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[Rou]

Because 5 days in Valencia is the same as 5 days in Monuments.

No, but some Valencian stages are harder than San Remo.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Yes, yes, we know.
Pogacar does Flanders and is equal to 10 race days for Vingegaard, right?
I'm curious how did Merckx do 80+ race days including Monuments and 2 GTs per year and was competitive all the time.
Option A: He was racing against plumbers.
Option B: Pogacar's endurance is overrated and that's why he races so little.
I think both options are somewhat true.

Everybody raced the same schedule during Merckx’s time. Pogacar has to race people who only specifically peak for those specific monuments or grand tours in MVDP, Evenepoel, and Vingegaard. The racing environment isn’t remotely the same across the two eras.

 

[Netserk]

Everybody raced the same schedule during Merckx’s time. Pogacar has to race people who only specifically peak for those specific monuments or grand tours in MVDP, Evenepoel, and Vingegaard. The racing environment isn’t remotely the same across the two eras.

vingegaard also had to race against different riders in tour and vuelta

gall was the only other rider from the top10 of the tour to start the vuelta

 

[Netserk]

his limited racing in the spring was because he crashed out of pn while leading the race, then sidelined from a concussion

but thats what only focussing on the tour looks like

 

[red_flanders]

No, but some Valencian stages are harder than San Remo.

San Remo is literally twice the length of the average Valencia stage. That's not nuthin'. They're just really different efforts.

But all that is an aside. The only think you could really critique Vingo about is the fact that he doesn't ride big one-day races. He's absolutely a different kind of rider, and I think clearly a less complete rider. For a guy who favors classics like I do, it makes him a less appealing rider than Pogi, but...it's really a matter of preference. Some folks love stage racing, and for them I would assume Vingo is one of the top 2 riders in the world.

Criticizing riders because they're not doing everything one of the best two riders to ever exist...well it's easy picking but it's kinda pointless. Everyone falls short.

 

[Cycling111]

It's been explained a thousand times.

Races must be measured by the demands and intensity of training, not days.

Pogacar can win one-week races at 70% of his peak form, but he has to race Roubaix at 100% of his peak form. For those stage races, he can train more gradually; for Roubaix, he has to be at maximum intensity. The training sessions to Roubaix are much more demanding and exhausting.

And it's not just the physical aspect; mentally, racing Roubaix or a WC is completely different from Valencia or Tirreno.

Anyone who refuses to understand will continue to say that Pogacar only races five days before Romandie and that Remco, for example, has put in more effort between the Mallorca and Valencia .1 races because are more days.
We can use Pogacar as an example comparing his races. Pogacar had to train less and exert himself less to win Catalunya in five days than in one day for Roubaix.

It can't be explained any further. He's explained it himself. Anyone who wants to keep saying that his spring scheuddel is less demanding than Vingegaard's or other cyclists who race one-week races
only taking into account a day counter they´ll never understand.

 

[Cycling111]

5 today for the Muscat Classic
7 from tomorrow

The list has been confirmed, and it includes the five riders who started today in the Muscat Classic.

Zingle and one other rider out.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019783574765944893

View: https://x.com/vismaleaseabike/status/2019783574765944893?s=20

 

[Berniece]

It's been explained a thousand times.

Races must be measured by the demands and intensity of training, not days.

Pogacar can win one-week races at 70% of his peak form, but he has to race Roubaix at 100% of his peak form. For those stage races, he can train more gradually; for Roubaix, he has to be at maximum intensity. The training sessions to Roubaix are much more demanding and exhausting.

And it's not just the physical aspect; mentally, racing Roubaix or a WC is completely different from Valencia or Tirreno.

Anyone who refuses to understand will continue to say that Pogacar only races five days before Romandie and that Remco, for example, has put in more effort between the Mallorca and Valencia .1 races because are more days.
We can use Pogacar as an example comparing his races. Pogacar had to train less and exert himself less to win Catalunya in five days than in one day for Roubaix.

It can't be explained any further. He's explained it himself. Anyone who wants to keep saying that his spring scheuddel is less demanding than Vingegaard's or other cyclists who race one-week races
only taking into account a day counter they´ll never understand.

Pogacar isn’t the only one peaking towards a goal.