Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[thehog]

As I recall when Froome voomed onto the scene last year the response of most people was

'Wasn't he the guy who fell down the side of that mountain?'.

No, that was John-Lee Augustyn.

Just out of interest what would we say was Froome best pre-2011 Vuelta result?

5th in the Commonwealth games ITT - where he came in 2 and a half minutes down on Rev Millar?

Or perhaps his win in the 'Atomic jock race'? or his domination in the Tour of Mauritius?

Even Froome in a quiet moment must shake his head and think "what the hell am I doing?!!!"

Off season he needs to work on his acting. Learn to look tired. Play act his fatigue a little more.

Anyway; clinic challenge: find Froome footage pre-Vuelta 2011!

 

[JimmyFingers]

Reverend Hoggo, can you tell me what 'carted off like Polish' means?

 

[palmerq]

jiminy christmas :S you guys dont stop :S......... enough of this stupid personal arguments or I shall start banning people and leave the bad taste jokes about people crashing out of this too...

deleted some posts btw

 

[JimmyFingers]

Chapeau, no sarcasm present

 

[DirtyWorks]

G Thomas and P Kennaugh will be getting antsy in their boots like Floyd knew was his place at postal. Gonna get ****ed at Wiggo and Froomie for taking all the chocolates

And there you have Sky scandal 2012. The UCI has to keep the Sky A-Team fully employed to keep them quiet. Interesting times ahead!

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

And there you have Sky scandal 2012.

Except I think it's going to take a couple of years yet before the rumors are wild. Then a few more years after that before it shows up in the media. Pat and Hein will do another Landis assault and put it off for a little while.

AND THEN, it will blow wide open.

It's when not if with Sky

 

[Galic Ho]

Sutton crashed as well now. WTF is going on?

Lance cursed them. Go figure.

 

[thehog]

As I recall when Froome voomed onto the scene last year the response of most people was

'Wasn't he the guy who fell down the side of that mountain?'.

No, that was John-Lee Augustyn.

Just out of interest what would we say was Froome best pre-2011 Vuelta result?

5th in the Commonwealth games ITT - where he came in 2 and a half minutes down on Rev Millar?

Or perhaps his win in the 'Atomic jock race'? or his domination in the Tour of Mauritius?

So coming back to Froome.

After his disastrous Romandie Froome went to Tiede in Tenerife.

And the following occurred.

He writes the following in his diary:

I wasn’t quite sure what to expect, being told that we were going to be staying close to the summit of a volcano for two weeks but it definitely wasn’t what I had imagined.

The road from Teide North airport to our hotel at 2200m was like none other I had seen before. Kilometer after kilometer of twisty uphill, the road snaked up into the clouds taking us to what I would imagine travelling to Mars would be like. Black volcanic rock and undulating heaps of sand and shrubs surrounded us. There were very few signs of human life at all, except for the Parador Hotel, that became our sanctuary after each day of training.

The camp didn’t start off too well for me after puncturing my front wheel at high speed around a bend, on our way down the mountain one morning. I was grateful not to have been injured more seriously but I still left a long trail of skin on the tarmac resulting in a bit of road rash. Never much fun to have at the best of times!

Training on the island was tough. It was either up or down and the only way to get home every day was (you guessed it!) up. The crash took a lot out of me and I didn’t feel too great on the bike to say the least. Only in the last few days of the camp did I feel like I was able to complete the planned workouts.

I have come home feeling like I’ve just come off a boot camp. It’s definitely easier to breathe down here after all that thin mountain air. No doubt about it, that was great preparation for the next block of racing, but for now I’ll be letting my body soak up all the climbing meters and giving the road rash a chance to heal up before the Dauphine (3rd-10th of June).

So after a woeful Romandie he then crashes in Tenerife and comes into form at the Tour better than any other cyclist?

Connect the dots on that one!

 

[Grandillusion]

G Thomas and P Kennaugh will be getting antsy in their boots like Floyd knew was his place at postal. Gonna get ****ed at Wiggo and Froomie for taking all the chocolates

I'm dying to know what this cryptic (to me) post means. Dirty Works understands. Is it so obvious that they're doped, but you both don't want to be overt about saying it, 'cos your real ire is not for the cyclists (who you see as almost victims), but the horrible corrupt swines at the top who are tacitly accepting and even enabling the doping?

 

[clipperton]

So what caused the Wiggins crash? To me the possibilities are,

1. He was busy smoking a spliff of EPO rather than concentrating on the road.
2. All a publicity stunt to boost sales of the book.
3. He was worried about visits by random testers and he thought they were less likely to bother him if he was in hospital.
4. He lacks a basic knowledge of geography (seen by the fact that he has lied repeatedly about where he lived as a child) and thought he was on a cycle path so didn't look out for traffic.
5. Some **** wasn't looking where he going when he exited the petrol station.

Of course, anyone suggesting number 5 is a 'fanboy'.

with geert leinders gone, wiggins had to resort to self-administered "treatments", and tragically misinterpreted what it meant when the good doctor had said he was gonna "give [him] a hit of aicar".



i'l get my coat.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

with geert leinders gone, wiggins had to resort to self-administered "treatments", and tragically misinterpreted what it meant when the good doctor had said he was gonna "give [him] a hit of aicar".

i'l get my coat.

Genius.

 

[sittingbison]

... if you removed all the irrelevant posts you would halve it over-night. remove the endless repetitions of certain points and you'll halve it again. This thread is not challenging, or incisive, it is bloated and meandering.

Jimmy, half the bloat and meander is cause by having to explain the same info to newcomers who leap in saying uninformed drivel and not reading the thread.

Example the discussion on weight loss and power gain, which has been done about four times

 

[Grandillusion]

Jimmy, half the bloat and meander is cause by having to explain the same info to newcomers who leap in saying uninformed drivel and not reading the thread.

Example the discussion on weight loss and power gain, which has been done about four times

Bison, I presume that's directed at me via Jimmy. I'm reading everything, sorry if I can't get up to speed quickly enough (it'll take years, I know).

 

[Tinman]

Wiggins really is an idiot

https://twitter.com/boomerado/status/266556526737629184/photo/1

Sir no longer.

 

[sittingbison]

Bison, I presume that's directed at me via Jimmy. I'm reading everything, sorry if I can't get up to speed quickly enough (it'll take years, I know).

not at all GI, its common and not usually a problem, because usually the arguments get more refined. This is a ginormous thread, nobody can read it all the way through, most have been involved from start. Usually when someone leaps in, they get pointed to a previous discussion by someone in the know, but not always thus arguments sometimes get rehashed several times

 

[Grandillusion]

not at all GI, its common and not usually a problem, because usually the arguments get more refined. This is a ginormous thread, nobody can read it all the way through, most have been involved from start. Usually when someone leaps in, they get pointed to a previous discussion by someone in the know, but not always thus arguments sometimes get rehashed several times

Thanks, I'm a bit paranoid as I really am ignorant and feel very self-conscious after every post. It's absolutely fascinating reading, but I suppose I'm not going to get any easy answers. The quality of some of the stuff posted in the forum is really great. Cheers for replying

 

[thehog]

Bison, I presume that's directed at me via Jimmy. I'm reading everything, sorry if I can't get up to speed quickly enough (it'll take years, I know).

But there's no proof. Anyone can get 10 guys to say I don't like you. That's no proof. At the end of the day you need hard solid evidence and simply there is none.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Jimmy, half the bloat and meander is cause by having to explain the same info to newcomers who leap in saying uninformed drivel and not reading the thread.

Example the discussion on weight loss and power gain, which has been done about four times

A fair point. Perhaps we can some sort of pop up for people with a low post count

 

[coinneach]

Sir no longer.

He'll be quite happy with that: didn't fancy having to live up to expectations, so got his retaliation in first

 

[Cycle Chic]

Hey Jimmy Fingers - did you tell him to give THE FINGER ??

 

[Dazed and Confused]

In the lands of the squeaky clean teams, a boilerplate press release with the words "mistake", "apologize" and "family" repeated a minimum of 4 times is required to get Wiggins back on track.

 

[blackcat]

I'm dying to know what this cryptic (to me) post means. Dirty Works understands. Is it so obvious that they're doped, but you both don't want to be overt about saying it, 'cos your real ire is not for the cyclists (who you see as almost victims), but the horrible corrupt swines at the top who are tacitly accepting and even enabling the doping?

they have ambitions on winning too. Winning the Tour. If Wiggins, then Froome win, and in the mode of a 2000's (first decade) USPS, then they know the sport will not put up with Sky, or whatever sponsor iteration Brailsford is managing, they will not accept them winning with all 4.

G Thomas know his numbers on the track were superior to Wiggins. G wants his slice now. please.

And Brailsford had planned on P Kennaugh four years back, even tho he knew at that time, Froome had very impressive numbers.

 

[andy1234]

As for almost getting hit. If you ride in a country like Britain at this time of year after 5pm, well you're asking for trouble. Wiggins can train morning and midday and rest in the evening. He has no excuse. Or he can go to Spain. It's dark in Australia in Winter as well at 5-6pm. No visibility. You're asking for trouble. And Australian drivers hate bike riders. Hate them. We don't have the luxury of respect in that regard between cyclists and motorists. They hate one another for the most part. Generalisation yes, but they hate one another.

So when I read he was hit late in the day when I can only imagine the sky is black and dark, well I think that person is an idiot. I don't care whether his name is Bradley Wiggins. You're an idiot whom ever you are. He can train earlier or he can use his vast newly acquired financial wealth to move somewhere where it rains less and the sun shines at 6pm. You know, like Australia or New Zealand. Or Spain. Somewhere closer to the equator or where the summer and not winter solstice is approaching.

The sheer f**king idiocy of your statement is mind boggling.

 

[Grandillusion]

But there's no proof. Anyone can get 10 guys to say I don't like you. That's no proof. At the end of the day you need hard solid evidence and simply there is none.

Pity there's not a British (and Spanish, Italian etc.) equivalent of Travis Tygart to extract convincing witness testimonies under oath with threat of severe penalty for perjury. How come the yanks are the only ones able to sort that out? That's a rhetorical question, you don't have to answer, I'm sure someone's already asked it & it's been covered.

 

[Grandillusion]

Thanks for the translation Blackcat.