Teflon dopers

[Walkman]

I don't think anyone doubts Indurain was a heavy user. The guy use to be the measurement for the EPO introduction in the peloton...

 

[hrotha]

1. Dodgers
2. Luisle
3. Klödi

 

[Beech Mtn]

Vicioso... good call. How he still has a clean slate I have no idea.

Not only that, but he totally perjured himself in the latest Puerto hearings (after Eki forced him to stop his attempts to skip out on testifying, no less), and nothing came of the perjury, 'cause the judge seems not to have enforced it for anyone, despite the prosecution types trying to make that happen.

 

[thehog]

Jens. Teflon doper for his attitude and blantent pretending he never doped.

 

[masking_agent]

cycling: cancellara

non cycling: Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps..

 

[movingtarget]

Again, people fail to grasp the concept (nay, the true beauty) of the teflon doper. It's not just a doper who doesn't get caught.

I understand now. Kloeden has to be high on the list, Menchov. I always wondered about Cunego. Wins the Giro at 22 and various classics and then nothing. A long time since he has had a good win and I don't think it's just ageing. Not many riders win a GT and never podium another one. Cobo ? Perreiro for different reasons. Maybe Damiano saw the error of his ways ?

 

[DirtyWorks]

1. Dodgers
2. Luisle
3. Klödi

Just summarizing the thread to date, no particular order.

Hincapie
Popovych
Froome

Horner belongs on the list. The guy even posts crazy-suspicious values like he's on "pan y agua."

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Sir Bradley Wiggins
Rob Hayles

 

[hfer07]

Menchov never got popped - even with the germany scandal & the Rabo blow up he managed to win GTs, races & retired quietly.

That to my is Teflon World Class level

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Correct. Not any rider can be a Teflon doper. It's a prestigious honour that only the best can receive. It's not enough to dope and not get caught. You must act and behave if nothing has actually occurred and make murmurings about clean cycling. But you must keep performing with obscene results despite the doping scandals one managed to dodge.

Popo is a surviving Teflon doper. How that guy has never been suspended defies belief. He's good!

By that definition, Horner is the teflon doper.
Given his interviews about LA (there is no doping, if no positive), and that he never saw something, yet being active in the darkest era w/o being caught (yet), having the "guts" to show his "cleaniness" by publishing a dodgy passport, coming up with absurd results at an absurd age, dodging from testers (again having "guts" to blame the testers for his wrongdoings), hiding behind fake injuries (no I don´t mean the very latest) to have quietness for his doping program... and going trou all major scandals in cycling since and inclusive Festina unharmed. That´s special.

 

[Nathan12]

Cipollini.

 

[blackcat]

Sir Bradley Wiggins
Rob Hayles

rob hayles is now cav's beeyitch aint he. like the personal assistant, gopher gofer go for go fetch my sheeyit you too high crit beeyitch.

for someone with such an over inflated hematocrit he makes an excellent personal assistant beeyitch come Motoman for Cav.

 

[blackcat]

menchov
leon luis sanchez
rogers
kloden
cipo
horner
wiggo
froome dawg
brajkovich
ballan


we are compiling quite the peloton

#NOT NORMAL

 

[Nathan12]

menchov
leon luis sanchez
rogers
kloden
cipo
horner
wiggo
froome dawg
brajkovich
ballan


we are compiling quite the peloton

#NOT NORMAL

Ballan does not belong with the Teflons. Neither, for all his faults and level of suspicion, does Froome.

 

[scholar]

What about Riis? Or, for that matter, Pantani?

And at least an honourable mention for Swiss Tony.

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Zubeldia springs to mind as well

 

[Tinman]

Levy. Obviously quickly slipped out of sight - here also.

 

[del1962]

Levy. Obviously quickly slipped out of sight - here also.

Can you really put Levi in the list since he has confessed and had a ban?

Rider 15 (whoever that is)
Kloden, Menchov & Rogers
Vicosio
Some classicmano Tyler may have mentioned
Lulu (he seems to have seen of last years investigation)

 

[86TDFWinner]

How about Indurain? Even though he tested positive and is linked to a doping doctor, he is still known as the last cleans multiple tour winner, gets paraded around France, etc.

Yeah, Big Mig & how he's not been seriously investigated, has always escaped me too, as to why/how he hasn't been busted. What positive(s) are you talking about btw?(I honestly do not know).

I think Miggy is a doper, that's MY personal opinion. Regardless of the SOL, I think they at least need to maybe re-examine him.

 

[blackcat]

Ballan does not belong with the Teflons. Neither, for all his faults and level of suspicion, does Froome.

 

[DirtyWorks]

What about Riis? Or, for that matter, Pantani?

And at least an honourable mention for Swiss Tony.

Yes, but I'd argue there wasn't a test to defeat for those athletes. That was a really different time. If you think anti-doping is shrouded in secrecy now (it is), then that era was 100 times more secretive.

I'd argue the same for Indurain.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Just summarizing the thread to date, no particular order.
1. Dodgers
2. Luisle
3. Klödi
Hincapie
Popovych
Froome
Horner
Levi

Ryder is the epitome of "never tested positive."

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Was going to say, you could probably mention Hesjedal in here. Rui Sousa, definitely. How about Kolobnev?

 

[BigMac]

Was going to say, you could probably mention Hesjedal in here. Rui Sousa, definitely. How about Kolobnev?

Certainly not anymore. Now he is also president of a parish council somewhere. No time for that.

 

[blackcat]

Certainly not anymore. Now he is also president of a parish council somewhere. No time for that.

serious? cant be

i remember mondrisio when he and sparticus animated that race with Steve Cozza for fricken sake. How does Cozza animate the worlds rr. I suppose like how Barry animates Hamilton like Pixar or Dreamworx. how did Evans win? he won clean as a teflon frying pan