Teams with the most wins for the 2012 Season!

[El Pistolero]

I know he had a lot, but don't know the total number. So tell.

edit: Ok, so I overstated it. The great Wiki says he got 16 wins in '11. You got me!

He had 19 wins last year.

Stage in Algarve, Montepaschi Strade Bianche, stage in T-A, Brabantse Pijl, AGR, FW, LBL, stage and GC in Tour of Belgium, Gullegem Koerse, stage and GC in Ster ZLM Toer, Belgian national road race championship, stage in the Tour, Clasica San Sebastian, stage in the Eneco Tour, Belgian national time trial championship, GP de Quebec and GP de Wallonie.

 

[El Pistolero]

Aren't you making the huge assumption that Gilbert will have the same, amazing season in 2012, that he had in 2011?
Don't you think it highly unlikely that he will get the same amount of wins?

Bottom line: BMC's "new" big 4 managed 31 wins, but what did the rest accomplish?
Sky's top 4 only managed 27 wins, but a whole raft of other riders had 1-3 wins apiece.

Aren't you making the huge assumption that Cavendish will have the same, amazing season in 2012, that he had in 2011? Don't you think it's highly unlikely that the flat blog will get what's coming to him sooner or later?

Now Cav is at Sky, all will have to work for him reducing the amount of some of their smaller wins.

Bottom line: this thread is all about making assumptions, so yeah, we're making assumptions

 

[Kvinto]

I still think Cancellara is stronger than Boonen. But who knows. Plus his team is much weaker than Boonen's.

Of course QS is always strong on cobbles, but as for Cancellara's support being weak i must say it's definitely not about Radioshack-Nissan 2012. This year they can field something like:
Cancellara, Rast, Roulston, Popovych, Posthuma, Wagner, Sergent, Oliveira wich is much better than Leopard 2011.

 

[El Pistolero]

Don't be ridiculous. There is a world of difference between 5 riders merely refusing to help chase, and between every single rider in the peloton doing nothing else but trying to bring back Cancellara.

So you're saying Gilbert did nothing except bring Cancellara back? And with Gilbert also comes Ballan.

 

[will10]

Of course QS is always strong on cobbles, but as for Cancellara's support being weak i must say it's definitely not about Radioshack-Nissan 2012. This year they can field something like:
Cancellara, Rast, Roulston, Popovych, Posthuma, Wagner, Sergent, Oliveira wich is much better than Leopard 2011.

Out of those who's gonna be with him at 20km to go? No-one.

 

[El Pistolero]

Of course QS is always strong on cobbles, but as for Cancellara's support being weak i must say it's definitely not about Radioshack-Nissan 2012. This year they can field something like:
Cancellara, Rast, Roulston, Popovych, Posthuma, Wagner, Sergent, Oliveira wich is much better than Leopard 2011.

That's one crappy team. Most of these have never done anything in the cobbled classics. Oliwhatthehellishedoingthereeria? Sergentwhonow?Popovycyoukiddingright? Posthumalolcomeonnow? Wagnerdoyoumeantheactorbecausethecyclistwontdo****?

 

[Kvinto]

Out of those who's gonna be with him at 20km to go? No-one.

hahaha, for instance Rast and Roulston both top-10 last Roubaix, while the others (especially Popovich) are pretty good cobbled domestiques (i have some little doubts about Oliveira only)

edit: Roulston top-10 Roubaix 2010 not 2011, my bad

 

[Kvinto]

That's one crappy team. Most of these have never done anything in the cobbled classics. Oliwhatthehellishedoingthereeria? Sergentwhonow?Popovycyoukiddingright? Posthumalolcomeonnow? Wagnerdoyoumeantheactorbecausethecyclistwontdo****?

have i said it is a cobbled dreamteam? what i said is that this team is not weak ie stronger than in 2011

 

[The Hitch]

My turn to put yet another team forward. lampre. Malori and euleses maybe a few wins. scarponi to dominate italian season ale jet to get a few they have winner (of tour lav) and niemiec might be given some races after finishing a monument in the group of basso martin and j rod.

 

[Der Effe]

Team Rupert Murdoch

 

[Froome19]

Aren't you making the huge assumption that Cavendish will have the same, amazing season in 2012, that he had in 2011? Don't you think it's highly unlikely that the flat blog will get what's coming to him sooner or later?

Now Cav is at Sky, all will have to work for him reducing the amount of some of their smaller wins.

Bottom line: this thread is all about making assumptions, so yeah, we're making assumptions

Cav's 2011 season though impressive had the potential to be much better he could have even racked up close to sagan/ kittel's amount if he had been on target and not unlucky in the first half of the season
& he will be able to get much more wins in the giro this year as he was the best sprinter there last year and would have gotten more stage wins if not for the ridiculous parcours.
thus in term of wins I would be very suprised if cav does not better his 2011 wins

 

[The Hitch]

Aren't you making the huge assumption that Gilbert will have the same, amazing season in 2012, that he had in 2011?
Don't you think it highly unlikely that he will get the same amount of wins?

Bottom line: BMC's "new" big 4 managed 31 wins, but what did the rest accomplish?
Sky's top 4 only managed 27 wins, but a whole raft of other riders had 1-3 wins apiece.

Cav ebh and who are the other 2? wiggins had a great season and lots of podiums but dauphine both nats and a tt somewhere, what else as far as wins?

 

[maltiv]

Cav ebh and who are the other 2? wiggins had a great season and lots of podiums but dauphine both nats and a tt somewhere, what else as far as wins?

Ben Swift and Henao will get a decent amount of victories each I think.

 

[Froome19]

Ben Swift and Henao will get a decent amount of victories each I think.

think there's a chance he may be riding the olympics on the track which would be a shame but we'll see as chances are he won't make the pursuit team and so won't be able to ride the omnium (which he wants to as defending champion ed clancy said he is pulling out) as have to ride pursuit to ride omnium

 

[will10]

2007 - 11 wins
2008 - 17 wins (inc. 6 GT stage wins)
2009 - 23 wins (inc. MSR & 9 GT stage wins)
2010 - 11 wins (inc. 8 GT stages wins & Vuelta points jersey)
2011 - 13 wins (inc. 7 GT stage wins, TdF points jersey & World RR)

Maybe it's just me but I don't see a downward trend.

 

[will10]

think there's a chance he may be riding the olympics on the track which would be a shame but we'll see as chances are he won't make the pursuit team and so won't be able to ride the omnium (which he wants to as defending champion ed clancy said he is pulling out) as have to ride pursuit to ride omnium

World champion perhaps but not defending Olympic champion, as there isn't one (yet)

 

[Ryaguas]

Cav's 2011 season though impressive had the potential to be much better he could have even racked up close to sagan/ kittel's amount if he had been on target and not unlucky in the first half of the season
& he will be able to get much more wins in the giro this year as he was the best sprinter there last year and would have gotten more stage wins if not for the ridiculous parcours.
thus in term of wins I would be very suprised if cav does not better his 2011 wins

What? Ridiculous parcours...? WTF? You dont love cyling, do you?

 

[Ryaguas]

My turn to put yet another team forward. lampre. Malori and euleses maybe a few wins. scarponi to dominate italian season ale jet to get a few they have winner (of tour lav) and niemiec might be given some races after finishing a monument in the group of basso martin and j rod.

Lampre huh? maybe is a good call but I dont think that Michele will go too hard in the other races, He did that and peaked too soon (although he found another peak in Il Giro in the last week) and this year the objective is the same WIN Il Giro (that is more possible without Contador riding it)... I think that Michele could take 2 or 3 stages in Il Giro, then 2 in La Vuelta and rack 2 wins besides Lombardia in the classics of the fallen leaves... that would be a helluvah season tho... that without counting wins in "minor" stages races...

 

[Froome19]

What? Ridiculous parcours...? WTF? You dont love cyling, do you?

I meant ridiculously hard parcours. which it was no doubt
imo a parcours like last years giro is much better than one like this years tour

 

[Ryaguas]

I meant ridiculously hard parcours. which it was no doubt
imo a parcours like last years giro is much better than one like this years tour

Do you remember Zomegnan's words when Ulissi won in the third week? "A youngster winning in the third week? mmm maybe Il Giro is not hard enough"

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Maybe I should have rephrased the sentence. But liquigas don't have much of a chance. The only rider who can constantly get wins is Sagan.

In 2011 liquigas has 24 wins.Your beloved bmc won the tour de france but how many wins did they have.

 

[Froome19]

In 2011 liquigas has 24 wins.Your beloved bmc won the tour de france but how many wins did they have.

tbh 3/4 of those were from sagan

 

[Zam_Olyas]

tbh 3/4 of those were from sagan

elia viviani says hello

 

[Ryaguas]

In 2011 liquigas has 24 wins.Your beloved bmc won the tour de france but how many wins did they have.

elia viviani says hello

Zam is on the offense!

I think that Liquigas will take some wins but wont pass the 35...

 

[Angliru]

Yep, maybe the biggest fail in Samu's career, so far he can't explain that moment himself...

He got overly excited to be sprinting against Andy and started his sprint too soon, according to what I recall Samu saying. Still hurts me to this day that he didn't get that win, probably more so that he lost it to Andy.