Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Floatstick]

It counts for him, but I don't really count a charge of 'knowing or believing to dope riders' is actually about riders being doped by him because there's no evidence with that statemen

I wish Willy Voet had thought to tell the cops that all the stuff he had on him wasn't for riders, just someone else on the team.

 

[samhocking]

I wish Willy Voet had thought to tell the cops that all the stuff he had on him wasn't for riders, just someone else on the team.

Voet had physical evidence of illegal doping products in his car, computer files to prove the riders were using EPO and the riders were tested for EPO while in custody and all bar one tested positive or admitted doping lol.
This is my entire point, doping accusations and certainly any sanctions used to involve actual doping, proven evidence, not an unknown person making a statement to a newspaper taken as the truth blindly while it's protected by affidavit and an email trail where there was more evidence the testogel didn't end up with riders than did. Not a single rider involved in any investigation by UKAD, WADA, UCI, DCMS or GMC either and none sanctioned.

 

[MartinGT]

Skyfall #4: British Cycling's nandrolone mystery before London 2012 Olympics

Events around an anomalous drug test ahead of the London Games led to a WADA probe in 2021 and leave British Cycling with unanswered ethical questions to this day

sportingintelligence832.substack.com

 

[pastronef]

more than 24 hours since last post, 8th thread (before I bumped it obvs).
also, is this Nick Harris "investigation" having a big echo outside the forum?

 

[MartinGT]

Its really not. Until a big rider is named it will be ignored.

 

[DJO]

Skyfall #5: Naming names, Jiffy-gate revelations and the Sutton tapes

In this final part of "Skyfall': the most notorious incident in British cycling's modern history, tribunal secrets, Wiggins' unreleased documentary, and Shane Sutton in his own words

sportingintelligence832.substack.com

 

[MartinGT]

What a disappointing end.

 

[awavey]

What a disappointing end.

Largely as expected

 

[budegan]

So did we learn anything new at all?

 

[MartinGT]

So did we learn anything new at all?

Yes, never subscribe to that again

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Discussing Team Sky's "winning behaviours" initiative, Wiggins said, "I don't know what it meant."
"I remember all that crap they came out with," he went on to say. "I mean, it's the same thing Dave Brailsford's doing the same now at Manchester United – Project 21 or whatever it's called."
Wiggins added a harsher evaluation of Brailsford, despite the former team manager's sparkling career achievements, claiming, "He's just a bluffer".
"I don't know how any of that… that was more, maybe for the staff, the winning behaviours thing," he said.

'I wish I'd said what I thought' - Bradley Wiggins considers public condemnation of Lance Armstrong one of his 'main regrets'

Speaking on the Cyclist magazine podcast, Wiggins also claimed he didn't understand 'winning behaviours' initiatives at Team Sky

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[veganrob]

I wish he would shed a little more light on what was really happening then. Sure he would be indicting himself but does anyone think he was cleans.

 

[Tim Cahill]

"I wish I'd said what I thought"

Go on then, now's your chance, do it, I'll be the first to listen, instead of just whingeing and making self-indulgent allusions to things in the press without elaborating like you've been doing for the last 10 years.

It's like your drunk menopausal aunt vagueposting on facebook at 4am, 2 many snakes in this town just focusing on me and the kids from now on.

 

[Rackham]

It's evident to me that Wiggins is literally "this close" (insert length of little pinky finger) from saying what he really did to win the 2012 TdF with Sky. The problem is always the same though: he'd get sued to oblivion and Froome, Sky and co would deny everything.