Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Pentacycle]

the rabo tt3 and pt team have nothing to do with each other. also not the same directors

He was part of the tt1 team earlier in his career, he rode Paris-Roubaix with them. There's no way he could've done that with the continental team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Very true.

replying to your own posts... you are like lance except without the money and everything else, you might have one extra ball on him, but that's it

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Oh, brother. Nibali was twenty-five years old in 2009. He was not a team leader. In 2012 he was twenty-eight, an age where he should be at his peak. He has developed as expected, and won the Vuelta when he was twenty-six. Wiggins went through that age period and we saw nothing.

we saw nothing at that age period? wiggins tore up everything he did on the track.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

A quick straw poll:

Is there anyone posting here who has an above 50% confidence that Sky and particularly the Tenerife gang are clean?

I'm 99% sure they are clean.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Your knowledge of cycling really is embarrassing. Dr Ibarguren will ensure Cavendish has a great season. He worked wonders on Gilbert at Lotto then last year for Boonen at OPQS and now Cav should win a monument or 2.

so he's a doctor who just helps one rider at a team? seems kind of a bad doctor

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I do have more than 50% confidence that Froome is clean.
Though I would not want to say how much over that number exactly

As Libertine has said Froome's rise is unnatural. But it is not inexplicable.

indeed. I wonder what these guys said back in 2007, when out of nowhere(for them) soler came down and was one of the best climbers in the world only losing to contador and a filled with dope rasmussen

 

[will10]

so he's a doctor who just helps one rider at a team? seems kind of a bad doctor

Seemed to do a decent job at Saunier Duval.

 

[BroDeal]

It took Wiggins ten years of pro tour team road riding to grind himself up to a GT win. It took Nibali five. Which one of those looks more like 'coming out of nowhere'

Wiggins, of couse. He had his chance time and time again to show what he was capable of. He had a hard time keeping up with the autobus. Nibali followed the classic path of good GT riders. His class was evident from the beginning.

 

[BroDeal]

indeed. I wonder what these guys said back in 2007, when out of nowhere(for them) soler came down and was one of the best climbers in the world only losing to contador and a filled with dope rasmussen

You mean the guy who then jumped to a Pro Tour team, was under greater scrutiny from the bio passport, and basically disappeared? That guy?

 

[will10]

You mean the guy who then jumped to a Pro Tour team, was under greater scrutiny from the bio passport, and bascially disappeared? That guy?

Oh boy, you just made Ryo Hulk angry.

 

[BroDeal]

we saw nothing at that age period? wiggins tore up everything he did on the track.

And I tore up everything in local racing. A big fish in a little pond means nothing. Track is worthless. The real riders are on the road because that is where the money is. There are hundreds of World Tour riders making a 100K plus, and they are just domestiques. Why the hell would any of them waste their time on the track?

 

[Benotti69]

so he's a doctor who just helps one rider at a team? seems kind of a bad doctor

another post showing why you rarely visit the clinic.

Go look at Lotto results and OPQS results never mind Saunier Duvall

http://www.dopeology.org/people/José_Ibarguren/

 

[thehog]

and i tore up everything in local racing. A big fish in a little pond means nothing. Track is worthless. The real riders are on the road because that is where the money is. There are hundreds of world tour riders making a 100k plus, and they are just domestiques. Why the hell would any of them waste their time on the track?

+100000




......

 

[xcleigh]

You mean the guy who then jumped to a Pro Tour team, was under greater scrutiny from the bio passport, and basically disappeared? That guy?

Was doing ok at 2011 Tour de Suisse until he disappeared....into a coma. Not nice.

 

[xcleigh]

And I tore up everything in local racing. A big fish in a little pond means nothing. Track is worthless. The real riders are on the road because that is where the money is. There are hundreds of World Tour riders making a 100K plus, and they are just domestiques. Why the hell would any of them waste their time on the track?

-1 Graham. Sorry.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

You mean the guy who then jumped to a Pro Tour team, was under greater scrutiny from the bio passport, and basically disappeared? That guy?

And matey mate of Chrissie Vrrrrrrrrrroooommmm at Barloworld. One day fly.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Seemed to do a decent job at Saunier Duval.

with ricco and piepoli? they didn't exactly suck before saunier duval either and in ricco's case and probably piepoli was also doped a lot before saunier duval

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

You mean the guy who then jumped to a Pro Tour team, was under greater scrutiny from the bio passport, and basically disappeared? That guy?

he was never in any scrutiny from the bio passport and a guy laying in a coma, he had to quit cycling and thus the pro tour, winning the last race he did. my god what a tasteless a**hole you are. very few riders I will put my hand in the fire for never using dope. soler is one of them

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

another post showing why you rarely visit the clinic.

Go look at Lotto results and OPQS results never mind Saunier Duvall

http://www.dopeology.org/people/José_Ibarguren/

lotto, agreed but that was 10 years ago when peloton was still on the juice. he did nothing exceptional at quickstep. they were great ine alry part of season as they always are and after ealry april sucked in almost every race. only difference being that now they had a bunch of expensive great itt guys and gc guys, and what amazing years martin, leipheimer and velits had

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

And I tore up everything in local racing. A big fish in a little pond means nothing. Track is worthless. The real riders are on the road because that is where the money is. There are hundreds of World Tour riders making a 100K plus, and they are just domestiques. Why the hell would any of them waste their time on the track?

because wiggo was making million on the track. you have no diea how track cycling goes in uk and australia, it is/was way bigger than roadcycling. do you think chris hoy ever has to work in his post track career?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

lotto, agreed but that was 10 years ago when peloton was still on the juice

Funny man, really. Do some homework when visiting the clinic, please.

 

[BroDeal]

he was never in any scrutiny from the bio passport and a guy laying in a coma, he had to quit cycling and thus the pro tour, winning the last race he did. my god what a tasteless a**hole you are

F U. You are the one who brought up Soler then when called on it, you try to stop discussion by callously using Soler's accident. The only tasteless ******* here is you.

Soler's accident has nothing to do with him underperforming when he went to a Pro Tour team and was thus under much more scrutiny by the bio passport than he was on a Pro Continental team. Funny enough, Froome was on Barloworld and he sucked afterward until Sky relaxed their anti-doping stance. Coincidence, I am sure.

 

[BroDeal]

because wiggo was making million on the track. you have no diea how track cycling goes in uk and australia, it is/was way bigger than roadcycling. do you think chris hoy ever has to work in his post track career?

Nobody gives a damn what the Brits think of cycling. The big boys are on the road. That is where the money is. That is where a rider can test himself against the best in the world. Being a big star on a small island did not stop Wiggins from decing he needed to make money by racing on the road. When tested against the best on the road, we found out just how much talent it took to win those track titles. It was not much.

 

[Wiggo Warrior]

Nobody gives a damn what the Brits think of cycling. The big boys are on the road. That is where the money is. That is where a rider can test himself against the best in the world. Being a big star on a small island did not stop Wiggins from decing he needed to make money by racing on the road. When tested against the best on the road, we found out just how much talent it took to win those track titles. It was not much.

The year after he decided to give the road a real try he came 4th at the Tour. That sounds like some talent to me?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

The year after he decided to give the road a real try he came 4th at the Tour. That sounds like some talent to me?

It would be nice then if Wiggo payed back his salary to his former employers when he didnt give it a real try? Would like to know what Roger Legeay thinks of Wiggo now...

And, by means, he knows talent.