Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[djpbaltimore]

Re: Sky

Haha good post, just skimmed back the last few pages and there's no-one person saying Sky is clean, just endless people moaning about them and 'The Brits'. Same old story.

G is the new Froome who was the new Wiggins who was the new Armstrong. C'est la Vie.

Agreed. Quite an extrapolation from results of a single stage raced without the vast majority of the best climbers in the world. (Also not an indication of a clean rider either.)

 

[sniper]

didn't thomas use to share the room with wiggins at the tdf?
wonder what he learned from him.

 

[DBotero]

Re: Sky

Jens blog>>>
1. 2015: 44:32 Thibaut Pinot 15.63 km/h
2. 2015: 45:06 Domenico Pozzovivo 15.43 km/h
3. 2015: 45:09 Simon Spilak 15.42 km/h
4. 2015: 45:15 Miguel Angel Lopez 15.38 km/h
5. 2015: 45:15 Geraint Thomas 15.38 km/h
6. 2007: 45:47 David Lopez 15.20 km/h
7. 2015: 45:47 Jakob Fuglsang 15.20 km/h
8. 2015: 45:50 Jan Hirt 15.19 km/h
9. 2007: 45:59 Jens Voigt 15.14 km/h
10. 2015: 46:01 Sergio Luis Henao 15.12 km/h

11. 2007: 46:07 Robert Gesink 15.09 km/h
12. 2005: 46:09 Levi Leipheimer 15.08 km/h
13. 2015: 46:09 Tom Dumoulin 15.08 km/h
14. 2015: 46:12 Rafal Majka 15.06 km/h
15. 2007: 46:20 Damiano Cunego 15.02 km/h
16. 2005: 46:24 Georg Totschnig 15.00 km/h
17. 2007: 46:33 Laurens Ten Dam 14.95 km/h
18. 2015: 46:48 Sébastien Reichenbach 14.87 km/h
19. 2015: 46:48 Steve Morabito 14.87 km/h
20. 2015: 46:48 Laurens Ten Dam 14.87 km/h
21. 2015: 46:48 Warren Barguil 14.87 km/h
22. 2007: 46:51 Leonardo Bertagnolli 14.86 km/h
23. 2007: 46:57 Levi Leipheimer 14.82 km/h
24. 2007: 46:57 Christian Pfannberger 14.82 km/h
25. 2005: 46:59 Jan Ullrich 14.81 km/h
26. 2015: 46:59 Robert Gesink 14.81 km/h
27. 2015: 47:07 Esteban Chaves 14.77 km/h
28. 2007: 47:16 Chris Anker Sørensen 14.72 km/h
29. 2005: 47:21 Cadel Evans 14.70 km/h
30. 2007: 47:30 Josep Jufre 14.65 km/h
31. 2005: 47:33 Jörg Jaksche 14.64 km/h
32. 2015: 47:35 Joseph Lloyd Dombrowski 14.63 km/h
33. 2015: 47:37 Bob Jungels 14.62 km/h
34. 2015: 47:37 Kristijan Durasek 14.62 km/h
35. 2005: 47:50 Tadej Valjavec 14.55 km/h
36. 2007: 47:57 Marzio Bruseghin 14.52 km/h
37. 2007: 48:02 Wim Van Huffel 14.49 km/h
38. 2007: 48:14 Maxime Monfort 14.43 km/h
39. 2007: 48:20 Florian Stalder 14.40 km/h
40. 2015: 48:29 Ben Hermans 14.36 km/h
41. 2007: 48:35 Davide Rebellin 14.33 km/h
42. 2007: 48:35 Andrea Tonti 14.33 km/h
43. 2007: 48:51 Peter Velits 14.25 km/h
44. 2005: 48:55 Saul Raisin 14.23 km/h
45. 2007: 48:56 Martin Elmiger 14.22 km/h
46. 2005: 48:57 Marco Fertonani 14.22 km/h
47. 2015: 49:00 Kanstantsin Siutsou 14.20 km/h
48. 2015: 49:02 Daniel Moreno 14.19 km/h
49. 2007: 49:07 Amaël Moinard 14.17 km/h
50. 2007: 49:14 Koos Moerenhout 14.14 km/h

So we have this but everybody is talking only about Sky,G.respectively.Of course the other guys guys were powered by pure talent and will to the summit.It doesn't matter,the clinic is still the most hilarious part of the cycling news.

Yeah, but the other guys don't belong to team who want us to believe they are clean in the face of hiring Leinders and it's all done on nice pillows and flavoured water. That's why the Sky thread is as big as it is.

So the size of this thread is justified by Sky PR stunts

 

[red_flanders]

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

 

[DBotero]

Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

No it doesn't

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

No such posts exist, not a single one. Maybe I blocked all these imaginary 'Skybots' and forgot about it.

 

[Singer01]

Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

you and i are reading a very different thread. as always its 50% racism from sky haters, and 50% jingoism from sky supporters.

 

[BYOP88]

Re: Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

you and i are reading a very different thread. as always its 50% racism from sky haters, and 50% jingoism from sky supporters.

Racism You should report that.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Re: Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

you and i are reading a very different thread. as always its 50% racism from sky haters, and 50% jingoism from sky supporters.

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[JimmyFingers]

I think this page sums up why this thread is so long: bickering.

At least you have a model for G, since being world class on the track counts for nothing on the road, apparently.

 

[DFA123]

Re:

I think this page sums up why this thread is so long: bickering.

At least you have a model for G, since being world class on the track counts for nothing on the road, apparently.

It really doesn't count for much, because only a handful of countries take track cycling seriously. The vast majority of decent riders from all the major cycling nations have had no interest in a track career.

Plus, of course, the fact that a 4km pursuit has only a very little crossover with climbing a HC mountain.

 

[TheSpud]

Re:

didn't thomas use to share the room with wiggins at the tdf?
wonder what he learned from him.

How to be a grumpy bastard?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Thomas Gerrans just never was that focussed on road racing, the track was his thing for ages. Now, in a non - Olympics year he switched his focus to being a TT'er and a mountaingoat. That's all.

No wonders for a man with his skills and dito admiration for Armstrond.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Thomas thrashing Demare in a sprint now. You couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[Singer01]

Re: Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

you and i are reading a very different thread. as always its 50% racism from sky haters, and 50% jingoism from sky supporters.

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

or alternately you can't recognise racism when you see it.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

you and i are reading a very different thread. as always its 50% racism from sky haters, and 50% jingoism from sky supporters.

32,950 posts, that means 16,475 are racist. Can you link 20?

 

[hrotha]

The implied comparison with Wiggins isn't a good one. Thomas could always climb reasonably well (not like an actual climber, not for a GT top 15, but reasonably well. Stout GT top 30 material). Wiggins was 100% an autobus passenger.

 

[MatParker117]

Re:

The implied comparison with Wiggins isn't a good one. Thomas could always climb reasonably well (not like an actual climber, not for a GT top 15, but reasonably well. Stout GT top 30 material). Wiggins was 100% an autobus passenger.

He won Fleche du Sud as a junior.

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

I think this page sums up why this thread is so long: bickering.

At least you have a model for G, since being world class on the track counts for nothing on the road, apparently.

No.

Wiggins used to ride in the gruppetto all the time.

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

The implied comparison with Wiggins isn't a good one. Thomas could always climb reasonably well (not like an actual climber, not for a GT top 15, but reasonably well. Stout GT top 30 material). Wiggins was 100% an autobus passenger.

Do you think that equates to what he did yesterday?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Re: Re:

The implied comparison with Wiggins isn't a good one. Thomas could always climb reasonably well (not like an actual climber, not for a GT top 15, but reasonably well. Stout GT top 30 material). Wiggins was 100% an autobus passenger.

He won Fleche du Sud as a junior.

Agreed, that is the prelude to greatness

He absolutely isnt a bad rider but after London he really transformed. Must be the altitude training and stuffies.

 

[hrotha]

Re: Re:

The implied comparison with Wiggins isn't a good one. Thomas could always climb reasonably well (not like an actual climber, not for a GT top 15, but reasonably well. Stout GT top 30 material). Wiggins was 100% an autobus passenger.

Do you think that equates to what hid did yesterday?

I don't know.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Re: Re:

Hilarious. I read this last page and it's almost entirely Sky fans complaining about people saying why the thread is so long. Which pretty much explains why the thread is so long.

you and i are reading a very different thread. as always its 50% racism from sky haters, and 50% jingoism from sky supporters.

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

or alternately you can't recognise racism when you see it.

What I can recognize is stupidity, and it's emanating from your posts in spades.

 

[No_Balls]

Re: Sky

They've gone too far this time. Outclimbing superstar climbers like Fuglsang, Jan Hirt, the really lightweight Tom Dumoulin, Reichenbach, Ten Dam, Morabito, and a flying Rafal Majka is just too much.

You guys are awesome.

Wasnt the excuse given in 2012 - after a six month peak - when the brits powered around France over 450W to keep the dirty cheaters in check that the best opposition wasnt there?

 

[roundabout]

Re: Re:

The implied comparison with Wiggins isn't a good one. Thomas could always climb reasonably well (not like an actual climber, not for a GT top 15, but reasonably well. Stout GT top 30 material). Wiggins was 100% an autobus passenger.

He won Fleche du Sud as a junior.

Yes, conquering those HC mountains in Luxembourg is a sign of great climbing talent for sure