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today finally finished it tho.SoigneurNL said:This might be the most depressing GT TLJ have had a propper GC rider in in years
Dekker_Tifosi said:today finally finished it tho.SoigneurNL said:This might be the most depressing GT TLJ have had a propper GC rider in in years
Wow.
They went into the Giro with no ambition, ended up with Kruijswijk almost winning, probably would have had it with more team support
Then they went in to the Tour with a plan for Groenewegen en Kelderman as free role kinda guy. Kelderman fell and Groenewegen found out that sprinting in the Tour is different. So another plan failed
Then they went to the Vuelta fully committed to Kruijswijk.. And now Kruijswijk got sick before the start and eventually fell out hard today.
LottoNL had made some poor choices but also abysmal luck once again. :lol:
staubsauger said:It's incompetence. After 2015 they must've forced at least ONE out of Gesink or Kelderman to slave for Kruijswijk first at the Giro! Groenenwegen certainly could've won a Tour stage in the matter of Erik Dekker instead of challenging the big guns in the sprints.
That they ever fired Erik Breukink is just hilarious. He must've been the only sports director around at that team with some tactical sense.
sir fly said:I understand the salbutamolgate is the biggest off-season topic, but this one deserves some attention, as well.
Far more entertaining news.
Wonder whether they were sent home 'cause of not sharing with team...
...bet it was some heavy indica.
GenericBoonenFan said:sir fly said:I understand the salbutamolgate is the biggest off-season topic, but this one deserves some attention, as well.
Far more entertaining news.
Wonder whether they were sent home 'cause of not sharing with team...
...bet it was some heavy indica.
I doubt Tolhoek did it fully aware of the consequences. If 3 riders (Including 2 who are on the second year with the squad) don't know the rules, you wonder if they communicated sufficiently about this subject.
staubsauger said:This is probably 10% about non-approved sleeping medication and 90% about the fact they couldn't even awake Lobato and had to call an ambulance. This isn't even a true clinic issue, because it looks more like a case of dependency. You've to take quite a load of Tavor, Zolpidem or Lorazepam to literally narcotize yourself if I'm well informed. At least since the body builds up some tolerance against the pharmaceutical ingredient and won't work as good anymore. Remember the Heath Ledger case? Lobato probably could've killed himself accidentally as well.
(Feel free to move this post into a new clinic topic if it's better placed there moderators.)
On the other hand, if a rider takes strong doses of sleeping pills, he probably has a problem. I would have hoped that the team shows a bit more support than simply firing him. Take Paolini as an example of how big a sleeping problem can get. I hope Lobato can resolve his issues and continue normal cycling pro life without having to seeking refuge in sleep medication.Der Effe said:Lobato is gonna be fired, tomorrow there will be more news about Tolhoek and Eenkhoorn. That's something quite different to how the Murdoch sponsored criminal organisation called Team Sky does business.
PeterB said:On the other hand, if a rider takes strong doses of sleeping pills, he probably has a problem. I would have hoped that the team shows a bit more support than simply firing him. Take Paolini as an example of how big a sleeping problem can get. I hope Lobato can resolve his issues and continue normal cycling pro life without having to seeking refuge in sleep medication.Der Effe said:Lobato is gonna be fired, tomorrow there will be more news about Tolhoek and Eenkhoorn. That's something quite different to how the Murdoch sponsored criminal organisation called Team Sky does business.
PeterB said:On the other hand, if a rider takes strong doses of sleeping pills, he probably has a problem. I would have hoped that the team shows a bit more support than simply firing him. Take Paolini as an example of how big a sleeping problem can get. I hope Lobato can resolve his issues and continue normal cycling pro life without having to seeking refuge in sleep medication.Der Effe said:Lobato is gonna be fired, tomorrow there will be more news about Tolhoek and Eenkhoorn. That's something quite different to how the Murdoch sponsored criminal organisation called Team Sky does business.
Please. Froome is already dangerous enough with his riding style, give him stillnoct and he probably flattens the peloton involuntarilyEl Pistolero said:I heard Sky still has one spot left to fill their team next year.
Wouldn't be too bad.GenericBoonenFan said:It's all a clever plan by Lobato. Gets fired, signs with Euskadi, dominates the spanish .1 calendar, profits...
GenericBoonenFan said:It's all a clever plan by Lobato. Gets fired, signs with Euskadi, dominates the spanish .1 calendar, profits...