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ok, far from Europe. sure it´s far from here. from those on here that are in Europe. remote from here. because it´s far. but he didnt travel in a remote place for him. he travelled HOME. it´s very subjective I know.
"look at Bernal, training far from Europe and his team"
"well, you know, he is at his home, that happens to be in Colombia. and yes, there´s an ocean between here and there. I hope he´s not very jet-lagged when he flies here from his home"

ps. his ADAMs must be updated as he, and the other riders, must do it in advance.
 
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if they race they go too fast, dopers! if they don´t race they hide. dopers! it´s useless to argue with some ppl on here. it´s not Bernal´s fault if he plays by the rules and you don´t like the rules. "OOC testing does not work" well, blame Wada and Uci, instead of gratuitously point the finger at Bernal and his "remote" training place that happens to be his home.
 
Maybe you check the figures for OOC testing before making sweeping statements.

OOC testing is a joke. Skip test to your hearts content. What's going to happen? The violators will walk with some bogus excuse. Talk to Armistead, Longo, Froome, Cavendish or Farah (who incidentally won 2 gold medals in London 2012 after his misses). They will tell you how to get away with skipping tests. Those are the ones we know about since the data is not made public.

Are you privy to the 2020 and 2021 numbers? They are not posted on WADA's website. We know very well OOC testing was way down in 2020. Reported to be down about 90%.

"The CADF 2019 business report, which was published on Friday, revealed that 7,629 out-of-competition tests were carried out on behalf of the body in 2019. In-competition testing brought the overall total of samples collected to 14,333

6,721 out-of-competition tests were carried out on professional male riders (3,297 urine tests, 3,251 biological passport tests and 173 other blood tests). The CADF carried out a further 3,222 in-competition tests on male professional riders, for an overall total of 9,943 tests.

The CADF noted that it had collected a total of 2,200 samples in 2020 before the coronavirus pandemic interrupted the season, including 1,250 out-of-competition controls."

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ca...petition-testing-during-coronavirus-lockdown/

I would expect they are testing more this year. That doesn't change the fact that you can skip out on test with zero penalty.
 
OOC testing is a joke. Skip test to your hearts content. What's going to happen? The violators will walk with some bogus excuse. Talk to Armistead, Longo, Froome, Cavendish or Farah (who incidentally won 2 gold medals in London 2012 after his misses). They will tell you how to get away with skipping tests. Those are the ones we know about since the data is not made public.

Are you privy to the 2020 and 2021 numbers? They are not posted on WADA's website. We know very well OOC testing was way down in 2020. Reported to be down about 90%.

"The CADF 2019 business report, which was published on Friday, revealed that 7,629 out-of-competition tests were carried out on behalf of the body in 2019. In-competition testing brought the overall total of samples collected to 14,333

6,721 out-of-competition tests were carried out on professional male riders (3,297 urine tests, 3,251 biological passport tests and 173 other blood tests). The CADF carried out a further 3,222 in-competition tests on male professional riders, for an overall total of 9,943 tests.

The CADF noted that it had collected a total of 2,200 samples in 2020 before the coronavirus pandemic interrupted the season, including 1,250 out-of-competition controls."

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ca...petition-testing-during-coronavirus-lockdown/

I would expect they are testing more this year. That doesn't change the fact that you can skip out on test with zero penalty.

You've changed your narrative from a lack of OOC tests to skipping OOC tests without penalty Of course OOC tests were down for around 6 months of 2020 because we are in the middle of a pandemic - It's not just the CADF who conducts tests on cyclists - There are a range of bodies that also conduct doping tests like NADO's.
 
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This is a laugh and a half. Dropped several times on the descent burning matches to catch up. Then bang motor is put on and drops Yates and Almedia like they're Cat 3s
Not to mention the fact that he kept fighting though to the finish line after pulling off the front. That came after closing a big gap on the descent at least partly on his own and repeatedly closing more small gaps to stay with Bernal once he got back on as well.
 
While I don’t deny that Bernal is a very talented cyclist, I just can’t take anyone from Ineos seriously, not with so many suspicious (sometimes very obviously dirty) performances since they burst on to the scene a decade ago. I don’t find them any less suspicious or downright dirty like any of the strong teams of yesteryear like US Postal, Telekom, Festina, Kelme, Once, Fassa Bortolo, Rabobank, etc.
 
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