Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[JimmyFingers]

Either that crash or very poor pacing. The latter seems unlikely, unless he went far too into the red trying to break Bertie on stage 2. It looked like stupid racing then, although it was one hell of a spectacle, watching the pair of them, and their contrasting styles, go toe to toe.

The weak link in Sky looks like Porte. He looks a long way behind last season's form.

 

[Netserk]

Yesterday was very good tactics from Sky.

First time Ive ever seen it. Up to now they have been the most tactically inept team in all sport by a wide margin, but yesterday was different.

If they wanted a stage win, why did Sky chase so much behind, and why did Porte drop back? What did they tactically win from that?

 

[JimmyFingers]

If they wanted a stage win, why did Sky chase so much behind, and why did Porte drop back? What did they tactically win from that?

Think its more that they had a Plan B. Clearly they tried at least with Froome, but did so without burning up their doms, instead sending them up the road, possibly with a view to Froome bridging to them, but then when he couldn't Porte went back and Nieve for the win.

Or it could have been dumb luck.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Hinault never felt weak.

He either felt strong enough to kill you, or strong enough to butcher you whole village, and then kill you.

Except when he did feel weak.

Example, 1984 Tour. Recovering from a knee injury, far from his best, against a top form Fignon, he kept attacking, cracking, losing minutes, stage after stage.

And every time he justified it like that. 'When I feel weak, I attack'
It's a bit like Pickett's charge, noble but incredibly stupid.

 

[the sceptic]

2012 and 2013: 6 month peak without anyone getting sick or fatigued ever, while looking like skeletons.

2014: everyone dropping like flies with all kinds of diseases.

Most strange.

 

[Benotti69]

2012 and 2013: 6 month peak without anyone getting sick or fatigued ever, while looking like skeletons.

2014: everyone dropping like flies with all kinds of diseases.

Most strange.

Wonder does the program have a limited life span? 1 or 2 years max before riders health starts to suffer.

Although with Wiggins, i think he is done with the sport pretty much and DNGAF.

 

[the sceptic]

Wonder does the program have a limited life span? 1 or 2 years max before riders health starts to suffer.

Although with Wiggins, i think he is done with the sport pretty much and DNGAF.

Could be. It certainly doesnt look healthy.

Should be interesting to see how long the Dawg will last. Maybe he is starting to break down too.

 

[red_flanders]

Wonder does the program have a limited life span? 1 or 2 years max before riders health starts to suffer.

Although with Wiggins, i think he is done with the sport pretty much and DNGAF.

It seems clear that whatever the program, Wiggins wasn't interested in doing it anymore after 2012, at least for a while, spawning the new finding that "you have to put weight on to TT". You may be on to something.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Wonder does the program have a limited life span? 1 or 2 years max before riders health starts to suffer.

Trolling body building forums, there are modern PED's that will have a permanent negative impact in exchange for a temporary gain. I'm definitely not confident the explanation as easy as that. I agree with red_flanders.

Only Sir Brad knows the story.

 

[Tinman]

Wonder does the program have a limited life span? 1 or 2 years max before riders health starts to suffer.

Catabolic steroids depress the immune response. That's their whole point, reduce the inflammation, hence their use in inflamed muscle tissue injuries, or asthma (inflamed bronchial smooth muscle).

You depress the immune response too often, for too long, and presumably you start screwing up the body's natural defense mechanisms. Ie the speed and intensity of the body fighting infections by itself, naturally, will decrease.

So no wonder after a good year or two of an intensive catabolic steroid regime these guys are getting sick a lot of the time. Even more so with their low body weights and cold rainy races early in the season.

 

[sniper]

It seems clear that whatever the program, Wiggins wasn't interested in doing it anymore after 2012, at least for a while, spawning the new finding that "you have to put weight on to TT". You may be on to something.

my guess is wiggo's ol lady told him to take it easy and gain some friggin weight so that she can rest her head on his shoulder again, rather than on his shoulder bone.

 

[Benotti69]

It seems clear that whatever the program, Wiggins wasn't interested in doing it anymore after 2012, at least for a while, spawning the new finding that "you have to put weight on to TT". You may be on to something.

If this is the case it will mean they will be churning through riders every few years or they will become a team with riders that target 1 maybe 2 races a season! Where have we seen that before.........

 

[red_flanders]

If this is the case it will mean they will be churning through riders every few years or they will become a team with riders that target 1 maybe 2 races a season! Where have we seen that before.........

Don't know about that. Seemed to me Wiggins needed a break, probably a lot of it mental.

 

[mrhender]

Transparency

The transparency that they claim to hold so dearly is the joke of the century..

What does transparency means if the still wear black armour behind it....?

Nothing...


Now THIS is transparency

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Although with Wiggins, i think he is done with the sport pretty much and DNGAF.

I think he still has his eye on the World ITT and another tilt at the Olympics, but it certainly looks like he's not really up for further long campaigns away from home on the road.

 

[TailWindHome]

Team Sky ‏@TeamSky · 2m
Sergio Henao was involved in a training accident and will not compete in today’s TT. He is being assessed by team doctor. Details to follow.



WHAT DOES THIS MEAN????

 

[the sceptic]

Team Sky ‏@TeamSky · 2m
Sergio Henao was involved in a training accident and will not compete in today’s TT. He is being assessed by team doctor. Details to follow.



WHAT DOES THIS MEAN????

He clearly faked the crash to avoid getting tested.

 

[pastronef]

He clearly faked the crash to avoid getting tested.

he was hit by a car during the TT recon and went to hospital

http://www.eitb.com/es/deportes/dep...o--sigue-7a-etapa-tour-suiza-directo-eitbcom/

Robert Hatch @robhatchtv 44m
Henao’s condition as yet unknown - waiting for news from hospital. #TdSuisse

 

[Dear Wiggo]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN????

Broken capslock key?

 

[Will Carter]

Team Sky ‏@TeamSky · 2m
Sergio Henao was involved in a training accident and will not compete in today’s TT. He is being assessed by team doctor. Details to follow.



WHAT DOES THIS MEAN????

It means he was involved in an accident, is hurt and wont compete.

 

[Will Carter]

broken capslock key?

rofl......

 

[Benotti69]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...hris-Froomes-use-of-glucocorticosteroids.html

"Team Sky operate a zero-tolerance policy with regard to riders and staff who have ever had any involvement in doping."

Did they forget to ask Servais Knaven about his time at Domo Farm Frites(2002)...

http://www.dopeology.org/incidents/Sainz-and-Vandenbroucke-arrests/

Bernard 'Dr Mabuse' Sainz (Domo Farm Frites 2002)was arrested after suspect substances were found in his car. Police searched Vandenbroucke's house, where Sainz had stayed. finding banned products there. The products were said to have been supplied by Mouton.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news/2002/mar02/mar01news.php

boy Sky sure are crap at telling lies, but i suppose par for the course for the sport........

 

[Saint Unix]

Sky are better at saying one thing and doing the other than they are at driving trains up mountain roads. I just hope they don't say that Froome won't win the Tour this year.

 

[Tinman]

I just hope they don't say that Froome won't win the Tour this year.

What ARE the chances Froome being withdrawn for a persistent lung infection, no Henao, Ritchie not on the program, and Wiggo too fat?

 

[pancakes]

What ARE the chances Froome being withdrawn for a persistent lung infection, no Henao, Ritchie not on the program, and Wiggo too fat?

Boasson Hagen injured (can't they get him a TUE? slackers, they just don't want it bad enough), also not riding Tour.
Poor old Sir Dave, running out of riders.