Teflon dopers

[roundabout]

Must have taken those super secret area 51 Sky peds with him

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Looks like Rogers is ready to pace the Tinkoff train at the tour.

lol.

 

[SeriousSam]

looking forward to the aussie showdown of ultra domestiques at the tour: rogers vs porte

 

[Netserk]

Di Luca signs late with Fantini last year, have two race days before the Giro, makes a few attacks and are decent, but nowhere near what he used to be and gets shiitstorm everywhere that he is oh sooo shady.

Rogers gets back from a suspension, only rides Liege before the Giro, wins two stages and are very strong almost as good as ever, and he gets absolutely nothing.

 

[the sceptic]

Di Luca signs late with Fantini last year, have two race days before the Giro, makes a few attacks and are decent, but nowhere near what he used to be and gets shiitstorm everywhere that he is oh sooo shady.

Rogers gets back from a suspension, only rides Liege before the Giro, wins two stages and are very strong almost as good as ever, and he gets absolutely nothing.

Rogers is a good doper. Rode for some cleans teams over the years, also only tested positive only once. And he speaks english.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Cycling central commentators: Rogers had a very long off-season, and he's come back as strong as ever, you should have a longer off-season again, Mick!!

el oh el

 

[blackcat]

Cycling central commentators: Rogers had a very long off-season, and he's come back as strong as ever, you should have a longer off-season again, Mick!!

el oh el

thats the el mariachi lol innit

heads up homage to phonics from moregloriousthanhookersandblow aka mgthab


i like how micky T starts on how the peloton is much cleaner now, at the start of the friday night stage. it may have been the zoncolan or whatever it is called, but i remember him saying it b4 the start of the tt stage.

these commentators have no shame

oh, and i expected Keenan to remember the stage (i think it was dHuez not sure tho) in about 2003 when Triki Beltran have moved from Coast to Bianchi to USPS, and he went au bloc from the bottom and even had a gap to Armstrong and Heras.

movistar did the same thing last night.

 

[blackcat]

 

[movingtarget]

In the next couple of years you can include assorted Colombians as well.

 

[hrotha]

In the next couple of years you can include assorted Colombians as well.

Again, people fail to grasp the concept (nay, the true beauty) of the teflon doper. It's not just a doper who doesn't get caught.

 

[blackcat]

Again, people fail to grasp the concept (nay, the true beauty) of the teflon doper. It's not just a doper who doesn't get caught.

a teflon doper, is not any doper.

he transcends the term doper. hes teflon.

i love the euphemism. like The Clinic 12.

teflon dopers = NOT NORMAL

 

[thehog]

Again, people fail to grasp the concept (nay, the true beauty) of the teflon doper. It's not just a doper who doesn't get caught.

Correct. Not any rider can be a Teflon doper. It's a prestigious honour that only the best can receive. It's not enough to dope and not get caught. You must act and behave if nothing has actually occurred and make murmurings about clean cycling. But you must keep performing with obscene results despite the doping scandals one managed to dodge.

Popo is a surviving Teflon doper. How that guy has never been suspended defies belief. He's good!

 

[blackcat]

what is the podium for the Tour de Teflon Doper ?

1. Popo
2. Rogers
3 ??? Classicomano?(sparticus), what about, Allessandro Ballan? has Ballan actually been banned

 

[Fagniniwins]

what is the podium for the Tour de Teflon Doper ?

1. Popo
2. Rogers
3 ??? Classicomano?(sparticus), what about, Allessandro Ballan? has Ballan actually been banned

Depends. The team-leader types that win smaller races but never quite pull off a big one (Brajkovic) are in a different category than the Teflon domestiques like Popovych and Rogers, who typically receive less scrutiny from media and IC antidoping.

I do admit feeling a tinge of pleasure when something keeps any of them from affecting the race in any meaningful way, like Popovych's crash in de Ronde ( which Cancellara won without him anyway).

Klöden should have some sort of special combativity award with its own jersey and podium presentation for his slickness, though.

 

[blackcat]

Depends. The team-leader types that win smaller races but never quite pull off a big one (Brajkovic) are in a different category than the Teflon domestiques like Popovych and Rogers, who typically receive less scrutiny from media and IC antidoping.

I do admit feeling a tinge of pleasure when something keeps any of them from affecting the race in any meaningful way, like Popovych's crash in de Ronde ( which Cancellara won without him anyway).

Klöden should have some sort of special combativity award with its own jersey and podium presentation for his slickness, though.

Klodi, or Hildie as he is affectionately known, rounds out the podium

the innaugural Tour de Teflon dopers, =

1.Popo
2. Rogers
3. Klodi

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Apart from a pretty good Paris-Nice in 2008 and a decent Giro in 2009, Popovych has been awful since the collapse of Discovery
Is it really teflon doping when you crawl under a rock and stay there?
Quite different from Rogers and Kloden who kept going strong

 

[blackcat]

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Klödi is the patron saint of Teflon. Ballan has done well for himself on this front but not as well as Rogers. It's about riders who have managed to get named and shamed, are involved in various nefarious schemes and who there is more than enough reasonable doubt without even recourse to the speculative theories of the Clinic, yet either continue to ride with nothing against their name or manage to somehow escape bans or with heavily reduced bans that aren't held against them and continue to ride up at the top level. Guys like Plaza and Zaballa managed to not get banned in Puerto, but had to drop a level (temporarily in Plaza's case). Not quite Teflon but close. João Cabreira managed to avoid the hit in the LA-MSS case by tampering with his samples, then got a ban for that which was mindblowingly overturned despite a mountain of evidence against him, and when this was overturned on appeal his ban was heavily reduced and he was back riding before it was supposed to have ended had he taken the original sentence anyway. Good work, João.

However, riders like Rogers, Klöden, Popo and until recently Phil Zajicek are the gold standard here. They continued riding with nothing against their name for years after they were known to be dirty, and still getting embroiled in things.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Menchov deserves an honorable mention for his ability to shyly and quietly fly under the radar. I keep forgetting he's actually retired.

 

[blackcat]

yep, we are getting a nice peloton now, not just a podium, of teflon dopers. soon we will be able to mine it for teflon

 

[the sceptic]

What about Gilberto Simoni?

Gilberto Simoni, 2001 Giro d'Italia winner who was shamed into abandoning this year's Giro after a positive test for cocaine has been competely cleared by the Caf (Commissione d'appello federale / Federal Appeals Commission) today in Rome, Italy. After Simoni's positive for cocaine in a suprise, out of competition test by the WADA just prior to the Giro d'Italia late April, plus another for cocaine during the Giro d'Italia, the Italian Olympic Comittee (CONI) Antidoping Prosecutor opened an investigation on Simoni. The Caf found that "the will of the athlete to take this substance (cocaine) was non-existent"

 

[del1962]

What about Gilberto Simoni?

Is this what the secret pro was on about

I’ve heard of many stories in the past where bags get mixed up. A rider [ed. name redacted] who was done for cocaine in the Giro a few years back tested positive because he’d been using his cousin’s blood. He didn’t know he had a coke habit until it showed up in his test results after he won a race.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/04/the-secret-pro-4/

 

[mortand]

What about Gilberto Simoni?

Not entirely teflon, though, seeing he actually got kicked out of the race as reigning champion and main favorite. That he somehow got off the hook later on, is kinda fascinating. Semi-teflon, perhaps?

Angel Vicioso earns a place in the teflon-roster. A who's who of dodgy team representation and a remark in the Operacion Puerto list, and somehow he slipped off the dope radar.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Vicioso... good call. How he still has a clean slate I have no idea.

 

[the sceptic]

Not entirely teflon, though, seeing he actually got kicked out of the race as reigning champion and main favorite. That he somehow got off the hook later on, is kinda fascinating. Semi-teflon, perhaps?

Angel Vicioso earns a place in the teflon-roster. A who's who of dodgy team representation and a remark in the Operacion Puerto list, and somehow he slipped off the dope radar.

Its impressive how he got away with it though. First he tried to blame it on dental care, but when that didnt work he claimed the cocaine was in candy that his aunt had imported from Brazil. And amazingly it worked.

How about Indurain? Even though he tested positive and is linked to a doping doctor, he is still known as the last cleans multiple tour winner, gets paraded around France, etc.