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Ticker said:[/B]
Typical.
The willful ignorance of some of the Nadal fans there makes for comedy gold, though.
yespatterns said:
Here is what one of the Nadal fans claimed in an attempt to sway our opinions:
PS: I am a researcher in this field at one of the (and by many accounts THE) top research institution in the world.
I checked many of his previous postings, and there was no indication that this guy is anything other than a teenage fan-boy.
Recognizing denial.
I posted these typical denial reactions from tennis fanboys in a tennis forum. Of course, there were some angry reactions.
[Denial]
- I am sure that there is doping out there, but it is only a few lower ranked, less talented players like Odesnik, trying to make a living.
- My favorite isn't doping, because I know him, he is too nice to cheat.
- There is no way the top players would dope, they have too much to lose.
- They can't be doping, because they are tested too much.
- Doping wouldn't help much in tennis, because it is a skill sport.
- Even though some of the same patterns have been seen in tennis as has been seen in other sports with known doping problems, it doesn't mean tennis may have a problem as well, because tennis players are "gentile", and those other athletes (like cyclists) are jerks.
- The dramatic increase over the last 15 years of player's speed, strength and stamina is because humans have evolved (my generation is way better than people were 15 years ago).
- My favorite's artificial ability to peak in the late spring/summer every year where there are 3 slams, while playing MUCH worse in the fall where there are no slams is not indicative of cycling to peak at the most important time of year.
- My favorite's many years of serial suspicious joint injuries that don't have any long term effect on his physical performance, that always require unproven experimental treatments that can be used to mask doping treatments, performed by suspicious doctors, is not indicative of anything.
- My favorite's accidental public admissions that he is taking illegal treatments, mean nothing, since he would never admit to taking illegal treatments. Therefore, the apparent illegal treatments, must not really be illegal.
- My favorite's complaints about the drug testing is not indicative of anything.
- My favorite's defending other convicted drug cheats, is not indicative of anything.
- My favorite coming from a jurisdiction that protects it's dopers, is not indicative of anything.
- I can "pick apart", one at a time, all of the circumstantial evidence against my favorite, and the public's suspicion will go away.
- Even though my favorite has many of the same patterns as an infamous athlete who got caught, doesn't mean my favorite is doping. I can make the suspicion go away by highlighting insignificant differences between my favorite, and the guy who was caught.
- I can ignore the accusations against my favorite, because all of the accusations are just from jealous tards of another player.
- My hyper-defensiveness about accusations against my favorite, are not an indication that down deep, I have some suspicions myself.
- You can't accuse a player, no matter how much circumstantial evidence, because it is "innocent until proven guilty" for those people accused with a felony in criminal courts.
- It doesn't matter if my favorite is doping or not, as long as "public opinion" isn't against him.
- There may be doping, but if there is, they all do it, so it is an even playing field.
[/Denial]
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I posted these typical denial reactions from tennis fanboys in a tennis forum. Of course, there were some angry reactions.
[Denial]
- I am sure that there is doping out there, but it is only a few lower ranked, less talented players like Odesnik, trying to make a living.
- My favorite isn't doping, because I know him, he is too nice to cheat.
- There is no way the top players would dope, they have too much to lose.
- They can't be doping, because they are tested too much.
- Doping wouldn't help much in tennis, because it is a skill sport.
- Even though some of the same patterns have been seen in tennis as has been seen in other sports with known doping problems, it doesn't mean tennis may have a problem as well, because tennis players are "gentile", and those other athletes (like cyclists) are jerks.
- The dramatic increase over the last 15 years of player's speed, strength and stamina is because humans have evolved (my generation is way better than people were 15 years ago).
- My favorite's artificial ability to peak in the late spring/summer every year where there are 3 slams, while playing MUCH worse in the fall where there are no slams is not indicative of cycling to peak at the most important time of year.
- My favorite's many years of serial suspicious joint injuries that don't have any long term effect on his physical performance, that always require unproven experimental treatments that can be used to mask doping treatments, performed by suspicious doctors, is not indicative of anything.
- My favorite's accidental public admissions that he is taking illegal treatments, mean nothing, since he would never admit to taking illegal treatments. Therefore, the apparent illegal treatments, must not really be illegal.
- My favorite's complaints about the drug testing is not indicative of anything.
- My favorite's defending other convicted drug cheats, is not indicative of anything.
- My favorite coming from a jurisdiction that protects it's dopers, is not indicative of anything.
- I can "pick apart", one at a time, all of the circumstantial evidence against my favorite, and the public's suspicion will go away.
- Even though my favorite has many of the same patterns as an infamous athlete who got caught, doesn't mean my favorite is doping. I can make the suspicion go away by highlighting insignificant differences between my favorite, and the guy who was caught.
- I can ignore the accusations against my favorite, because all of the accusations are just from jealous tards of another player.
- My hyper-defensiveness about accusations against my favorite, are not an indication that down deep, I have some suspicions myself.
- You can't accuse a player, no matter how much circumstantial evidence, because it is "innocent until proven guilty" for those people accused with a felony in criminal courts.
- It doesn't matter if my favorite is doping or not, as long as "public opinion" isn't against him.
- There may be doping, but if there is, they all do it, so it is an even playing field.
[/Denial]
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Aaron Krickstein is indignant <tumbs down>blackcat said:what about hebrew tennis players?
btw. Betsy told be jesus was a tennis player
the best ever tennis player who wore a fridge around one of his knees. Albeit, the sample size for tennis players wearing a fridge on their knee is about 1. So, p'raps I aint extending Krickstein that much credit.
google image search cant find a pic of AK wearing a refrigerator on his knee, so next best alternative, is him catching a snapper in homo erotic pose
blackcat said:what about hebrew tennis players?
btw. Betsy told me jesus was a tennis player
Oops, "genteel", not "gentile".
By the way, Nadal is a non-practising Sephardic Jew.
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Andynonomous said:
is not aaron krickstein. his knees need to be more shot and more strapping than refrigerators.
krickstein's my homie
krickstein>nadal.
damn sight better looking than the little mouse that is nadal's vermin physiognomy. tennis players are usually the better looking of the sportsmen and sportswomen, nadal is the exception. Nadal is to heterosexual men, what Svetlana Kuznetsova is to dykes. = b utt ugly
The_Juan said:
"Nadal" is a Jewish name. He may have "converted" to Christianity, like many Jews who didn't want to be persecuted, but his heritage is likely Jewish.
Website to search for Jewish surname.
Result for surnames starting with "N" (includes "Nadal").
As well, his mother's name (Parera) is a name that Jews took to hide their heritage.
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yep. with michael chang, not sure if change won an atp before roland garros, they were preturnatural. But AK's knee ligaments did him in. Was one of the first to herald the era of the double hander. *one of, not THE.robow7 said:
think it was tel aviv he won innit? and no one will ever beat that age now, when you need to develop a dope fueled physique over a few years before you can even compete with the big boys. in the ATP, I think the french guy, Gasquet, was the youngest top 100 for a while, had Nadal beat, Nadal is about 9months younger in age than RG. Might have the most beautiful backhand, but its lasso takes to much time in preparation, and too much time in recovering from hitting it in the whirling dervish post-shot phase that RG cant prepare for his next shot. so unless he puts the point into a mere "put-away" for his next shot, he can be found out.
<looked> very late 80's i just stepped out of an mtv clip mighta just been the bandana. from there, philippoussis, federer, and feliciano lopez were just imitators with their headband. no one can match AK. no one.
I always felt bad for Aaron as he would be forever known as the one that allowed Connors to make that unforgettable come from behind win in the 1991 US Open quarterfinal at age 39. If you ever get a chance to see the ESPN video on youtube, their 30 for 30 segment on Jimmy Connors, there's a pretty good amount on Aaron and how that match took its toll on him for years to come.
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blackcat said:retired up to New England to wear headbands and write books at Williams College, or teach at Pamona and be a summer camp coach
headbands ftw
David Foster Wallace turned me on to tennis. His essays about the sport are must reads. I miss him greatly.
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Not the most scientific article.
But overall, it certainly does feel to me like this whole gluten free thing cannot even come close to explaining why djoko went from being one of the physically weakest players in the men's game to one of the strongest and most durable, overnight.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/healthyeating/10430422/The-great-gluten-free-scam.html
Seen too many fake explanations in cycling to believe things like this.
But overall, it certainly does feel to me like this whole gluten free thing cannot even come close to explaining why djoko went from being one of the physically weakest players in the men's game to one of the strongest and most durable, overnight.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/healthyeating/10430422/The-great-gluten-free-scam.html
Seen too many fake explanations in cycling to believe things like this.
The Hitch said:
Djokovic has gone silent on his "gluten free diet". He won't answer questions on it any longer.
It is an arms race, with one athlete finding new drugs, then leaving the other behind, then the others trying to catch up.
When Djokovic lost to Nadal at the 2010 USO, I am pretty sure he decided to go "Armstrong" (all the way) on the juice ,because it was obvious to him that Nadal already was on the full program.
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