• The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to @SHaines here on the forum, or use the Contact Us form to message the Community Team.

    In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.

    Thanks!

Teams & Riders Team Visma - Lease a Bike

Page 92 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
mistake sending laporte up to pog in order to tire VdP.

instead they should have left pog dangling out there on his own for much longer.

VdP totally plays games inside WvA's head.
I don't think Pog would've let himself dangle. You could see how quickly Laporte closed the gap Pog wasn't going full gas.

Jumbo needed to put Van Aert in a spot where Pog and MvdP had to work but Van Hooydonck in a break wasn't it. Let's say you have Laporte instead of Van Hooydonck and Van Aert legit doesn't have to ride with Pog and MvdP, making it pretty unlikely he gets dropped until Kwaremont by Pog if at all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Doopie
I don't think Pog would've let himself dangle. You could see how quickly Laporte closed the gap Pog wasn't going full gas.

Jumbo needed to put Van Aert in a spot where Pog and MvdP had to work but Van Hooydonck in a break wasn't it. Let's say you have Laporte instead of Van Hooydonck and Van Aert legit doesn't have to ride with Pog and MvdP, making it pretty unlikely he gets dropped until Kwaremont by Pog if at all.

you are most likely correct.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Monte Serra
Do you think they would have dominated Pogacar and MvdP today?
No, but that is irrelevant to the point I made.

It's not about absolute athletic ability. It's about how much they predictably dominate, how much they "ruin" the races for the viewers. That was the complaint about Jumbo here, but they are not the dominant force some make them out to be.
 
No, but that is irrelevant to the point I made.

It's not about absolute athletic ability. It's about how much they predictably dominate, how much they "ruin" the races for the viewers. That was the complaint about Jumbo here, but they are not the dominant force some make them out to be.
Fair enough.

It's a weird situation with the 3 main Ronde favorites skipping most of the Belgian classics. I guess DDV, Omloop and KBK being the ones that had none of Van Aert, Pog, and MvdP are the ones where the other teams simply should have done better as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan
Fair enough.

It's a weird situation with the 3 main Ronde favorites skipping most of the Belgian classics. I guess DDV, Omloop and KBK being the ones that had none of Van Aert, Pog, and MvdP are the ones where the other teams simply should have done better as well.
Last year was even worse in that regard, as Pogi and MvdP only raced Dwars, not E3. So we didn't have a single Flemish classic with Van Aert against either of them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan
I can't say I have been carefully tracking every team in every major race throughout history but today's tactics must be one of the worst examples of wasting team strength I have ever seen.
The worrying thing is Van Aert saying the situation was good for the team just before Pogacar took off on 2nd Kwaremont. It only confirms Jumbo had very different assumptions about how the race should unfold and they got it very wrong.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan
Benoot was a completely nonshow. Laporte did what was expected, we knew he was nowhere near those three and it would be a matter of time before getting dropped. They needed those two in the group, not Nathan. If that was the case the situation is suddenly really good, especially since Wout needed to basically just sit on Mathieu and Pogacar to have a chance today and that could have been an important alibi.

Van Hoydonck in that group is close ot useless. They needed Van Baarle today to mark that move
 
  • Like
Reactions: tobydawq