'm hoping its all in for the 2019 TDF.....2020 a Giro-Vuelta double

You don't think the allure of being a lone record holder would be huge if he wins next year?

Wins what? Lone record holder of what?

A 6th Tour de France in 2020.

Oh yeah, I was thinking about 2019

 

[rick james]

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Armstrong won seven times.

Let’s not go there

 

[Koronin]

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Armstrong won seven times.

7 in a row at that.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Yes, off-season.
Beacuse of ridiculous Tdf 2018 route (lack of ITT) GT should focus on Giro and Vuelta. And as I said his 2nd TdF palmary is less important than completing all GT wins. And of course CF 5th victory at TdF should be main target of Team Sky. So:
- Giro: Thomas, Bernal as protected co-leader;
- TdF: CF, Bernal, Poels, Kwiatek, Moscon and others of A-team;
- Vuelta, as a 2nd/3rd class GT: Thomas, Sosa, maybe CF if he wants to ride just for fun and kick some asses.

 

[rick james]

Moscon is going to the Giro

 

[Parker]

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Yes, off-season.
Beacuse of ridiculous Tdf 2018 route (lack of ITT) GT should focus on Giro and Vuelta. And as I said his 2nd TdF palmary is less important than completing all GT wins. And of course CF 5th victory at TdF should be main target of Team Sky. So:
- Giro: Thomas, Bernal as protected co-leader;
- TdF: CF, Bernal, Poels, Kwiatek, Moscon and others of A-team;
- Vuelta, as a 2nd/3rd class GT: Thomas, Sosa, maybe CF if he wants to ride just for fun and kick some asses.

My guess is that the Tour team will have a 'Classic Sky' make-up (Froome, Thomas, Poels, Kwiato, Rowe, Castroviejo, etc) while the Giro has a 'New Sky' roster (Bernal, Sivakov, Moscon, G-Hart, Sosa?, with some older heads like Puccio)

 

[Savant12]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

"Team Sky" no more after 2019.

https://www.teamsky.com/article/sky-to-bring-involvement-in-cycling-to-a-close-after-2019-season?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

 

[Midnightfright]

It's never good to see a team remove sponsorship but somebody will take that team on. Not at there current budget though. GTs will be more open from 2020 I will hazard

 

[Simurgh]

Kinda surprising, but not shocked, because there was a change of ownership with regards to 21st Century Fox or SKY itself some time ago, if I remember correctly..? I even think it was mentioned here. Hope that another sponsor can take over, or that the riders at least can find new teams (which shouldn't be a problem for most of them). Time will tell, if the Tour is going to be less controlled after SKYs departure, but I doubt it will be that much.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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It's never good to see a team remove sponsorship but somebody will take that team on. Not at there current budget though. GTs will be more open from 2020 I will hazard

Hallelujah to that.

 

[IndianCyclist]

A lot of expensive guys will disperse, most possibly G & Froome in different teams

 

[Robert5091]

So what happens with the 5 year long contracts? And does this mean Darroch's on his way out too? Be interesting to know who made the decision.

 

[Nirvana]

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So what happens with the 5 year long contracts? And does this mean Darroch's on his way out too? Be interesting to know who made the decision.

Long term contracts of some riders are a big asset now that Brailsford needs to find a new sponsor, especially if we talk about young and promising talents.

 

[May0maniac]

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So what happens with the 5 year long contracts? And does this mean Darroch's on his way out too? Be interesting to know who made the decision.

Long term contracts of some riders are a big asset now that Brailsford needs to find a new sponsor, especially if we talk about young and promising talents.

Yes, he should be able to find new sponsors and maybe now a budget cap for teams could actually help him and also drive more other sponsors towards the sport. If nobody else will be able to spend more than a certain amount of money on a team, then maybe other's will be willing to to the same, you won't need to spend as much as the really big teams are spending right now to be competitive.

 

[Red Rick]

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A lot of expensive guys will disperse, most possibly G & Froome in different teams

Froome had a contract until 2020? Thomas 2021? Or something like that.