Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Benotti69]

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They didn't expect Aru's nuclear attack so they let Landa and Henao rest thinking, quite right, that Thomas can handle Richie, Contador and Quintana. Mont du Chat will be a different ballgame.

I dont think they tried to catch Aru- Froome let him go and the only reason the group caught Froome/Porte group was the slow down as Froome didn't want to tow them to the top.
Aru wont get the leeway to do it again as on that form probably the danger man and called it out on the wrong stage. Contador too old, Quintana not on it at all,Porte and Martin look dangerous but neither of them have form for winning over three weeks....leaves Aru( we wont mention the frenchman-no chance), who announced it too early in the tour. at least that's how I read it.

This could be Dan Martin's year. OPQS are a strong team and might have given Martin that extra 'attention' for a GT.

 

[Robert5091]

Froome was probably wondering where Fugelsang was, as he was the only one who could climb with LRP at the Dauphine.

 

[rick james]

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Just a thought - the skinsuit controversy could be a nice distraction from something more nefarious

4 riders in top-10? Froome 3kph faster than the other GC contenders on the final straight part? Hmm...

So you think Sky themselves created this controversy?

A controversy where L'equipe brands them as cheats and the whole France sees it.
Now, thats a crazy notion. :lol:

You dont think Sky are responsible for their own narrative?

I have not seen the latest Pro cycling team come out with loads of interviews about new team, new ideas, new methods, new policies, which basically says everyone else is doping and we are the squeaky cleanest of the clean oh and we never lie!

Stop drinking the koolaid!!!! :lol:

Sky are cheating, that much is proven. It is USPS all over again, where those in power are protecting the team for as long as is possible. When that no longer becomes possible, they will get thrown under the bus!!!

isn't everyone?

See how easy that was. Yes, everyone is cheating, but that doesn't make it ok and when teams and riders claim they are clean they get shot down for it in the clinic. More than Sky threads in here, have a look

So if Sky didn't shout out loud they are clean you wouldn't have a problem with them?

 

[Benotti69]

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So if Sky didn't shout out loud they are clean you wouldn't have a problem with them?

I have a problem with cheating and that includes doping.

Sky shouted the loudest, so they get the most flak. Not hard to figure. Same as Armstrong when he raced if you are old enough to remember that :lol:

Sky did a lot of PR work to say they were going to be different, clean, no doping, no ex dopers, no doping doctors yada yada...so when they got found out of course they were going to get tons of flak, then to take grupetto fodder and turn them into tour winners adds extra incoming flak.

Sky still doing the PR work

 

[portugal11]

This thread will explode in less than 24 hours... can't wait to see a group of 15 riders with 6 skys...

 

[thehog]

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This thread will explode in less than 24 hours... can't wait to see a group of 15 riders with 6 skys...

Who can forget 2013 when Sky broke the forum on Ax3. Dawg and Porte smashing it beyond limits if all credibility. Forum was down for a few days after that. Maybe a repeat?

 

[Robert5091]

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So if Sky didn't shout out loud they are clean you wouldn't have a problem with them?

I have a problem with cheating and that includes doping.

Sky shouted the loudest, so they get the most flak. Not hard to figure. Same as Armstrong when he raced if you are old enough to remember that :lol:

Sky did a lot of PR work to say they were going to be different, clean, no doping, no ex dopers, no doping doctors yada yada...so when they got found out of course they were going to get tons of flak, then to take grupetto fodder and turn them into tour winners adds extra incoming flak.

Sky still doing the PR work

"Never tested positive"!

 

[Robert5091]

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This thread will explode in less than 24 hours... can't wait to see a group of 15 riders with 6 skys...

With the Dawgs current love of decending as fast as possible, I would not be surprised if he finds out that today's incident was a warning.

 

[Finn84]

I didn't find this article being posted:
http://www.sportschau.de/tourdefrance/tour-de-france-sky-english-version-100~_variant-android.html

 

[portugal11]

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This thread will explode in less than 24 hours... can't wait to see a group of 15 riders with 6 skys...

Who can forget 2013 when Sky broke the forum on Ax3. Dawg and Porte smashing it beyond limits if all credibility. Forum was down for a few days after that. Maybe a repeat?

Not Ax3 because tomorrow's stage doesn't have a MTF... but I expect sky to destroy everyone

 

[Robert5091]

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This thread will explode in less than 24 hours... can't wait to see a group of 15 riders with 6 skys...

With the Dawgs current love of descending as fast as possible, I would not be surprised if he finds out that today's incident was a warning.

Wrong Sky rider but it was a warning!

 

[ontheroad]

I see Sky have cancelled their rest day press conference, first time in known memory that this has happened to the yellow jersey and this can't be good for PR for a team that put such an emphasis on PR.

 

[Benotti69]

Blacklists by TeamSky, straight out of the Bruyneel manual.

Sky are not bothered trying to hide it anymore.

 

[Electress]

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Blacklists by TeamSky, straight out of the Bruyneel manual.

Sky are not bothered trying to hide it anymore.

This. I suspect SDB knows that he won't survive the UKAD and Parliamentary Committee reports (which I believe are due out in autumn?). There's no fig leaf left and he doesn't care anymore. I only hope he doesn't get to walk away without his reputation in utter tatters.

 

[Benotti69]

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Blacklists by TeamSky, straight out of the Bruyneel manual.

Sky are not bothered trying to hide it anymore.

This. I suspect SDB knows that he won't survive the UKAD and Parliamentary Committee reports (which I believe are due out in autumn?). There's no fig leaf left and he doesn't care anymore. I only hope he doesn't get to walk away without his reputation in utter tatters.

His reputation will be in tatters re the British press, but no doubt China, Russia, USA and many others will want his services.

If he got a lifetime ban that would be something. His ego would undoubtly be hurt by that. But Brailsford will probably get some other rich guy backing him soon enough.

You know i think Brailsford saw what JV achieved and took that and tried to copy it without the known dopers(ex USPS) and in year 1 failed. He had a rethink and probably pressurised by Sky to up their game or lose their sponsors he then chose to do a USPS but with the extra JV way of pushing the message up front into peoples faces and talk up the clean thing so loud it drowns out the rest and creates a smoke screen and you know it worked for a while especially after Armstrong fell on his own sword (unintentionally) it paved the road for the sport to point at 'bad Armstrong', 'good rest of sport'. But people are not so gullible anymore those that dont wear the blinkers of nationalism and in the UK there are plenty of gullible people also plenty new to the sport.

But alas as in the Wizard of Oz, the curtain has been pulled back and Sky are the fraud most experienced fans knew them to be.

 

[ontheroad]

It was spoken of before the tour had even started that Sky people were very concerned about having to sit in front of journalists from continental Europe and field questions. I think this non appearance at today's press conference will have been decided in advance given the shenanigan's of the last 12 months. It's one thing to answer mundane questions from UK journalists and media a lot of who cosy up to sky, but I think they realise that the line of questioning from non UK journlaists would be a lot tougher. They probably decided it was best to sit it out which mightn't exactly endear themselves to the media but might be the lesser of 2 evils. Two choices, attend and get ripped apart with tough questioning or don't attend and get accused of being cowardly and of going into hiding. Probably a lose lose situation for Team sky.

 

[Benotti69]

No doubt the sycophant hacks have been invited to the hotel for interviews, just like Bruyneel did.

 

[Brullnux]

Bloody hell Kwiatkowski

 

[JosephK]

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Bloody hell Kwiatkowski

The nightmare continues. Sky train sucking the life out of the TDF.

 

[deeno1975]

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Bloody hell Kwiatkowski

The nightmare continues. Sky train sucking the life out of the TDF.

The Bore De France continues....

 

[deeno1975]

Can't understand how they can take musette bags on the the final climb... complete farce

 

[No_Balls]

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Sky looking every bit as Skyesque as ever but something is wrong with the picture. Froome doesnt drop everybody in seated sprints and have forgotten he isnt riding for Barloworld.

Would love to be a fly on the wall here.

 

[sniper]

In fairness, it wouldn't have made any kind of sense for ASO, UCI or Sky, to just let Froome ride off into the sunset for his 4th TdF win.
Stands to reason that they put their heads together pre-TdF and decided this year needs to be a bit more entertaining.

In Paris Froome can look all exhausted and claim this was his most hard-fought victory of the four.

 

[ScienceIsCool]

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In fairness, it wouldn't have made any kind of sense for ASO, UCI or Sky, to just let Froome ride off into the sunset for his 4th TdF win.
Stands to reason that they put their heads together pre-TdF and decided this year needs to be a bit more entertaining.

In Paris Froome can look all exhausted and claim this was his most hard-fought victory of the four.

Uhhh. Are you saying that Sky, the UCI, a couple other team managers got together over a few snifter of Brandy some time in May and Brailsford said "You know what, chums? Let's make this one sporting". Cookson replies with a "Capital idea! We've gone over the script for the first week, so here's what we'll do. Stage 11. Important that. Remember it. Stage 11, Froome slips a gear and gives way to Aru by a few seconds on the last pitch".

Brilliant plan. Bravo...

As with anything in life, there are too many angles, scenarios,and interests involved. Froome puking up a ridiculous loss in the last few meters is effing weird. But there's no data to get us to a coherent analysis. It's just bizarre and I'm sure we can live with that.

John Swanson

 

[Cycle Chic]

looks like his motor / battery malfunctioned. Although Landa is getting it in the neck for attacking his leader.