Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[42x16ss]

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You must remember the glut of articles talking about their team bus. The same as the rest of the team busses apart from when it was impounded but that didn't get reported. The team was even giving guided tours of the bloody thing at races. The mystery and awe at which people spoke of the bus was ridiculous. Even the dumb fukc eurosport fanboy commentators would go on about it.

This is the kind of tame media that the team has. USPS blacklisted and bullied people, Team Sky look after them so well with bikes, holidays and jollys at races that no journalist could possibly believe that the team could do anything naughty and certainly won't try to chase up any possibly dodgyness.

e.g. https://twitter.com/Kenny_Pryde/status/687559634513752065.

gifts ok, gifts.

brand managing. branding, sponsor requests.

everybody during the media ride was wearing Kask and Rapha. you see pics with the journos wearing those 2 brands, that happen to be Team Sky sponsors.
the cost for them is not 300 pounds to produce a helmet and jersey/shorts. much lower.
have other teams thought about that? again, good marketing

brand management, and easy advertising

they rode spare Pinarello bikes too. no, they did not get them as a gift

as a dirty team, that´s one of the few sides of their PR management they manage well.
the other sides not very much

Riis did the movie Overcoming before the others, he had even employed the auteur Leni Riefenstahl to make the film.

I loved that film, it is still my favourite cycling film ever. No small reason is because of the amount of USPS myths it busted. It's still relevant for the same reasons now.

 

[blackcat]

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You must remember the glut of articles talking about their team bus. The same as the rest of the team busses apart from when it was impounded but that didn't get reported. The team was even giving guided tours of the bloody thing at races. The mystery and awe at which people spoke of the bus was ridiculous. Even the dumb fukc eurosport fanboy commentators would go on about it.

This is the kind of tame media that the team has. USPS blacklisted and bullied people, Team Sky look after them so well with bikes, holidays and jollys at races that no journalist could possibly believe that the team could do anything naughty and certainly won't try to chase up any possibly dodgyness.

e.g. https://twitter.com/Kenny_Pryde/status/687559634513752065.

gifts ok, gifts.

brand managing. branding, sponsor requests.

everybody during the media ride was wearing Kask and Rapha. you see pics with the journos wearing those 2 brands, that happen to be Team Sky sponsors.
the cost for them is not 300 pounds to produce a helmet and jersey/shorts. much lower.
have other teams thought about that? again, good marketing

brand management, and easy advertising

they rode spare Pinarello bikes too. no, they did not get them as a gift

as a dirty team, that´s one of the few sides of their PR management they manage well.
the other sides not very much

Riis did the movie Overcoming before the others, he had even employed the auteur Leni Riefenstahl to make the film.

I loved that film, it is still my favourite cycling film ever. No small reason is because of the amount of USPS myths it busted. It's still relevant for the same reasons now.

yeah, I am a massive fan of Leni too

 

[meat puppet]

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What would I give for an essay length taxus' rationalisation of landa being cleans.

Will David Walsh suffice?

Taxus is the better scribe and commands actual insider info. I want to believe.

 

[sniper]

Bit of topic, but just found these absolute gems from DrMarkBurnley.
Burnley 'addressing' the argument that Froome's transformation and Sky's TdF dominance are somewhat reminiscent of Lance/USPS.

Mark Burnley ‏@DrMarkBurnley 27. Sep. 2015
Logically*, Armstrong doped, therefore Wiggins, therefore Froome, therefore Radcliffe, therefore Armistead.
*not logically at all.

Mark Burnley ‏@DrMarkBurnley 28. Juli 2015
Watched The Armstrong Lie and Stop at Nothing last night. I thought, by and large, Sky/Froome are nothing like that.

 

[bobbins]

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...look how hard lance worked to shut 'talkers' up............do you think team

sky are succeeding were lance............failed?

Mark L

Well, they've bought David Walsh and keep the english speaking press in their pocket as well as employing the UCI presidents son. What do you think?

 

[Benotti69]

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...look how hard lance worked to shut 'talkers' up............do you think team

sky are succeeding were lance............failed?

Mark L

It was Lance's personality that did for him in the end. Also his litigative side rubbed others the wrong way. Lance as also cocky as hell and sloppy. Thought he was untouchable.

 

[42x16ss]

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Some teams (and riders) are more interesting than some others, as even this thread shows

It seems so. I guess that the problem is with us fans for wanting news on teams that have been racing already like Orica, Dimension Data, BMC, Drapac and Avanti instead of Sky's new cars, Landa and Kwiatkowski's new TT positions or Kwiatkowski and Froome's indentical new bikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ

Make that Kwiatkowski, Froome and now Landa's indentical new bikes....

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Some teams (and riders) are more interesting than some others, as even this thread shows

It seems so. I guess that the problem is with us fans for wanting news on teams that have been racing already like Orica, Dimension Data, BMC, Drapac and Avanti instead of Sky's new cars, Landa and Kwiatkowski's new TT positions or Kwiatkowski and Froome's indentical new bikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ

Make that Kwiatkowski, Froome and now Landa's indentical new bikes....

Oh ffs

 

[rick james]

Re: Re:

...look how hard lance worked to shut 'talkers' up............do you think team

sky are succeeding were lance............failed?

Mark L

Well, they've bought David Walsh and keep the english speaking press in their pocket as well as employing the UCI presidents son. What do you think?

Any proof that Walsh controls the English speaking press??

 

[pastronef]

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Some teams (and riders) are more interesting than some others, as even this thread shows

It seems so. I guess that the problem is with us fans for wanting news on teams that have been racing already like Orica, Dimension Data, BMC, Drapac and Avanti instead of Sky's new cars, Landa and Kwiatkowski's new TT positions or Kwiatkowski and Froome's indentical new bikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ

Make that Kwiatkowski, Froome and now Landa's indentical new bikes....

Oh ffs

yes Flo, I must admit this time I thought ffs too!

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Bit of topic, but just found these absolute gems from DrMarkBurnley.
Burnley 'addressing' the argument that Froome's transformation and Sky's TdF dominance are somewhat reminiscent of Lance/USPS.

Mark Burnley ‏@DrMarkBurnley 27. Sep. 2015
Logically*, Armstrong doped, therefore Wiggins, therefore Froome, therefore Radcliffe, therefore Armistead.
*not logically at all.

Mark Burnley ‏@DrMarkBurnley 28. Juli 2015
Watched The Armstrong Lie and Stop at Nothing last night. I thought, by and large, Sky/Froome are nothing like that.

The word "fanboy" comes to mind.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

...look how hard lance worked to shut 'talkers' up............do you think team

sky are succeeding were lance............failed?

Mark L

Well, they've bought David Walsh and keep the english speaking press in their pocket as well as employing the UCI presidents son. What do you think?

Any proof that Walsh controls the English speaking press??

No one claimed he does?

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

...look how hard lance worked to shut 'talkers' up............do you think team

sky are succeeding were lance............failed?

Mark L

Well, they've bought David Walsh and keep the english speaking press in their pocket as well as employing the UCI presidents son. What do you think?

Any proof that Walsh controls the English speaking press??

Who apart from Kimmage and Walsh (both Irish by the way) were going to rock the boat? Moore? Fotheringhams? Cycling media who are all fans with ipads? BBC? Who?

They only needed Walsh, the rest were never a problem!

 

[pastronef]

Re: Sky

it´s 3 bikes each now

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bob-jungles-specialized-s-works-tarmac-gallery/

Jungels-Kittel-D.Martin

Kwiato-Froome-Landa

 

[sniper]

Re: Sky

it´s 3 bikes each now

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bob-jungles-specialized-s-works-tarmac-gallery/

Jungels-Kittel-D.Martin

Kwiato-Froome-Landa

fair play to Sky!

Someone at CN seems to have been on the receiving end of that 300 euro Rapha assecoire package.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Who apart from Kimmage and Walsh (both Irish by the way) were going to rock the boat? Moore? Fotheringhams? Cycling media who are all fans with ipads? BBC? Who?

They only needed Walsh, the rest were never a problem!

BBC's Mark Daly broke the Mo Farah Story
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32877702

 

[thehog]

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Who apart from Kimmage and Walsh (both Irish by the way) were going to rock the boat? Moore? Fotheringhams? Cycling media who are all fans with ipads? BBC? Who?

They only needed Walsh, the rest were never a problem!

BBC's Mark Daly broke the Mo Farah Story
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32877702

Slight correction, Mark Daly is from BBC Scotland, not BBC central. Apparently Scotland wants to become a republic and break away from the UK

Good story by Mark. Of course it's not possible to beat the passport until an rank a amateur athlete decided to do it by ordering *** off the internet. Thumbs up WADA!

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Good story by Mark. Of course it's not possible to beat the passport until an rank a amateur athlete decided to do it by ordering **** off the internet. Thumbs up WADA!

There had been plenty of studies showing the fallibility of the passport and French TV beat the Beeb to doing it as reality TV. As for the Farah side of the story: that was shared by Epstein, no, and (one presumes) USADA, who seemed to be on a bit of a fishing expedition the way they briefed the media.

 

[Benotti69]

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Who apart from Kimmage and Walsh (both Irish by the way) were going to rock the boat? Moore? Fotheringhams? Cycling media who are all fans with ipads? BBC? Who?

They only needed Walsh, the rest were never a problem!

BBC's Mark Daly broke the Mo Farah Story
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32877702

Mo has not signed for Sky....yet!

 

[meat puppet]

Re: Sky

Landa on Aru, pun intended?

"I’m looking forward to the juiciness of being rivals having previously been teammates."

 

[doperhopper]

Re: Sky

Landa on Aru, pun intended?

"I’m looking forward to the juiciness of being rivals having previously been teammates."

Palma velodrome is the new Teide, check out GCN exclusive SKYcamp video... but I'm afraid Landa may hit the barriers in the first corner, as they've found the ultimate TT position: head down, looking at the stem, checking the white line (will they paint the line on the road? That would be a marginal gain!)

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Sky

Uhmm I believe that's #4 - all Pinarello F8 Dogma's. At least Etixx has two types to show: Tarmac and Venge

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/geraint-thomas-2016-team-sky-pinarello-dogma-f8/

 

[roundabout]

Re: Sky

Don't give them page views and they will tone it down?

Maybe?

 

[sniper]

Re: Sky

Don't give them page views and they will tone it down?

Maybe?

that's a bit like only criticizing the dopers and not the facilitators/enablers.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Sky

Uhmm I believe that's #4 - all Pinarello F8 Dogma's. At least Etixx has two types to show: Tarmac and Venge

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/geraint-thomas-2016-team-sky-pinarello-dogma-f8/

FFS

To get Froome's, Landa's and Kwiatkowski's bikes CN/Bikeradar must have sent someone to the camp yeah? So why not just do a freaking special on the bikes and maybe give us a look at what other teams are riding too?

Katusha and Movistar for example are on all new Canyons, but you wouldn't know. Yet Sky get 4 specials on a bike identical to what they rode last year