Team Visma LAB

[pastronef]

Jorgenson the new WVA. Like with Roglic, they realised WVA is not as good/more crash prone than before and so breed another mutant.

How long until he wins a GT?

Jorgenson showed his powers with Movistar 2023: win in Oman GC (for now his best climbing measured), 2nd in Romandie GC, 4th in E3, 9th in Flanders.
Visma didn't breed a mutant

 

[Slavique Nuke]

4th in E3

4th, behind Pog, MvdP and WvA, not bad.

And because of his unfortunate events, it's not like he had to beat any tier 1 riders today. Visma also did well with the team tactics. Let's see how he does against MvdP&Lidl on RVV, no doubt he was very strong today.

 

[Ripper]

Jorgenson the new WVA. Like with Roglic, they realised WVA is not as good/more crash prone than before and so breed another mutant.

How long until he wins a GT?

Well he is certainly surprising in the week long races. The dude is huge compared to some of the riders, but climbs pretty dang well.

None-clinic comment - he is ridiculously aero in the TT! (I am jealous)

 

[Red Rick]

Well he is certainly surprising in the week long races. The dude is huge compared to some of the riders, but climbs pretty dang well.

None-clinic comment - he is ridiculously aero in the TT! (I am jealous)

Is he? Cause with how he's climbing and how tall he is I'd expect a better TT if he was that aero

 

[nightowl]

V-LAB cooking up more aliens as needed again

 

[Ripper]

Is he? Cause with how he's climbing and how tall he is I'd expect a better TT if he was that aero

I think given his height and broad shoulders he is doing pretty amazing TTs. He seems to be checking off the boxes fairly well this year.

As has been noted in other posts, it appears we have folks who are doing well in some of the northern classics, and then come out punching high in the one week races. I am curious how Matty will do in a GT

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Jorgenson is the new Visma-LAB mutant. The guy is really impressive: from winning a cobbled classic to beating climbers in mountainous races.

 

[Nick2413]

Is he? Cause with how he's climbing and how tall he is I'd expect a better TT if he was that aero

His position looks really aero to the naked eye, at least from a side shot, long and stretched out completely horizontal, not sure about frontal though.

 

[Ripper]

I wonder how that training camp is going for Wout and Jonas. Will Jumbo turn their season around in a fairy tale way? Or is the real world just laying the smacketh down on the team this year?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I wonder how that training camp is going for Wout and Jonas. Will Jumbo turn their season around in a fairy tale way? Or is the real world just laying the smacketh down on the team this year?

They are postponing the decision as long as they can. On the presentation day they will be testing [Vingegaard]'s threshold. Grischa Niermann can't sleep at night wondering if [he] will show Teddy and co who's the strongest.

 

[AmRacer]

It's time to change the title of this thread, methinks.

 

[Ripper]

Yup. Also, I wonder how the mutant training camp is going

 

[noob]

It's time to change the title of this thread, methinks.

Yeah tbh better call them Rabo instead! I'm serious. It's like fashion; last season is out but 10-15 years ago is just retro 🤣

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

It's time to change the title of this thread, methinks.

Happy to do so, but if you have such a request, it is far more effective to @ me or PM me (or the OP) than to put a comment in the middle of a thread in the vague hope that someone might stumble across it.

 

[Netserk]

Gewissma-LAB!

 

[Netserk]

Plugge pushes the "contamination" old chestnut -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...ence-of-michel-hessmanns-positive-doping-test

So, are we to expect some update soon as Plugge has mentioned Hessmann?

Statement Team Visma | Lease a Bike after ruling in Michel Hessmann…

Team Visma | Lease a Bike has taken note of the German anti-doping agency NADA's decision in the case against Michel Hessmann. The rider was suspended by…

www.teamvismaleaseabike.com

4 months ban, with 3 of them already served. Ruled as contamination.

 

[Rob5091]

I don't suppose we'll ever hear all the details, but to drag this on for a year is a scandal.

 

[Ripper]

Nothing to see a Jisma-LAB.


But if you catch him you kill him

 

[Slavique Nuke]

If someone makes an excuse of contamination, shouldn't he have to back it up with evidence? With facts about when and how the contamination entered his system.

The NADA has now concluded that it is plausible that Hessmann took a contaminated medicine such as paracetamol, ibuprofen or naproxen.

But the NADA response does not provide any facts, just a speculation.

Hessmann's lawyer represents cheaters in quite a few doping cases in several different sports in Germany, so I guess he's pretty good at defending cheaters, but there's no question that the German anti-doping agency was a partner in covering up the case.

 

[meat puppet]

The way things are going I'm afraid that this Visma control vehicle is about a year or so late

'They're welcome to come and visit' - UCI set to investigate Visma-Lease a Bike's new 'control room' data analysis at Tour de France

Van set up with equipment to allow team to collect and analyse real-time data to help inform decisions on the road

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[ManicJack]

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The way things are going I'm afraid that this Visma control vehicle is about a year or so late

'They're welcome to come and visit' - UCI set to investigate Visma-Lease a Bike's new 'control room' data analysis at Tour de France

Van set up with equipment to allow team to collect and analyse real-time data to help inform decisions on the road

www.cyclingnews.com

Actually they secretly tested it last fall at the Vuelta. The computer analysis continually told them Kuss was the strongest. After a thorough review, the algorithm has been adjusted. It should get it right this time around.

 

[noob]

With all power they have how can they not give Kelderman a win!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

With all power they have how can they not give Kelderman a win!

Some things look good on paper, but are impossible in real life.

 

[noob]

Some things look good on paper, but are impossible in real life.

I refuse to believe it's impossible!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I refuse to believe it's impossible!

Maybe it's time for him to move to UAE to see if they can help him. Rohan Dennis would probably have done it.