Teflon dopers

[hrotha]

Cadel Evans and Samuel Sanchez, too.

The fact that they don't even have solid hearsay on their names suggest they're pretty much the complete opposite of teflon dopers*. They've had nothing to stick to them.

Popo is a good choice though.

*Ok, I guess the complete opposite would be a clean rider who keeps getting involved in doping scandals.

 

[scullster46]

Some names that weren't mentioned yet

Vlad Karpets
Carlos Barredo(not as many links to doping, but was a 10 on suspicion list)
Nibali
Marzio Bruseghin

 

[Race Radio]

The fact that they don't even have solid hearsay on their names suggest they're pretty much the complete opposite of teflon dopers*. They've had nothing to stick to them.

Popo is a good choice though.

*Ok, I guess the complete opposite would be a clean rider who keeps getting involved in doping scandals.

Nothing on Cadel? Really?

Worked with Ferrari and consistently rode on the dirtiest teams in the sport. Mapei, Seaco, T-Mobile, BMC

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

The fact that they don't even have solid hearsay on their names suggest they're pretty much the complete opposite of teflon dopers*. They've had nothing to stick to them.

Popo is a good choice though.

*Ok, I guess the complete opposite would be a clean rider who keeps getting involved in doping scandals.

I responded to a poster who apparently felt the need to point out that J-Rod had a surprisingly stress-free career. Why single him out? If anything, Evans and Sanchez' stress-free careers are more "surprising" given the fact that they were already top riders when doping was more prevalent, as we are supposed to believe. Rodriguez has only been a top rider since 2010. Sanchez and Evans... 2006.

 

[El Pistolero]

I responded to a poster who apparently felt the need to point out that J-Rod had a surprisingly stress-free career. Why single him out? If anything, Evans and Sanchez' stress-free careers are more "surprising" given the fact that they were already top riders when doping was more prevalent, as we are supposed to believe. Rodriguez has only been a top rider since 2010. Sanchez and Evans... 2006.

Rodriguez: since 2009.

Unless you think second at LBL and third at the Worlds isn't top.

 

[hrotha]

Nothing on Cadel? Really?

Worked with Ferrari and consistently rode on the dirtiest teams in the sport. Mapei, Seaco, T-Mobile, BMC

The string of dirty teams is not enough in my book, as that applies to everyone in his generation. The Ferrari thing is similar, and at any rate there was never a scandal or an investigation, so there was nothing trying to stick to Evans but failing to do so because of his teflon coating. He didn't walk out of it leaving you there, dumbfounded and amazed he managed to escape unscathed. That's what puts Klödi, Contador, Armstrong and others in a different league altogether.

 

[Angliru]

He never received a ban as far as I know. He merely had his winning result annulled.

I think he received a 3-6 month ban. His transgression happened long before the longer sentences were implemented. So long ago that many people weren't even aware of it occurring at all. They think/thought that he was skating by like Polly Purebread his entire career.

 

[thehog]

From memory Virenque only got 6 months - he even rode the 1999 Tour with Polti did he not - a bit of Teflon going on there. I think Zulle may have only got 3 months?

 

[roundabout]

That was a different time. Not sure who was it that first got a 2 year ban.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

I responded to a poster who apparently felt the need to point out that J-Rod had a surprisingly stress-free career. Why single him out? If anything, Evans and Sanchez' stress-free careers are more "surprising" given the fact that they were already top riders when doping was more prevalent, as we are supposed to believe. Rodriguez has only been a top rider since 2010. Sanchez and Evans... 2006.

I didn't really single Purito out - mentioned him partly because he hadn't been mentioned thus far and partly because imo he has done pretty well to avoid major scandal considering he's a top climber having ridden for Once (Puerto link?), Saunier Duval, Caisse D and Katusha

 

[Benotti69]

From memory Virenque only got 6 months - he even rode the 1999 Tour with Polti did he not - a bit of Teflon going on there. I think Zulle may have only got 3 months?

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/sports/plus-cycling-virenque-s-ban-is-shortened.html

Richard Virenque's nine-month ban for taking performance-enhancing drugs during the 1998 Tour de France was upheld yesterday but will end two months early.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport in Geneva said the ban would end Aug. 14 instead of Oct. 30, meaning he will miss this year's Tour de France.

The court cited the gravity of his offense. But Matthieu Reeb, secretary general of the court, told The Associated Press that Virenque, a 31-year-old Frenchman, had begun serving his suspension before the start of his ban in February.

The court also took into consideration the one-month suspension imposed in February 1999 by Polti, Virenque's employers at the time.

Virenque was part of the Festina team, which was ejected from the 1998 Tour after a stash of illicit products, including the performance-enhancing EPO, was found in a team car. In December Virenque was cleared by a French court of charges that he helped supply drugs to his Festina teammates in the Tour de France. He had persistently denied having used banned substances until the trial.

 

[thehog]

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/sports/plus-cycling-virenque-s-ban-is-shortened.html

Thanking-you.

 

[craig1985]

I agree. You can't be a normal run of the mill doper you have to embroiled in at least 2 to 3 major doping scandles. Klodi takes the cake and even had the audacity to point fingers at the media for concentrating too much on doping. Major Teflon doper.

And Klödi paid some money to make an investigation go away in Germany. Not even Lance can do that!

 

[thehog]

And Klödi paid some money to make an investigation go away in Germany. Not even Lance can do that!

.......and it was only 30k! Chump change. Ullrich paid 250 & is still wrapped up in legal proceedings.

 

[L'arriviste]

From memory Virenque only got 6 months - he even rode the 1999 Tour with Polti did he not - a bit of Teflon going on there. I think Zulle may have only got 3 months?

Polti also suspended Virenque for one month (shock horror)

Zulle was also not sanctioned for a 1993 positive test for Salbutamol due presumably to the ongoing uncertainties surrounding that substance at the time.

 

[thehog]

Polti also suspended Virenque for one month (shock horror)

Zulle was also not sanctioned for a 1993 positive test for Salbutamol due presumably to the ongoing uncertainties surrounding that substance at the time.

.....and in Febuaray mind you! Middle of the race season

 

[craig1985]

Can Denis Menchov count as a teflon doper? He was strongly linked to the Humanplasma saga in Vienna and won the '09 Giro and being able to follow the attacks of a CERA - fueled Danilo Di Luca and on stage 16 was able to follow and counter attack to gain some more time. Come the Tour that year after the Humanplasma story broke he sucked major hard. I know he crashed a few times, but this is the same guy who can crash while attacking uphill!

 

[Cloxxki]

Can Denis Menchov count as a teflon doper? He was strongly linked to the Humanplasma saga in Vienna and won the '09 Giro and being able to follow the attacks of a CERA - fueled Danilo Di Luca and on stage 16 was able to follow and counter attack to gain some more time. Come the Tour that year after the Humanplasma story broke he sucked major hard. I know he crashed a few times, but this is the same guy who can crash while attacking uphill!

Michael Weiss was a teflon doper, also a Human Plasma customer. He was recently sentenced. Didn't lose a single result I think.
But whether The Russians are as interested in a long forgotten affair...?

 

[thehog]

Can Denis Menchov count as a teflon doper? He was strongly linked to the Humanplasma saga in Vienna and won the '09 Giro and being able to follow the attacks of a CERA - fueled Danilo Di Luca and on stage 16 was able to follow and counter attack to gain some more time. Come the Tour that year after the Humanplasma story broke he sucked major hard. I know he crashed a few times, but this is the same guy who can crash while attacking uphill!

I'd now add Froome to this list. No way he's getting caught. Unless he leaves Sky.

 

[thehog]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-request-doping-procedure-against-carlos-barredo

How does Popo not get snared?

The UCI has formally requested a disciplinary proceedings to be opened against Carlos Barredo of the Rabobank team for apparent violations of the Anti-Doping Rules on the basis of the information provided by the blood profile in his biological passport.

The UCI issued a statement saying it has informed all the parties concerned: Barredo, Spain's Consejo Superior de Deportes, the Rabobank Cycling Team and the World Anti-Doping Agency. The UCI reiterated Barredo’s right to the presumption of innocence until a final decision has been made on this matter and said they would not provide any additional information.

The 31 year-old Spaniard has not competed since the Critérium du Dauphiné in June, with Robabank announcing he would not race while he and team tried to explain unusual variations in his biological passport data. That process has apparently ended, with the UCI believing that Barredo has a case to answer.

Along with Yaroslav Popovych, Barredo topped a UCI list which ranked competitors at the 2010 Tour de France according to suspicions of blood doping based on biological passport data, a document leaked by L’Equipe in May of last year. The two scored 10 out 10 on the UCI's "index of suspicion."

 

[thehog]

Top 3 Teflons have to be Hincapie, Kloden, and Levi.

Klodi and Levi now retired still with Teflon wrapped around them.

Hincapie must now take the cake. He's still profiting from his name even after his wee little admission.

In saying that Kloden was never suspended.

 

[the sceptic]

Indurain getting honoured at the tour this year

Hesjedal for riding on a lot of dirty teams and then learning how to win clean at Garmin

Voigt probably the guy in the peloton that annoys me the most. gtfo and retire already

Wiggins about to retire with a knighthood after the most obvious donkey-racehorse-donkey transformation ever

 

[Benotti69]

Indurain getting honoured at the tour this year

Well Indurain was popped. Indurain tested positive at the 1994 Tour de l'Oise. Salbutamol was banned in France at the time but had not yet found its way onto the UCI's banned list. Indurain was not sanctioned.

Dutch broadcaster NOS quoted Italian investigator Sandro Donati who claimed that Banesto riders were involved with Conconi and another source corroborated the story.

Hesjedal for riding on a lot of dirty teams and then learning how to win clean at Garmin

Love the sarcasm of 'clean garmin'

Voigt probably the guy in the peloton that annoys me the most. gtfo and retire already

agreed GTFO.

Wiggins about to retire with a knighthood after the most obvious donkey-racehorse-donkey transformation ever

Wigans would not be missed.

 

[the sceptic]

Well Indurain was popped. Indurain tested positive at the 1994 Tour de l'Oise. Salbutamol was banned in France at the time but had not yet found its way onto the UCI's banned list. Indurain was not sanctioned.

Dutch broadcaster NOS quoted Italian investigator Sandro Donati who claimed that Banesto riders were involved with Conconi and another source corroborated the story.

Right. Forgot about that. But since he was never officially sanctioned and there is no "evidence" against his tour wins I think he applies.

But I will leave it up to Hog to make the final ruling

 

[thehog]

Right. Forgot about that. But since he was never officially sanctioned and there is no "evidence" against his tour wins I think he applies.

But I will leave it up to Hog to make the final ruling

The ruling is that you can be embroiled in a doping scandal but come out without sanction then you're official a "Teflon doper" - said in game host TV voice.

That's where Klodi takes the cake.

He was caught up in Astana and T-Mobile & they still couldn't get him.

Mind you. He looked great on a bike. Such a beautiful pedaling style.

Upper body. Rested. Never moved an inch.