Teams & Riders Team Movistar-thread

[Red Rick]

When Dumoulin won the Giro Quintana actually had a really good TT, losing only 1:25 on Dumoulin over 30k. And that TT was as flat as a pancake.

Giro d'Italia 2017 Stage 21 (ITT) results

Tom Dumoulin is the winner of Giro d'Italia 2017, before Nairo Quintana and Vincenzo Nibali. Jos van Emden is the winner of the final stage.

www.procyclingstats.com

So he can produce good TTs, just not today.

That was average, it gaps in general were on the smaller side, as they tend to be in pan flat TTs with no wind.

 

[ice&fire]

When Dumoulin won the Giro Quintana actually had a really good TT, losing only 1:25 on Dumoulin over 30k. And that TT was as flat as a pancake.

Giro d'Italia 2017 Stage 21 (ITT) results

Tom Dumoulin is the winner of Giro d'Italia 2017, before Nairo Quintana and Vincenzo Nibali. Jos van Emden is the winner of the final stage.

www.procyclingstats.com

So he can produce good TTs, just not today.

Quintana lost almost 3 minutes to Dumolin in the ITT after the first rest day over 39.8km including some climbing.

Giro d'Italia 2017 Stage 10 (ITT) results

Tom Dumoulin is the winner of Giro d'Italia 2017 Stage 10 (ITT), before Geraint Thomas and Bob Jungels. Tom Dumoulin was leader in GC.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[Red Rick]

Quintana lost almost 3 minutes to Dumolin in the ITT after the first rest day over 39.8km including some climbing.

Giro d'Italia 2017 Stage 10 (ITT) results

Tom Dumoulin is the winner of Giro d'Italia 2017 Stage 10 (ITT), before Geraint Thomas and Bob Jungels. Tom Dumoulin was leader in GC.

www.procyclingstats.com

In that ITT only 4 guys finished within 2 minutes of Dumoulin though.

 

[Lequack]

That Giro was really perfect for Dumoulin, so much TT.

 

[Noddy97]

My fear is the weakness quintana showed today. Last year he was very good in the first week and after that he went backward and I'm feeling this vuelta will be the same. Unfortunately, Bala never was a favourite to me, he can't gain minutes in a stage, in his all entire career he never won 30/40 seconds to all his rivals in the mountains.

 

[Koronin]

My fear is the weakness quintana showed today. Last year he was very good in the first week and after that he went backward and I'm feeling this vuelta will be the same. Unfortunately, Bala never was a favourite to me, he can't gain minutes in a stage, in his all entire career he never won 30/40 seconds to all his rivals in the mountains.

The team may take the gamble that Valverde finishing on the podium is a safer bet and go with that.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

^^ Wonder if Contador or his fans would have accepted him, being a champion, finishing on the podium rather than going all out for the win, regardless if he finishes outside the top ten? NQ will no doubt go on the attack from far out to give it a shot but will no doubt fail and end up doming for Vv, but at least he tried. Would Vv go all out to try and win? Doubt it, unless it's in a reduced bunch uphill sprint. Or now he is in a position on the podium, is he gonna wheelsuck his way to remain there? If I was Unzue, I think I would try and go all out for the win in my home GT rather than accept a podium and the odd stage win. But I'm not Unzue and I don't watch enough cycling.

 

[Blanco]

My fear is the weakness quintana showed today. Last year he was very good in the first week and after that he went backward and I'm feeling this vuelta will be the same. Unfortunately, Bala never was a favourite to me, he can't gain minutes in a stage, in his all entire career he never won 30/40 seconds to all his rivals in the mountains.

He doesn't need to gain on all rivals, only on Roglic, and that's not impossible by any means...

 

[Blanco]

^^ Wonder if Contador or his fans would have accepted him, being a champion, finishing on the podium rather than going all out for the win, regardless if he finishes outside the top ten? NQ will no doubt go on the attack from far out to give it a shot but will no doubt fail and end up doming for Vv, but at least he tried. Would Vv go all out to try and win? Doubt it, unless it's in a reduced bunch uphill sprint. Or now he is in a position on the podium, is he gonna wheelsuck his way to remain there? If I was Unzue, I think I would try and go all out for the win in my home GT rather than accept a podium and the odd stage win. But I'm not Unzue and I don't watch enough cycling.

You don't need to watch cycling at all, you know in advance what will happen

 

[Noddy97]

Valverde fans are becoming a little bit like the contador fans. No one can criticize valverde here, if someone do that, the valverde fans almost kill you with their posts. It isn't the first time valverde don't kill himself to win in order to mantain his podium place.

 

[Blanco]

Valverde fans are becoming a little bit like the contador fans. No one can criticize valverde here, if someone do that, the valverde fans almost kill you with their posts. It isn't the first time valverde don't kill himself to win in order to mantain his podium place.

Maybe you won't get response if you actually wait for that to happen, and then criticize...

 

[Noddy97]

Vuelta is over. Time to win more stages and fight for the podium.

Like I said vuelta is over. Roglic is simply stronger unfortunately. Valverde can't gain significant time on the moutains and quintana seems weaker now

 

[LaFlorecita]

What was that all about today... NQ and AV seem to be riding against each other, not with each other. Crazy.

 

[tobydawq]

What was that all about today... NQ and AV seem to be riding against each other, not with each other. Crazy.

Today looked stupid indeed, but it's double digit percentages and it probably didn't influence much on their result.

And again, neither of them really did anything directly detrimental to the other.

 

[glassmoon]

Hilarious stuff today. Must admint I'm going to miss those endeavors next season.

 

[Lequack]

Old man Quintana hugging Valverde after the stage

 

[Koronin]

If I'm lucky power was restored at home in time to DVR at least the 2ND hour of the stage. Sounds more no idea what Movistar is or isn't trying to do.

 

[ice&fire]

Hilarious stuff today. Must admint I'm going to miss those endeavors next season.

lol wut? Soler has shown he's got the character to carry on with the torch

 

[Lequack]

Some shenanigans in the camp

https://twitter.com/x/status/1170231208581718016

View: https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/1170231208581718016

 

[glassmoon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1172607452577193986

View: https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/1172607452577193986

Funny how they are trying to apologize but using balant lies in the process - half of the team (Piti included) saw the crash, they were nowhere near the front at that moment...
That's not how apologies work, Movistar. Either don't apologize at all or be honest FFS.

 

[hrotha]

They didn't say anything about not seeing the crash, they said they stuck to a pre-existing plan to attack at that point.

 

[bajbar]

Movistar blocked their Facebook page to Slovenian IP adresses yesterday

 

[Blanco]

What a shitty tactics today!
You can't protect someone who doesn't react for direct threats! And who by the way hasn't got the legs for it.
And Valverde FFS! When you attack, then attack! Go for once all or nothing, *** the team, *** Quintana, *** your own mentality!!!

 

[Valv.Piti]

What a shitty tactics today!
You can't protect someone who doesn't react for direct threats! And who by the way hasn't got the legs for it.
And Valverde FFS! When you attack, then attack! Go for once all or nothing, * the team, * Quintana, *** your own mentality!!!

Pretty much. Forced on the backfoot and ro rely on Pedrero and Soler who had nothing left. Quintana has hampered the team the last 3 days and Valverde... yeah, dno.

 

[HelloDolly]

Being a bit unfair on Movistar

Valverde is nearly 40...in anyone's book 2ndin a GT is a marvelous result
Neither he nor Quintana had the legs to do more

Just like MAL hadn't the legs to deliver

Roglic won the Vuelta in the ITT stage and no one could change that