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Choosing the right moment for a story to drop it part of journalism. I think that alone should not make one suspicious. We'll see what he has to say. I always thought that their thing was to microdose etc. riders just so that they stay within the passport norms and within what was officially deemed naturally possible back than. But that's really just a guess.
 
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It's also a tried-and-tested way to get clicks even if you don't have a story. Still, let's wait and see, I'm definitely curious.

Yes sure might be nothing, but that's always possible. My point was that choosing the proper timing for your article doesn't make the article suspicious, it's content does or doesn't.
But it's definitely the case that he now has to deliver or he'll look like an idiot, which gives me hope it will in the least be entertaining to watch unfold.
 
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It's also a tried-and-tested way to get clicks even if you don't have a story. Still, let's wait and see, I'm definitely curious.

Im curious, but I fear nothing but a rehash of lots of the stuff already known about, jiffy bags, couriers from BC, the BC/Sky setup, stuff ordered by the Doc who lost his laptop, just simply coming from a few different sources, which wont take anyone further forward.
 
We don't know what Wiggins knows and his mental state, but going from what Lance did for Ullrich and Ullrich's subsequent confession etc, Wiggins could help himself and the people around him (family) by some opening up -
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/yes-i-doped-jan-ullrich-makes-full-doping-confession/
Early this week Ullrich explained that he refused to confess to doping despite the growing evidence because he didn’t want to “drag a lot of people down with me into the abyss.”

Looking fatigued after making a complete confession to different German media on Wednesday evening, Ullrich now regrets not confessing sooner.

"If I had told my story, I would have had many wonderful years. But I didn't have the courage. Now it feels good to admit my guilt," he told the dpa news agency and other German media.
 
Wiggins is an obvious one to start talking because of his financial state.

There again, he still comes across as 'one of the lads' & I don't think he'd throw Cavendish & co under a bus.

Because that's what we're talking about here, i.e. an entire operation with all its riders & personnel from beginning to end associated in some form or another to a doping program.

If one domino falls (especially a big one), then the rest follow.
 
Wiggins is an obvious one to start talking because of his financial state.

There again, he still comes across as 'one of the lads' & I don't think he'd throw Cavendish & co under a bus.

Because that's what we're talking about here, i.e. an entire operation with all its riders & personnel from beginning to end associated in some form or another to a doping program.

If one domino falls (especially a big one), then the rest follow.
If he is desperate... who knows.

He got nothing to lose anymore.

Some people around him maybe should have stepped in sooner to help, they might have who knows, at least be able to foresee that this could happen when they were in on it together and he knows a lot of stuff.

It is risky.
 
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If he is desperate... who knows.

He got nothing to lose anymore.

Some people around him maybe should have stepped in sooner to help, they might have who knows, at least be able to foresee that this could happen when they were in on it together and he knows a lot of stuff.

It is risky.
Nothing to lose and who was the one picking him up; Armstrong. Also there's a lot of alcohol which makes you talk more. So there's definitely incentives.
 
If he is desperate... who knows.

He got nothing to lose anymore.

Some people around him maybe should have stepped in sooner to help, they might have who knows, at least be able to foresee that this could happen when they were in on it together and he knows a lot of stuff.

It is risky.
Also this is cycling. This is how I see some of the guys I love watching today end up. The signs already there; addiction to winning is an addiction and when winning is gone there needs to be something to hold on to and hence; drugs, gambling, groupies etc gonna easily follow.

It's just brain chemistry. 🧠 Years of evolution and people are still animals.
 
Also this is cycling. This is how I see some of the guys I love watching today end up. The signs already there; addiction to winning is an addiction and when winning is gone there needs to be something to hold on to and hence; drugs, gambling, groupies etc gonna easily follow.

It's just brain chemistry. 🧠 Years of evolution and people are still animals.
But then the people who was in charge should have done a better job at protecting him or made sure Wiggins never found himself in this situation years later, if anything just to protect themselves or that he was silenced one way or another.

Like this sort of stuff can go left, with the potential damage it can make.
 
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But then the people who was in charge should have done a better job at protecting him or made sure Wiggins never found himself in this situation years later, if anything just to protect themselves or that he was silenced one way or another.

Like this sort of stuff can go left, with the potential damage it can make.
Indeed. Ironically the responsible were likely themselves the same kind of people. And so it all continues.

Either addiction to drugs or you become a DS or Eurosport commentator etc. Oftentimes they all go together. 🤣😬

Humans are surprisingly short sighted and literally don't know what they want. Since the reward system is all about anticipation. 🧠 Hence we strive. Whether it's after a bottle, a win, or a promotion.
 
So the interesting part must be paid for (which is fair I guess, guy's gotta live), did anyone read it or read about what's in it?
I think it will continue tomorrow. I've tried to subscribe but no confirmation that my paid subscription we through.

I live for this sort of light no one murdered true crime. I don't like seeing people taken down though. Just the solving the mysteries.
 
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I think it will continue tomorrow. I've tried to subscribe but no confirmation that my paid subscription we through.

Sucks.

I live for this sort of light no one murdered true crime. I don't like seeing people taken down though. Just the solving the mysteries.

I'm probably not half as exited as you are, but I am very much looking forward to finding out what's going on here. Even though there's still the chance it's not that new of a thing.
 
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great mind think alike! Of course Lance is involved! (edit: fixed spelling)

Imagine a world in which Lance Armstrong personally pays off Wiggins' debt in return for Wiggins confessing everything, i.e. in doing so proving to the world that Armstrong & Bruyneel were just doing what everyone else did & that all the winners who came after the Armstrong years are huge liars & hypocrites.

That would be a fun timeline.
 

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