Team Visma LAB

[BR2]

With that look on their faces they look even more like a robots' army.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Why does Vingegaard look like he's the same size as Anna Henderson?

She also seems to be the only who actually noticed that side camera.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Why does Vingegaard look like he's the same size as Anna Henderson?

She also seems to be the only who actually noticed that side camera.

Jos van Emden is looking at the camera as well but he‘s also blinking.

 

[samhocking]

Vingegaard looks about the right height to me, he's under 60kg for Tour.

 

[BR2]

A thread that needs reviving. Gloag.

 

[noob]

So many good looking people. Low key unfair. Or maybe they just have perfect photo lighting or air brusing. Should be unreal to have that kind of skin when doing cycling for so many years.

 

[SafeBet]

A thread that needs reviving. Gloag.

I mean he was a big talent since young age but his end of the season results in the Italian semi classics were quite a shock for me.
I had no doubt he would come out all guns blazing this year.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Well everybody seems happy with Rodriguez, Hayters, Plapp, Sheffield, Tullett, Turner, now Tarling and every promise doing great at Ineos, don´t think Gloag is worse in terms of potential than all of this guys, perhaps he is the best climber/gc guy of his year (2001) behind Rodriguez, despite all his health problems last year he still was prefered in Jumbo for this season over Staune-Mittet (the most consistent GC u23 rider in 2022) and Archie Ryan one of the better climbers in the U23 ranks, despite the fact that both are from his own development program.

 

[BR2]

Well everybody seems happy with Rodriguez, Hayters, Plapp, Sheffield, Tullett, Turner, now Tarling and every promise doing great at Ineos, don´t think Gloag is worse in terms of potential than all of this guys, perhaps he is the best climber/gc guy of his year (2001) behind Rodriguez, despite all his health problems last year he still was prefered in Jumbo for this season over Staune-Mittet (the most consistent GC u23 rider in 2022) and Archie Ryan one of the better climbers in the U23 ranks, despite the fact that both are from his own development program.

I am not okay with the Ineos guys. It's just that one has gotten used to the Skyneos team I guess. But at this point there are so many red flags everywhere again, of course it is difficult to pick certain ones and still each of them gives me a bad feeling.

 

[SafeBet]

I really wonder what Lefevere thinks while watching Jumbo destroy cobble races like QS used to do for years.

 

[Savant12]

Destroying the classics before WVA is unleashed and then there's Vingo.

 

[logeardaddy]

I really wonder what Lefevere thinks while watching Jumbo destroy cobble races like QS used to do for years.

Get Ferry Bowman on the phone!

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Christoph Laporte casually riding away from the best classic riders in the world on the kemmelberg like its a gentle kicker . Good training camp

 

[Mayomaniac]

I really wonder what Lefevere thinks while watching Jumbo destroy cobble races like QS used to do for years.

He lost Ibarguren and the remaining Witchdoctor Vanmol has to focus on his little Belgian cashcow and his entourage...

 

[noob]

He lost Ibarguren and the remaining Witchdoctor Vanmol has to focus on his little Belgian cashcow and his entourage...

Noob question: are you suggesting the reason QS is going worse is change in team doctors?

 

[Ricco']

Well, Ibarguren leaves to Movistar and next year they put two guys in the the top-5 of E3, right after the three aliens. Meanwhile, SOQ who did this kind of performances for a decade, suddenly lost all their mojo in this races, even to be best of the rest and fight for top-5/top-10.

 

[Pantani_lives]

The ketones are working!

 

[Rackham]

Christoph Laporte casually riding away from the best classic riders in the world on the kemmelberg like its a gentle kicker . Good training camp

The opposition wasn't exactly top tier.

I watched the race, i.e. Quick-Step (yep, former classics masters) only showed themselves when Mister enormous thighs Fabio Jacobsen decided to suspend his brain & go on what the French call a "chasse patate" aka chasing potatoes, which means trying to make an impossible jump to the front of the race out of the peloton, alone. He did get to show his nice European champ jersey though, so there's that.

WvA had no opponent in today's race & his gift to Laporte was pretty gracious tbh (like seriously one of the biggest gifts I've seen, up there with Armstrong giving the Ventoux to Pantani, although the recipient of the gift was much happier on this occasion). I basically think Jumbo's results so far this season have more to do with the opposition not being up to their former standard IMO. It's not just Quick-Step either: Bahrain, Ineos & Intermaché are nowhere right now.

Jumbo meanwhile are just doing a 'normal' season by their standards.

 

[rghysens]

Noob question: are you suggesting the reason QS is going worse is change in team doctors?

I´ll tell you the story of José Ibarguren Taus in short.
In 2008-2009 he worked for Saunier-Duval (with Gianetti as teammanager, if you´re a real noob: as a rider, Gianetti almost killed himself with experimental doping). In that time, guys like Ricco and Piepoli were destroying the whole peloton in mountain stages of giro and tour, before getting caught. The team folded in 2009 after too many positives. Ibarguren then went to Lotto (2009-2011), where he apparantly needed some time to make his magic work, but when it worked, it was good enough to make Bart De Clerq win a mountain stage in the Giro ( ok, it was only Montevergine) and Jelle Vanendert casually winning on Plateau de Beille. What he did with Philippe Gilbert is almost beyond words.
At the end of 2011 the cosponsor of Lotto (Davitamon) went to QS, and in the flemish press there was some speculating about which riders would follow. It was only a certain doctor that went. So after their horrible 2011, QS got dr Ibarguren joining their ranks, and all of a sudden Boonen rode a miracle spring, while Gilbert lost a lot of his mojo, until he got rejoined with Ibarguren in 2017. Granted, not every year was as succesfull, but from 2017 onwards they were on an incredible level until the end of 2021, when Ibarguren left QS for Movistar. There too, he needed some adaptation before the results kicked in, but since the summer of last year, they are riding very well (Mas in the Italian fall races). Meanwhile, QS has been reduced to Evenepoel and 2 sprinters.

 

[noob]

I´ll tell you the story of José Ibarguren Taus in short.
In 2008-2009 he worked for Saunier-Duval (with Gianetti as teammanager, if you´re a real noob: as a rider, Gianetti almost killed himself with experimental doping). In that time, guys like Ricco and Piepoli were destroying the whole peloton in mountain stages of giro and tour, before getting caught. The team folded in 2009 after too many positives. Ibarguren then went to Lotto (2009-2011), where he apparantly needed some time to make his magic work, but when it worked, it was good enough to make Bart De Clerq win a mountain stage in the Giro ( ok, it was only Montevergine) and Jelle Vanendert casually winning on Plateau de Beille. What he did with Philippe Gilbert is almost beyond words.
At the end of 2011 the cosponsor of Lotto (Davitamon) went to QS, and in the flemish press there was some speculating about which riders would follow. It was only a certain doctor that went. So after their horrible 2011, QS got dr Ibarguren joining their ranks, and all of a sudden Boonen rode a miracle spring, while Gilbert lost a lot of his mojo, until he got rejoined with Ibarguren in 2017. Granted, not every year was as succesfull, but from 2017 onwards they were on an incredible level until the end of 2021, when Ibarguren left QS for Movistar. There too, he needed some adaptation before the results kicked in, but since the summer of last year, they are riding very well (Mas in the Italian fall races). Meanwhile, QS has been reduced to Evenepoel and 2 sprinters.

I´ll tell you the story of José Ibarguren Taus in short.
In 2008-2009 he worked for Saunier-Duval (with Gianetti as teammanager, if you´re a real noob: as a rider, Gianetti almost killed himself with experimental doping). In that time, guys like Ricco and Piepoli were destroying the whole peloton in mountain stages of giro and tour, before getting caught. The team folded in 2009 after too many positives. Ibarguren then went to Lotto (2009-2011), where he apparantly needed some time to make his magic work, but when it worked, it was good enough to make Bart De Clerq win a mountain stage in the Giro ( ok, it was only Montevergine) and Jelle Vanendert casually winning on Plateau de Beille. What he did with Philippe Gilbert is almost beyond words.
At the end of 2011 the cosponsor of Lotto (Davitamon) went to QS, and in the flemish press there was some speculating about which riders would follow. It was only a certain doctor that went. So after their horrible 2011, QS got dr Ibarguren joining their ranks, and all of a sudden Boonen rode a miracle spring, while Gilbert lost a lot of his mojo, until he got rejoined with Ibarguren in 2017. Granted, not every year was as succesfull, but from 2017 onwards they were on an incredible level until the end of 2021, when Ibarguren left QS for Movistar. There too, he needed some adaptation before the results kicked in, but since the summer of last year, they are riding very well (Mas in the Italian fall races). Meanwhile, QS has been reduced to Evenepoel and 2 sprinters.

Thanks! I love hearing stories like these! Doping stories is my true crime guilty pleasure!

 

[zlev11]

the other teams need to start doing interval training or this is gonna get real boring

 

[MikeS369]

Or get rounder wheels and softer pillows.

 

[rghysens]

Don´t forget the beetroot juice.

 

[Savant12]

Baking soda. It's allowed Jumbo to rise to the top.

 

[Ghirmay4Ever]

And another one....