Teflon dopers

Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Nov 12, 2010
4,253
1,314
18,680
Erik Zabel - EPO detected, Confessed twice but not even sanctioned once. The best & slickest of the lot. Will come back to cycling and can probably confess a 100 times without any sanction.
 
Jul 5, 2011
858
0
0
Chris Boardman MBE somehow emerged squeaky clean from probably the dirtiest chapter in sporting history, the 90's pro peloton. Was the altitude tent that good?:cool:
 
Jun 12, 2010
519
0
0
IndianCyclist said:
Erik Zabel - EPO detected, Confessed twice but not even sanctioned once. The best & slickest of the lot. Will come back to cycling and can probably confess a 100 times without any sanction.

he just had to do it to make the timecut ;)
 
Oct 16, 2012
10,364
179
22,680
rainman said:
Chris Boardman MBE somehow emerged squeaky clean from probably the dirtiest chapter in sporting history, the 90's pro peloton. Was the altitude tent that good?:cool:

I thought the idea of the teflon doper was someone who was embroiled around scandals rather than they just rode a bike, if you have any evidence against Chris please share it, fo he may have been a super talent who would have won many things in a cleaner era.
 
Feb 20, 2010
33,064
15,272
28,180
Rogers should probably count at this point in time. He's the only Skyborg past or present I'd call a teflon doper though, since he's the one that's been named multiple times (Ferrari x2 and Freiburg).
 
Jul 5, 2011
858
0
0
del1962 said:
I thought the idea of the teflon doper was someone who was embroiled around scandals rather than they just rode a bike, if you have any evidence against Chris please share it, fo he may have been a super talent who would have won many things in a cleaner era.

I may have the definition of the thread wrong and there's no doubt he was a super talent. But he didn't 'just ride a bike' - he won many important victories in a very dirty era when entire teams systematically doped under their doctors supervision. There has to be a question mark. There's no evidence against Froome or Merckx or Hinault either, but post Lance implicitly trusting incredible performances is for the gullible.
 
Oct 16, 2012
10,364
179
22,680
rainman said:
I may have the definition of the thread wrong and there's no doubt he was a super talent. But he didn't 'just ride a bike' - he won many important victories in a very dirty era when entire teams systematically doped under their doctors supervision. There has to be a question mark. There's no evidence against Froome or Merckx or Hinault either, but post Lance implicitly trusting incredible performances is for the gullible.

I have heard the testimony of his GAN teammates was that while they where using drugs he wasn't, so with that in mind, I don't think he fits into the teflon doper model.
 
Feb 20, 2010
33,064
15,272
28,180
I think Teflon dopers are only really meant for those where they've been named or caught up in something and still managed to get away without sanction - Klöden, LL Sánchez, Rogers or Kolobnev come to mind. If somebody has been in the wrong place at the wrong time, that shouldn't really count, unless they've been in several wrong places at several wrong times (take, for example, Ángel Vicioso, Kelme, ONCE, Liberty '05, Astana '06, Relax '07, LA-MSS '08, then with Androni and Katyusha, not two teams with the best clean reputations out there) at which point the no smoke without fire button has to be pressed.
 
Mar 6, 2009
4,601
503
17,080
Libertine Seguros said:
I think Teflon dopers are only really meant for those where they've been named or caught up in something and still managed to get away without sanction - Klöden, LL Sánchez, Rogers or Kolobnev come to mind. If somebody has been in the wrong place at the wrong time, that shouldn't really count, unless they've been in several wrong places at several wrong times (take, for example, Ángel Vicioso, Kelme, ONCE, Liberty '05, Astana '06, Relax '07, LA-MSS '08, then with Androni and Katyusha, not two teams with the best clean reputations out there) at which point the no smoke without fire button has to be pressed.

Wasn't Vicioso connected with Puerto somehow and then sorta blacklisted like Sevilla etc, thus the reason he ended up at Relax in 07 having been on only top teams previously.
 

thehog

BANNED
Jul 27, 2009
31,285
2
22,485
Libertine Seguros said:
I think Teflon dopers are only really meant for those where they've been named or caught up in something and still managed to get away without sanction - Klöden, LL Sánchez, Rogers or Kolobnev come to mind. If somebody has been in the wrong place at the wrong time, that shouldn't really count, unless they've been in several wrong places at several wrong times (take, for example, Ángel Vicioso, Kelme, ONCE, Liberty '05, Astana '06, Relax '07, LA-MSS '08, then with Androni and Katyusha, not two teams with the best clean reputations out there) at which point the no smoke without fire button has to be pressed.

Rogers loses his teflon doper status. Big day. Looks like with Kloden retired he'll keep the title!
 
Feb 10, 2010
10,645
20
22,510
rainman said:
There's no evidence against Froome or Merckx or Hinault either.

Well, Merckx was sanctioned for doping twice and will still probably argue the third sanction.

Hinault was a holy terror on a bicycle, all year long and no sanctions mentioned on wikipedia.
 
Aug 7, 2010
404
0
0
1517701_10202730338245812_134047353_n.jpg


Never tested positive.

Oh, and happy 70th birthday Keith. :)
 
May 11, 2013
13,995
5,289
28,180
Fausto's Schnauzer said:
1517701_10202730338245812_134047353_n.jpg


Never tested positive.

Oh, and happy 70th birthday Keith. :)

Great! The father and mother of dope. Many Tour's under his belt, Grand Tours I'd say.
 
Jul 5, 2009
751
13
10,010
Is armstrong extending his apology tour to the guy in the black and yellow suit? Dopers shan't have the right to push anyone down into the snow.
 
Sep 23, 2011
536
0
0
This thread was two years and 134 posts old before Rogers was first mentioned (by Libertine). Two months and five posts later he's busted.
 

thehog

BANNED
Jul 27, 2009
31,285
2
22,485
Morbius said:
This thread was two years and 134 posts old before Rogers was first mentioned (by Libertine). Two months and five posts later he's busted.

I think Rogers has taken Kloden's Teflon doper award.

:cool: