Most attacks fail. Attacks are costly. There are no more tour days to gain back time lost through a failed costly attack.
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scapewalker said:I think we might have been wrong when it comes to to sky "outdpoing" their competitors.
Watching todays stage i do feel like they resorted to a way better strategy as in mixing sleeping pills in the bottles of other teams.
Just unreal how a bunch of GC guys within 20 seconds of each other won't launch a single attack on the last mountain stage.
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kwikki said:Sky were neither here nor there when it came to second and third places.
Sky had one rider in the top ten, unlike Movistar who had two in the top 6. Apart from Froome, Sky didn't have a rider within nearly 8 minutes of top ten.
(I'm saying top ten because fans new to the sport don't seem to understand what 'GC rider means')
thehog said:scapewalker said:I think we might have been wrong when it comes to to sky "outdpoing" their competitors.
Watching todays stage i do feel like they resorted to a way better strategy as in mixing sleeping pills in the bottles of other teams.
Just unreal how a bunch of GC guys within 20 seconds of each other won't launch a single attack on the last mountain stage.
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I sense a truce was arranged prior to today's stage. A few days back Bardet and Quintana wouldn't have expected to finish 2nd & 3rd. There was little point in them attacking to lose those places.
kwikki said:Most attacks fail. Attacks are costly. There are no more tour days to gain back time lost through a failed costly attack.
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kwikki said:Sky were neither here nor there when it came to second and third places.
Sky had one rider in the top ten, unlike Movistar who had two in the top 6. Apart from Froome, Sky didn't have a rider within nearly 8 minutes of top ten.
(I'm saying top ten because fans new to the sport don't seem to understand what 'GC rider means')
PremierAndrew said:kwikki said:Sky were neither here nor there when it came to second and third places.
Sky had one rider in the top ten, unlike Movistar who had two in the top 6. Apart from Froome, Sky didn't have a rider within nearly 8 minutes of top ten.
(I'm saying top ten because fans new to the sport don't seem to understand what 'GC rider means')
But they had 5 or 6 riders (Froome Landa Poels Henao Thomas Nieve) capable of finishing in the top 10, who sacrificed themselves for Froome's yellow
Guess that's what having the highest budget in the peloton and spending a large chunk on a Tour team gets you, but Poels in particular was very suspicious
BYOP88 said:kwikki said:Sky were neither here nor there when it came to second and third places.
Sky had one rider in the top ten, unlike Movistar who had two in the top 6. Apart from Froome, Sky didn't have a rider within nearly 8 minutes of top ten.
(I'm saying top ten because fans new to the sport don't seem to understand what 'GC rider means')
Still going with this? So Astana/LottoNL/Trek didn't send a GC guy to the tour, because they didn't have a rider in the top 10?
kwikki said:BYOP88 said:kwikki said:Sky were neither here nor there when it came to second and third places.
Sky had one rider in the top ten, unlike Movistar who had two in the top 6. Apart from Froome, Sky didn't have a rider within nearly 8 minutes of top ten.
(I'm saying top ten because fans new to the sport don't seem to understand what 'GC rider means')
Still going with this? So Astana/LottoNL/Trek didn't send a GC guy to the tour, because they didn't have a rider in the top 10?
They failed. You are making a different point.
kwikki said:Nope. I've not been saying that. You've misunderstood.
It's about potential, intent and previous success.
BYOP88 said:kwikki said:Nope. I've not been saying that. You've misunderstood.
It's about potential, intent and previous success.
Ok so Aru finished outside the Top 10 in this race, does that mean he's not a GC guy for this race? If he finishes Top10 in the next stage race he enters is he back to being a GC guy?
kwikki said:BYOP88 said:kwikki said:Nope. I've not been saying that. You've misunderstood.
It's about potential, intent and previous success.
Ok so Aru finished outside the Top 10 in this race, does that mean he's not a GC guy for this race? If he finishes Top10 in the next stage race he enters is he back to being a GC guy?
Jeez, BYOP, I love you man. But go and have a beer or something.
SeriousSam said:Another Tour, another ridiculous Sky performance.
But the real challenge will be to do it 4 more times.
Benotti69 said:SeriousSam said:Another Tour, another ridiculous Sky performance.
But the real challenge will be to do it 4 more times.
Nope. I guess 5 will be all that is allowed. After that it'll have to be Giros and Vueltas if he wants to continue racing.
Lyon said:Let's not forget that Indurain was at his most dominant they year before his fall. We need a new Riis in the peloton, so that even Sky fans can see professional cycling for what it is.
But that's a new development this year. In his previous to wins he was every bit as ridiculous and obvious as Riis - perhaps even more so. The only differene is Riis churned the big ring up HC climbs, while Froome has a cadence of about 130rpm.the delgados said:Lyon said:Let's not forget that Indurain was at his most dominant they year before his fall. We need a new Riis in the peloton, so that even Sky fans can see professional cycling for what it is.
Froome is the new Riis, but way smarter.
He doesn't make it look so obvious. He attacks on descents and gets into flat-stage breaks but refuses to attack in the mountains, when he could easily drop his competition in a heart-beat.
DFA123 said:But that's a new development this year. In his previous to wins he was every bit as ridiculous and obvious as Riis - perhaps even more so. The only differene is Riis churned the big ring up HC climbs, while Froome has a cadence of about 130rpm.the delgados said:Lyon said:Let's not forget that Indurain was at his most dominant they year before his fall. We need a new Riis in the peloton, so that even Sky fans can see professional cycling for what it is.
Froome is the new Riis, but way smarter.
He doesn't make it look so obvious. He attacks on descents and gets into flat-stage breaks but refuses to attack in the mountains, when he could easily drop his competition in a heart-beat.