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[Andy schleck]

Will they get it?

Wout could well win stages 10+12 from break aways. But break away stages is a bit of a lottery and riders doesn't like being in the same lottery as Wout and UAE are bound to get nervous if Wout goes away. So who knows.

Jonas might also turn it around and begin dropping Pogi on climbs again.

But I think there is a very real risk that they just won't get a stage win.

He is going to win on courchevel.

 

[IndianCyclist]

They are already unpopular by being the winner of the TDF and having a very strong team that dictates the pace ion a stage. They were unpopular when Roglic pressed with his accusations about Wright when he was right. Now with going after the fan that caused the crash, they might make themselves even more unpopular. Richard Plugge sure does not know how to make friends among the masses

 

[RedheadDane]

Their GT ITT curse (from 2020) seems to have been broken.

 

[theyoungest]

They are already unpopular by being the winner of the TDF and having a very strong team that dictates the pace ion a stage. They were unpopular when Roglic pressed with his accusations about Wright when he was right. Now with going after the fan that caused the crash, they might make themselves even more unpopular. Richard Plugge sure does not know how to make friends among the masses

Every team that wins a lot becomes unpopular (among a part of the cycling fanbase), that's just how it goes. I agree Richard Plugge is not the best when it comes to PR, even though his roots are actually in journalism, but you can't deny that he has done a great job in turning this team from the worst (2015) into the best team in the Worldtour.

 

[Rob5091]

First Gaudu insinuating stuff, then Madiot lashing out ... Netflix season 2 has it's first storyline.
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...myself-by-confronting-him-but-i-am-very-angry
“What Plugge says is shabby. Small and shabby. "Marc Madiot.

 

[Rackham]

First Gaudu insinuating stuff, then Madiot lashing out ... Netflix season 2 has it's first storyline.
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...myself-by-confronting-him-but-i-am-very-angry
“What Plugge says is shabby. Small and shabby. "Marc Madiot.

Time for a Madiot versus Plugge UFC-style cage fight.

Forget Musk versus Zuckerberg, this is where the real drama is.

 

[theyoungest]

Time for a Madiot versus Plugge UFC-style cage fight.

Forget Musk versus Zuckerberg, this is where the real drama is.

Madiot is a windbag. Plugge has a clumsy way of communicating, but at least he walks the walk.

 

[KZD]

Given that Roglič and Vingegård are both riding the Vuelta, I think its quite likely that Jumbo wins all three Grand Tours this season (unless Ayuso or Remco go thermonuclear).

Although it makes sense for Vingegård to ride the Vuelta this year, I also think that the pressure of finding a new sponsor also a played a role on the decision. Just hope Kuss doesn't ride it and gets the rest he deserves.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I hope they send Rogla, Vingo, Kuss and Vallter and just nuke the *** out of the field and see who can follow and who cant

 

[theyoungest]

Given that Roglič and Vingegård are both riding the Vuelta, I think its quite likely that Jumbo wins all three Grand Tours this season (unless Ayuso or Remco go thermonuclear).

Although it makes sense for Vingegård to ride the Vuelta this year, I also think that the pressure of finding a new sponsor also a played a role on the decision. Just hope Kuss doesn't ride it and gets the rest he deserves.

Nah, what is the Vuelta going to add that we don't already know? Or more importantly, that potential sponsors don't already know?

The biggest problem for Jumbo is that even though they're arguably the best team in the world right now, their home market doesn't really care. There isn't Vingemania on the streets of the Netherlands right now. Maybe a Danish sponsor will step in? If you look at their new social media followers, it's all Danes, not Dutchmen

 

[Andy schleck]

Nah, what is the Vuelta going to add that we don't already know? Or more importantly, that potential sponsors don't already know?

The biggest problem for Jumbo is that even though they're arguably the best team in the world right now, their home market doesn't really care. There isn't Vingemania on the streets of the Netherlands right now. Maybe a Danish sponsor will step in? If you look at their new social media followers, it's all Danes, not Dutchmen

If they renewed with a lot of riders, it's because they already have sponsor for the next years.

 

[DNP-Old]

Nah, what is the Vuelta going to add that we don't already know? Or more importantly, that potential sponsors don't already know?

The biggest problem for Jumbo is that even though they're arguably the best team in the world right now, their home market doesn't really care. There isn't Vingemania on the streets of the Netherlands right now. Maybe a Danish sponsor will step in? If you look at their new social media followers, it's all Danes, not Dutchmen

Not caring about what?

 

[Netserk]

I can see it. Team Lego: let’s play!

 

[theyoungest]

If they renewed with a lot of riders, it's because they already have sponsor for the next years.

Or these riders have a clause in their contract that leaves them free if there isn't a sponsor by August next year, or if they have to take a pay cut.

 

[KZD]

Nah, what is the Vuelta going to add that we don't already know? Or more importantly, that potential sponsors don't already know?

The biggest problem for Jumbo is that even though they're arguably the best team in the world right now, their home market doesn't really care. There isn't Vingemania on the streets of the Netherlands right now. Maybe a Danish sponsor will step in? If you look at their new social media followers, it's all Danes, not Dutchmen

Even though sponsors mostly care about the Tour, winning the three Grand Tours in the same season its an impressive feat and quite marketable too.

 

[The Clogger]

Anyone know where I can find the All-in: Team Jumbo Visma documentary? I've looked around and I can't find it anywhere.

 

[Gratemans]

Madiot is a windbag. Plugge has a clumsy way of communicating, but at least he walks the walk.

I know you're a Jumbo fan, but this is way more than 'clumsy'. It's called being a ***. I have nothing against Jumbo, but Plugge is a douche. Always has been. An with this stunt, he is just harming his own team.

Even though Kittel (who stayed at the same hotel) confirmed fdj were drinking beer, why the hell would Plugge criticize put that out in the open? What good does that do Jumbo in any way?

Yes, Madiot is a windbag. And well, the results of his team here speak for themselves. But what Plugge did is petty and irresponsible.

Former journalists taking on team management roles often don't work out btw, in many sports.

 

[Peter von]

Or these riders have a clause in their contract that leaves them free if there isn't a sponsor by August next year, or if they have to take a pay cut.

it's called "if the money doesn't arrive in my bank account before the first of every month, the employer is in severe breach of contract and I am therefore free to look elsewhere"

 

[theyoungest]

I know you're a Jumbo fan, but this is way more than 'clumsy'. It's called being a ***. I have nothing against Jumbo, but Plugge is a douche. Always has been. An with this stunt, he is just harming his own team.

Even though Kittel (who stayed at the same hotel) confirmed fdj were drinking beer, why the hell would Plugge criticize put that out in the open? What good does that do Jumbo in any way?

Yes, Madiot is a windbag. And well, the results of his team here speak for themselves. But what Plugge did is petty and irresponsible.

Former journalists taking on team management roles often don't work out btw, in many sports.

I have said in this thread and elsewhere that I don't necessarily like Plugge. He was a terrible journalist, and communicatively he's still quite weak. In this case, and in the case of the Fred Wright saga, it's just incredibly dumb and bad PR... certainly from a former journalist. But this doesn't mean he's wrong...

And in cycling, basically all major team managers are giant douches. Apparently that's a job requirement. That's why they can never get anything done together, in terms of standing up against ASO or the UCI.

 

[Peter von]

Apparently that's a job requirement

or a marginal gains low hanging fruit.

 

[RedheadDane]

I can see it. Team Lego: let’s play!

Well, one of their biggest riders is Danish, so a Danish sponsor would make sense.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Peter von]

Well, one of their biggest riders is Danish, so a Danish sponsor would make sense.

yeah, they also have a rather international group of riders, so one that serves a more global market makes sense as well. Don't know if LEGO has the interest though, maybe they can come up with some cool cycling related sets.
they kinda-dipped their toes a few years back(privately submitted idea that was rejected, but it got on the website):
https://ideas.lego.com/projects/01522aaa-400b-43fb-abf8-5070420e5577

I would love it the team rode with the OCTAN logo. probably won't happen tho.

nice!
poor guy, though he seems to like it. I hope(and think) they monitor him very closely leading up to the start, they have enough strong riders without two GT's in their legs to turn up with a decent team.

 

[Ricco']

Is Richard Plugge vying for the title of most hated team owner within the peloton?

"His facial expression was priceless" - Richard Plugge recalls telling Patrick Lefevere of Jumbo-Visma's plans to take Roglic & Vingegaard to the Vuelta

For the Jumbo-Visma team, the possibility of claiming a hist

cyclinguptodate.com

 

[Red Rick]

Is Richard Plugge vying for the title of most hated team owner within the peloton?

"His facial expression was priceless" - Richard Plugge recalls telling Patrick Lefevere of Jumbo-Visma's plans to take Roglic & Vingegaard to the Vuelta

For the Jumbo-Visma team, the possibility of claiming a hist

cyclinguptodate.com

Since when is trolling Lefevere a bad thing?