Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Bala Verde]

Ressiot also stated that some of the UCI experts were "surprised by certain much too 'normal' blood parameters" and advocated to prohibit the riders from accessing their blood passport data for the last three months, so that they cannot align their blood parameters to the values recorded previously.

If they adopt such a rule, couldn't they just go to their doctor and have them create a 'duplicate' passport, if they haven't done so already?

What was the stuff SKY presented at ASO; an overview of their riders' passport data?

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Just to clarify, iirc, it's not so much that the values were shockingly irregular, but rather, than they were w/in the acceptable parameters but likely still indicative of doping once the corrective methods revealed by Landis to Ashenden were taken into account.

Does that make sense?

Ressiot also stated that some of the UCI experts were "surprised by certain much too 'normal' blood parameters" and advocated to prohibit the riders from accessing their blood passport data for the last three months, so that they cannot align their blood parameters to the values recorded previously.

Lance's values weren't normal by any means. Your retics shouldn't drop like that. Your Hb, on the other hand, should drop by about 10% or more from start-finish at the Tour. It's not supposed to spike considerably, twice, and it's not supposed to be higher in the 3rd week. Add 10% to Lance's 3rd week Hb readings and see if he shatters multiple bio-pass CI's.

 

[halamala]

Cobo: Wiggins And Froome stronger than in last year’s Vuelta a Espana

“I get the impression that Froome has come on a lot since last year but Wiggins even more,” Cobo said. “They’re way further ahead than they were in the Vuelta and in the Dauphine I could see Wiggins was in a league of his own. His build-up for the Tour has been really impressive.”

“If he keeps going at that level he’ll be difficult to beat. He’s like a robot, his upper body is so still when he’s pedalling that it looks like he’s barely making an effort. Cadel Evans (BMC) and Danis Menchov will be up there, but Wiggins is definitely the big favourite for the Tour de France this year, on the same level that Alberto Contador was when he raced here. Right now, the rest are racing for second.”

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cobo-wiggins-and-froome-stronger-than-in-last-years-vuelta-a-espana

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Lol. Juan José Cobo is awesome.

 

[Ripper]

Dum de dum ...

Well, today, tomorrow and Monday should clarify if all of Sky is running so much better than everyone else or not.

So far I've been somewhat relieved to see that they have not been tearing up the front of the field. Of course, the real racing starts today. If they have several riders in the top 10 today, then it's gonna start getting a little interesting.

On another note, did I hear that Porte's been down a few times?

 

[Caruut]

Mick Rogers is dropping Bobby Gesink

I heard Porte down 3 times.

 

[Caruut]

Now Richie Porte is dropping Scarponi and Sanchez. At least try and conceal it lads.

 

[goggalor]

Well that was just ridiculous. How anyone who's followed cycling for a while can look at that finish and not raise at least two eyebrows is beyond me.

Of course journalists are always completely oblivious until someone tests positive, then we learn that they knew all along.

 

[issoisso]

I have the following statement to make on today's stage:

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Obvious doping is obvious.
Then again it was obvious a long time ago.

Oh wait, we can't talk about that, they're anglophones.

 

[spetsa]

Dum de dum ...

Well, today, tomorrow and Monday should clarify if all of Sky is running so much better than everyone else or not.

So far I've been somewhat relieved to see that they have not been tearing up the front of the field. Of course, the real racing starts today. If they have several riders in the top 10 today, then it's gonna start getting a little interesting.

On another note, did I hear that Porte's been down a few times?

The questions will start to fly after today's performance. Unbelievable, and I don't mean that in a good way

 

[wattage]

Don't worry, this is the clean era of cycling. Nothing to see here. Just move along.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

The peloton has gotten cleaner, but Team Sky High Hb are riding like it's 2005. The result is a disgusting farce.

 

[Runitout]

That was deeply uncool.

 

[goggalor]

Saunier Duval style.

Vaughters must be disappointed that the entire Team Sky is just physiologically better than everyone on his team.

 

[SaxonUK]

Well that was just ridiculous. How anyone who's followed cycling for a while can look at that finish and not raise at least two eyebrows is beyond me.

Of course journalists are always completely oblivious until someone tests positive, then we learn that they knew all along.

That's because we have something called 'Libel'.

 

[taiwan]

This Tour has been bought.

 

[Caruut]

That's because we have something called 'Libel'.

It ain't libel, kid, it's called '****ing in the soup'.

 

[Caruut]

Congratulations Team Sky!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lol this is just too obvious.

 

[thehog]

Congratulations Team Sky!

 

[DirtyWorks]

Well that was just ridiculous. How anyone who's followed cycling for a while can look at that finish and not raise at least two eyebrows is beyond me.

Of course journalists are always completely oblivious until someone tests positive, then we learn that they knew all along.

Three Sky riders in the top-10 with a *fourth* that would have been in the top-10 but for a unlucky puncture earlier in the week.

This is entertainment wrestling.

 

[SaxonUK]

It ain't libel, kid, it's called '****ing in the soup'.

No, no, it really is, without positive drug tests or another form of solid evidence, journalists will not go on witch hunts about riders who people suspect of doping.

 

[Stingray34]

Nice riding, UK Postal, that's how it's done. Recon, training, wanting it more, marginal gains.

Uncle Rupert will be happy; he wouldn't allow anything nefarious.

I'm off down the pool to find myself a swimming coach...and a dealer.

 

[Gloin22]

I have the following statement to make on today's stage:

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Obvious doping is obvious.
Then again it was obvious a long time ago.

Oh wait, we can't talk about that, they're anglophones.

Do you have any evidence ? Any real evidence except your view ? * laughs a bit*

 

[Arnout]

Do you have any evidence ? Any real evidence except your view ? * laughs a bit*

Yep a certain doctor.