Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Benotti69]

Maybe. He is how you describe him for sure. Can be a loose cannon. But I am thinking that if anyone floyds on Sky it would be someone who feels he has really been wronged by them.
Cav is gone and he will just keep on winning because of his talent. Porte, I don't know enough about to pick him either.
So who on Sky could leave team and have a scenario that played out like the Lance affair. Probably no one that I can think of.
I actually think that there will develop some really bad internal conflicts and somebody might say the wrong thing, someone get busted, Maybe Richie there. Who knows.

It might be Froome depending on his 2013 season and if he wins something big but gets busted and loses it.

 

[veganrob]

It might be Froome depending on his 2013 season and if he wins something bug but gets busted and looses it.

Yeah I thought of him, and he is so dirty, so the right scenario would have to come up. It just may

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Frodo is omerta through and through. He knows he is nothing without the drugs and Uncles Erik, Brian and Rolf, will have sat the Hobbit down and explained this very carefully to him. (No doubt with pictures to help the Manx knuckledragger out).

It'll be someone who expected to be better rewarded than they were.

 

[The Hitch]

no one is gonna floyd on sky since their whole point is learning from lances mistakes.

 

[Joachim]

Funny you should mention the Hobbit in your post.

Very apposite.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

no one is gonna floyd on sky since their whole point is learning from lances mistakes.

You mean by not drawing attention to themselves by working with dodgy doctors or riding like they are on motorbikes?

They're not doing a very good job so far.

They only thing they seem to have learnt is that threatening to sue people is counter-productive. The way to make a problem go away is to promise and investigation and then sack people when attention is looking elsewhere.

 

[martinvickers]

I have doubts. I also have knowledge.
Sky being meshed with BC causes me concern.

Concern for Sky, or concern for BC?

 

[martinvickers]

I think if anyone will Floyd them it'll be Cavendish. Short temper, bailed on the team, not all that fond of Wiggins and a he's got a mightily big mouth.

You're barking up the wrong tree there; Cavendish and Wiggins are in fact very, very close. Cav got ****ed at Wiggins for messing up the '08 madison, but they are long since back to buddies...

 

[Caruut]

Frodo is omerta through and through. He knows he is nothing without the drugs and Uncles Erik, Brian and Rolf, will have sat the Hobbit down and explained this very carefully to him. (No doubt with pictures to help the Manx knuckledragger out).

It'll be someone who expected to be better rewarded than they were.

Like the Frodo analogy; Bernie Eisel as Samwise Gamgee, no doubt. Still think that no matter how much training you give Cavendish in media matters and keeping your cool, it is still putting lipstick on a pig. Sure he holds his tongue 99% of the time, but I think history shows that Cavendish's mouth has a mind of its own. He simply cannot help saying stupid things once in a while.

I do like Cav though, so perhaps I am only hoping it will be him. Porte certainly doesn't have a contract which has reflected his performances at Sky which makes him a strong candidate.

You're barking up the wrong tree there]

I was under the impression that was more a media front than anything else, Now you question me on it, however, I realise I have no proof this being the case, nor do I remember why I thought that in the first place.

 

[thehog]

You're barking up the wrong tree there; Cavendish and Wiggins are in fact very, very close. Cav got ****ed at Wiggins for messing up the '08 madison, but they are long since back to buddies...

That's Martin. Keep us posted of any changes in the relationship.

Now for more facts I'll go read my Horoscope.

 

[Tinman]

Have been absent and not kept up with the thread for a while so apologies if reported/discussed before. But presumably big news now that Leinders formally named for systematic team provided doping to individual riders at Rabo...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nelissen-confesses-to-doping-at-rabobank

 

[blackcat]

why does any of this matter, the individuals concerned are just flies to be swatted.

everyone has eyes, and knows the history of the sport.

Just call Brailsford and Wiggins, on the hypocrisy on Armstrong and a willingness to accept the mantle and glow riding. or ride glowing.

Its not the individuals, but time is right to call them out. And then ask what does this offer. sport or entertainment. winning and nationalism. politics and myths.

 

[Tinman]

why does any of this matter, the individuals concerned are just flies to be swatted.

everyone has eyes, and knows the history of the sport.

Just call Brailsford and Wiggins, on the hypocrisy on Armstrong and a willingness to accept the mantle and glow riding. or ride glowing.

Its not the individuals, but time is right to call them out. And then ask what does this offer. sport or entertainment. winning and nationalism. politics and myths.

And time for anyone who calls themselves a serious cycling journo to broadcast the serious questions that now do need to be aired publicly about team Sky. Particularly the British sports media. Tear the house down. Olympics, Sir Wiggo and Sir David a long time ago now. Total farce, and will reflect nastily on the media conspirators soon too.

 

[ebandit]

thanks! hoggie

Now for more facts I'll go read my Horoscope.

thanks! hoggie now i know where you get your gems of inspiration

clinic rumour is that sutton moving duties was because of strong links to

leinders ( alleged systematic doping at team sky )

but was sutton not taking on 'lighter duties' following his serious accident?

 

[thehog]

Big trouble in little Belguim.

Leinders under investigation.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wielersport/21235932/___Onderzoek_naar_Leinders___.html

 

[sniper]

Big trouble in little Belguim.

Leinders under investigation.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wielersport/21235932/___Onderzoek_naar_Leinders___.html

boy o boy.

good thing Sky got rid of him before he could do any damage to the clean guys.

 

[thehog]

boy o boy.

good thing Sky got rid of him before he could do any damage to the clean guys.

Zero tolerance. They had no idea he was a doping Doctor. He was there to treat saddle sores. That's why we saw so much of him at Sky. The were very proud of him.

Just imagine if those clean riders leant about doping when Lienders was there!

Swift work by Johan Brailsford to move him on to protect the clean riders.

 

[hrotha]

Zero tolerance. They had no idea he was a doping Doctor. He was there to treat saddle sores. That's why we saw so much of him at Sky. The were very proud of him.

Just imagine if those clean riders leant about doping when Lienders was there!

Swift work by Johan Brailsford to move him on to protect the clean riders.

Don't you understand? People were DYING. Only a doctor with past experience in cycling could deal with heat issues that apparently had nothing to do with cycling.

 

[sniper]

Seriously, though, this must mean alarm code red at Camp Sky.

Will he squeel? Will he not squeel?

Both the Spanish feds (Puerto) and the American feds (Lance) have been sensitive to political pressure. Let's see how tough the Belgians are.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Seriously, though, this must mean alarm code red at Camp Sky.

Will he squeel? Will he not squeel?

Both the Spanish feds (Puerto) and the American feds (Lance) have been sensitive to political pressure. Let's see how tough the Belgians are.

The Belgians have two major cases: Leinders and Hog. Is this their Festina moment - something that the bigwigs in Belgian cycling have long resisted.

 

[workingclasshero]

effing loving this. Watch that knighthood mysteriously disappear

 

[thehog]

effing loving this. Watch that knighthood mysteriously disappear

Give it to the Kenyan!

 

[workingclasshero]

Give it to the Kenyan!

give it to me

100 % clean

 

[pmcg76]

You guys are being over-optimistic.

If Leinders says anything, he will say that yes, he was involved in doping at Rabobank due to the era but when the management team changed, he was forced to clean up his act and has been dope free ever since.

Will we take odds on what he reveals??/

 

[Mellow Velo]

Seriously, though, this must mean alarm code red at Camp Sky.

Will he squeel? Will he not squeel?

Both the Spanish feds (Puerto) and the American feds (Lance) have been sensitive to political pressure. Let's see how tough the Belgians are.

Should certainly clear things up one way or another.
If he practised his dark arts with Sky, it will eventually come out.
If he didn't, then I guess it's back to the drawing board.