Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[MartinGT]

Wigan is trolling us. He's setting up a Tour de Force. Basically go out and stay with them in France and ride with em. Will cost a shed load but he can sit and bathe in the dribble of the sychophants. Who can blame him when he's brassic?

The troll part? It's set up by a company called pollen hahaha class.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Certainly all that training remotely in Colombia and avoiding racedays is paying off

 

[MikeS369]

Certainly all that training remotely in Colombia and avoiding racedays is paying off

Seems to be the new "marginal gains".

 

[Parker]

Certainly all that training remotely in Colombia and avoiding racedays is paying off

Colombia is not remote for Colombians

 

[pastronef]

Colombia is not remote for Colombians

92 minutes of clapping
thank you

 

[SHAD0W93]

Colombia is not remote for Colombians

Except he didn’t mean Colombia is a remote place to train in.

 

[pastronef]

Except he didn’t mean Colombia is a remote place to train in.

not even a remote place to LIVE in, since his home and family are there.

he was at his fhuking HOME.

 

[MartinGT]

Calm down calm down hey hey calm down

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Home is where the Edgar is

 

[SHAD0W93]

not even a remote place to LIVE in, since his home and family are there.

he was at his fhuking HOME.

He meant remote as in not riding with his team or in Europe not he was camping in the middle of nowhere with just his bike.

 

[pastronef]

ok, far from Europe. sure it´s far from here. from those on here that are in Europe. remote from here. because it´s far. but he didnt travel in a remote place for him. he travelled HOME. it´s very subjective I know.
"look at Bernal, training far from Europe and his team"
"well, you know, he is at his home, that happens to be in Colombia. and yes, there´s an ocean between here and there. I hope he´s not very jet-lagged when he flies here from his home"

ps. his ADAMs must be updated as he, and the other riders, must do it in advance.

 

[MikeS369]

Out of competition testing is a joke right now. You can even skip out on those test. 3 strike rule, pfft. Look at the British woman that skipped out on 3 tests and was not sanctioned.

 

[yaco]

Out of competition testing is a joke right now. You can even skip out on those test. 3 strike rule, pfft. Look at the British woman that skipped out on 3 tests and was not sanctioned.

Maybe you check the figures for OOC testing before making sweeping statements.

 

[pastronef]

if they race they go too fast, dopers! if they don´t race they hide. dopers! it´s useless to argue with some ppl on here. it´s not Bernal´s fault if he plays by the rules and you don´t like the rules. "OOC testing does not work" well, blame Wada and Uci, instead of gratuitously point the finger at Bernal and his "remote" training place that happens to be his home.

 

[42x16ss]

Agree that it's not good to slam Bernal for going home, but facts are facts - Colombia is a full blown doping hotbed.

Meanwhile, the "our riders know the route better than anyone" myth can be put to bed: https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-leader-bernal-takes-old-school-view-of-fast-looming-zoncolan

 

[MikeS369]

Maybe you check the figures for OOC testing before making sweeping statements.

OOC testing is a joke. Skip test to your hearts content. What's going to happen? The violators will walk with some bogus excuse. Talk to Armistead, Longo, Froome, Cavendish or Farah (who incidentally won 2 gold medals in London 2012 after his misses). They will tell you how to get away with skipping tests. Those are the ones we know about since the data is not made public.

Are you privy to the 2020 and 2021 numbers? They are not posted on WADA's website. We know very well OOC testing was way down in 2020. Reported to be down about 90%.

"The CADF 2019 business report, which was published on Friday, revealed that 7,629 out-of-competition tests were carried out on behalf of the body in 2019. In-competition testing brought the overall total of samples collected to 14,333

6,721 out-of-competition tests were carried out on professional male riders (3,297 urine tests, 3,251 biological passport tests and 173 other blood tests). The CADF carried out a further 3,222 in-competition tests on male professional riders, for an overall total of 9,943 tests.

The CADF noted that it had collected a total of 2,200 samples in 2020 before the coronavirus pandemic interrupted the season, including 1,250 out-of-competition controls."

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cadf-confirms-90-drop-in-out-of-competition-testing-during-coronavirus-lockdown/

I would expect they are testing more this year. That doesn't change the fact that you can skip out on test with zero penalty.

 

[yaco]

OOC testing is a joke. Skip test to your hearts content. What's going to happen? The violators will walk with some bogus excuse. Talk to Armistead, Longo, Froome, Cavendish or Farah (who incidentally won 2 gold medals in London 2012 after his misses). They will tell you how to get away with skipping tests. Those are the ones we know about since the data is not made public.

Are you privy to the 2020 and 2021 numbers? They are not posted on WADA's website. We know very well OOC testing was way down in 2020. Reported to be down about 90%.

"The CADF 2019 business report, which was published on Friday, revealed that 7,629 out-of-competition tests were carried out on behalf of the body in 2019. In-competition testing brought the overall total of samples collected to 14,333

6,721 out-of-competition tests were carried out on professional male riders (3,297 urine tests, 3,251 biological passport tests and 173 other blood tests). The CADF carried out a further 3,222 in-competition tests on male professional riders, for an overall total of 9,943 tests.

The CADF noted that it had collected a total of 2,200 samples in 2020 before the coronavirus pandemic interrupted the season, including 1,250 out-of-competition controls."

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cadf-confirms-90-drop-in-out-of-competition-testing-during-coronavirus-lockdown/

I would expect they are testing more this year. That doesn't change the fact that you can skip out on test with zero penalty.

You've changed your narrative from a lack of OOC tests to skipping OOC tests without penalty Of course OOC tests were down for around 6 months of 2020 because we are in the middle of a pandemic - It's not just the CADF who conducts tests on cyclists - There are a range of bodies that also conduct doping tests like NADO's.

 

[MartinGT]

Dodgy bag for Berny on rest day. Legs like jellly on that final climb today.

 

[PhiLiz]

A word for Castroviejo dropping half of the top10...

 

[pastronef]

learned that at Movistar. check Pyrenees in 2013 or Covadonga 2016

 

[MartinGT]

Martinez been on the Rogers juice.

 

[MartinGT]

This is a laugh and a half. Dropped several times on the descent burning matches to catch up. Then bang motor is put on and drops Yates and Almedia like they're Cat 3s

 

[Pirazziattacks]

This is a laugh and a half. Dropped several times on the descent burning matches to catch up. Then bang motor is put on and drops Yates and Almedia like they're Cat 3s

Not to mention the fact that he kept fighting though to the finish line after pulling off the front. That came after closing a big gap on the descent at least partly on his own and repeatedly closing more small gaps to stay with Bernal once he got back on as well.

 

[PhiLiz]

Martinez only dropped for optics. He could've easily have followed Bernal. The freak show goes on.

INB4 hE hAs aLwAyS bEEn a gOOd cLImBeR.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

INEOS back to their thermonuclear level. Martinez just ridiculous.

Lets watch LRP, geraint and TGH in dauphine