Dear Wiggo said:Do you mind telling me how you found that link? What process did you go through?
I googled "Brailsford Team Sky Within Five Years 2009".
Dear Wiggo said:Do you mind telling me how you found that link? What process did you go through?
sniper said:tbh, it just gets uglier and uglier, seeing how this was all stage-managed.
you can't make this up.
King Boonen said:I googled "Brailsford Team Sky Within Five Years 2009".
Netserk said:And yet they managed to win the Tour with two different riders within those five years, both riders far from being GC contenders at the time the goal was set![]()
Saint Unix said:Managing to complete that aim with not one, but two riders two years before the five years ran out is dodgy as hell, though. Especially considering their starting point, which was beyond terrible. Britain hadn't had a rider capable of riding mountains since Robert Millar. Their best climber at the time the 5 year plan was put forward was Charles Wegelius.
If they put Geraint Thomas on the podium of the Tour it'll be beyond farcical.
Ventoux Boar said:When I'm here trying to work out someone's true intentions I go to their corporate PR department and ask them for a news release. These are genuinely objective, devoid of spin, and certainly not targeted at sports editors of mass circulation media.
Cases involving demonic conspirators sometimes need the the clarifying lens of 5 years' fearless, fair and balanced scrutiny. In the most serious cases it can be necessary to embed an investigative Jesus right up the death star to flush out the truth.
The clinic is at it's most naive, or disingenuous, when it takes press releases (and almost all journalism) out for a spin, declaring them some kind of marker for objective truth.
RownhamHill said:..., but I did find this:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/jul/09/tour-de-france-team-sky
"It was always expected that Sky's much-talked-about "first British winner of the Tour within five years" would be Peter Kennaugh or Ben Swift, but we should know when the race leaves the Alps whether Thomas can join those candidates."
With the benefit of four year's hindsight, make of that what you will. . .
Saint Unix said:Eric Boyer, who used to work for Cofidis, talked about a former Cofidis rider had dropped 6-7 kilograms and started winning stage races, supposedly with the help of AICAR and GW1516. Reeks of Wiggins. I think Wiggins was the prototype and that he got hold of the winning formula just as Team Sky was starting to happen. It's all a bit fishy, to be honest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MRvw1vSivM
6:20 into that video.
The Times says that UK Anti Doping (UKAD) has opened an investigation into alleged doping at the former Linda McCartney Racing Team, which raced from 1998 until it collapsed in early 2001, managed by Sean Yates and whose riders included Max Sciandri and, very briefly, Bradley Wiggins. The newspaper says that the investigation was launched as a result of information provided by team founder Julian Clark, who has recently finished a jail term for fraud unrelated to the team.
http://road.cc/content/news/71882-u...ens-investigation-linda-mccartney-racing-teameyewitness testimony from three individuals connected to the team who say that “doping was rife” within it
Dear Wiggo said:huh. Doesn't appear on the first page of links on the au version of google :-/
Netserk said:According to JV, Wiggo spend more time with the BC set up in 2009 than with Garmin (paraphrasing).
King Boonen said:You're slowly bringing me round on this...
slightly off topic: interesting how boyer also suggests that even losing as little a 6 to 7 kilos while increasing your poweroutput is hardly possible without doping.Saint Unix said:Eric Boyer, who used to work for Cofidis, talked about a former Cofidis rider had dropped 6-7 kilograms and started winning stage races, supposedly with the help of AICAR and GW1516. Reeks of Wiggins. I think Wiggins was the prototype and that he got hold of the winning formula just as Team Sky was starting to happen. It's all a bit fishy, to be honest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MRvw1vSivM
6:20 into that video.
Digger said:The Boyer Cofidis went on the win stage races story is significant...
Interesting that Wiggins says he lost all that weight with Mitchell...yet Cound told me that she was the one who supervised Froome's weight loss.
Maybe she's a nutrition expert...along with her other numerous talents.
sniper said:slightly off topic: interesting how boyer also suggests that even losing as little a 6 to 7 kilos while increasing your poweroutput is hardly possible without doping.
Justinr said:Its interesting that he says that. I've managed to lose twice that in the past and increase my power at the same time.
Justinr said:Its interesting that he says that. I've managed to lose twice that in the past and increase my power at the same time.
Were you in shape for pro cycling standards, though? What was your body fat % before losing those 12-14 kilos?Justinr said:Its interesting that he says that. I've managed to lose twice that in the past and increase my power at the same time.
hrotha said:Were you in shape for pro cycling standards, though? What was your body fat % before losing those 12-14 kilos?
edit: ok, ok, I get it, I'm late.