The 2012 CQ Ranking Manager Game

[ingsve]

how about 5 missed tests over 2 years?

Way too lenient.

 

[greenedge]

1000+ point gambles

29 riders had a 2011 value of 1000+, and I'm surprised to see how many have been picked - how much value do you think there is in some of these big point picks?

RIDER 2011 SCORE POPULARITY
1596 3
SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel 1576 0

Surprised that no one picked him. His ITT is good and he might go better at the TDF. He still is yet to win at the Ardennes but is consistent, so he could win one. He also has the possibility of doing the Vuelta.

 

[greenedge]

Let me see, perhaps because he in 2010 scored 2204 points

But next year he may or may not start the Giro, then he has to win it and then go to the TDF and go well. If he does the giro he will not be able to the Giro, TDF and the Vuelta.

It would be Giro, TDF, Olympics- rest then WC and GDL.

 

[greenedge]

I considered Larsson, Rasmussen for the TT points but in the end left them out because the big points will be likeley to be picked up by Martin, Cance, maybe Wiggins, Porte and Froome possibly.

Another tester under consideration was Zabriskie because he was like 160 points or so, and theres plenty of points at the US nationals ITT but in the end he couldn't fit into my team for one reason or another.

Same reason with Zabriskie for me. Neither could Larsson.

 

[greenedge]

Assuming that Martin Cancellara Wiggins Contador Evans Porte share the top spots thats not really many points to be basing a pick around.

If Bobridge was not focusing on track i could envisage him replacing Porte. Porte needs hilly courses, which is why i think he could win at Valkenburg.

 

[greenedge]

Where is Wiggins going to get a points increase from??

By winning the Dauphinie ( not crashing at the TDF ), going to the Olympics ( getting a medal in the ITT ) and the same in the WC ITT

 

[greenedge]

having said that I'm surprised that some people have gone for Basso, as there doesnt seem to be much chance of providing a profit of more than say 200 (I'd hoped for more from Cav and EBH). 2009 - 2x good GTs 1100, 2010 - 1x excellent GT 1000, 2011 - 1x good GT 900 (appreciate this is a simplification of his scoring). The risk/reward doesnt seem to be worthwhile to me, whereas someone like nibali or farrar would could score 500-1000 points more I think are good picks.

My logic is he is hopefully sure to win the Giro. Even if he gets only 200 points more that is still fine. 200 X 33 =6600+ 7500= 14100 ( my case 14098 )
If all my riders get 200 points more than last year that gets me into the top 20 ( or so hopefully ). The margin for profit for riders like Sicard and Lloyd is huge as well. Pozzato and Renshaw can hopefully get me more of a turnover as well.

I wanted Farrar ( as i think he can win the Olympic RR ) but i thought it was risky.

 

[Ferminal]

Larsson is more than just a TT'er, he's a good enough climber to do a decent GC in races like Romandie. TT'ers can also pick up big points without too much trouble in Benelux and Beijing.

 

[Eric8-A]

The margin for profit for riders like Sicard and Lloyd is huge as well. Pozzato and Renshaw can hopefully get me more of a turnover as well.

I wanted Farrar ( as i think he can win the Olympic RR ) but i thought it was risky.

I think Pozzato can score real well. Given the number of one day races where there isn't much competition from the WorldTour team, that's where he can make his profit.

 

[greenedge]

I think I have probably taken the biggest risk/reward strategy with 5 riders over 850, which i also gives me a high uniqueness score.

CAVENDISH Mark 1469
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1391
NIBALI Vincenzo 1127
FARRAR Tyler 953
GESINK Robert 868
PINOTTI Marco 373
BOL Jetse 165
KELDERMAN Wilco 134
CATTANEO Mattia 108
DUMOULIN Tom 81
MARKUS Barry 81
GOOS Marc 76
VAN DER SANDE Tosh 70
DURBRIDGE Luke 65
HEPBURN Michael 64
CHAVEZ RUBIO Johan Esteban 64
MAJKA Rafal 57
RATHE Jakob 50
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 47
CHUZHDA Oleg 46
HOSTE Leif 44
VALLS FERRI Rafael 39
LOCATELLI Stefano 34
EIJSSEN Yannick 28
PAUWELS Serge 18
BOIVIN Guillaume 14
KREDER Raymond 13
STUYVEN Jasper 11
DENNIS Rohan 10
SICARD Romain 0
LLOYD Matthew 0
BELLIS Jonathan 0
AUGUSTYN John-Lee 0

the bolded riders are there ones i am most nervous about, the riders in italics if they suffer injury or similar then of course i have no chance to win, but i can still consider how profitable or not my cheaper picks turn out to be.

I am particularly pleased that Jasper Stuyven is a unique pick, as he could pick up 150 points, Raymond Kreder is unique as well but not such high hopes.

That is quite risky/ an interesting strategy. Good luck.
However i doubt Cav will earn more points than this year.
Kreder is a good pick talent wise but i doubt JV will use him much this year.
Already got some points with Dennis.

I just could not fit in Larsson or Zabriskie.
That was the reasoning behind ( everyone on the CQ game practically picking Pozzato )

 

[greenedge]

CUNEGO Damiano
MARTIN Daniel
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
FEDRIGO Pierrick
ROLLAND Pierre
SCHUMACHER Stefan
PHINNEY Taylor
CHARTEAU Anthony
POZZATO Filippo
RENSHAW Mark
KERN Christophe
TALANSKY Andrew
JEANNESSON Arnold
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
VEILLEUX David
BRESCHEL Matti
CHAVEZ RUBIO Johan Esteban
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
HUNT Jeremy
BOILY David
HUREL Tony
THURAU Björn
VOIGT Jens
KASHECHKIN Andrey
TULIK Angelo
BOIVIN Guillaume
VAUGRENARD Benoît
VANENDERT Dennis
WILLEMS Frederik
SICARD Romain
LLOYD Matthew
MARGALIOT Ran
The two Spidertechs will surprise many.

I considered Boily but decided he just did not fit. He was impressive though at Avenir.

 

[Ferminal]

48 points for Lloyd and Porte does a better ride than he did all last season, impressive.

 

[Eric8-A]

Porte for me. I'll have to wait and see how the other Aussies in my team performed.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

aghh, should have gone lloyd.

damn you sicard, better perform !

And Porte I had in my team for so long, he better fade after January

 

[Ferminal]

Gerrans & Lloyd & Clarke & Cooke

just some guy

Lloyd & Porte & Hansen & Von Hoff

Spider*

Gerrans & Porte

the asian

Lloyd & Porte

AntonioRossi
Armchair Cyclist
AussieGoddess*
auto de fe^
cineteq
Ferminal
greenedge
HelgeBlendet*
Kwibus
luckyboy
Ruby United
Shalgo
trotters aotearoa
Von Mises*

*Also has Durbridge
^Also has Bobridge

Spider to lead after the ITT.

 

[AussieGoddess]

encouraging signs from Durbridge which is good

Glad to have some early points on the board with Lloyd too

 

[Spider1964]

Gerrans & Lloyd & Clarke & Cooke

just some guy

Lloyd & Porte & Hansen & Von Hoff

Spider*

Gerrans & Porte

the asian

Lloyd & Porte

AntonioRossi
Armchair Cyclist
AussieGoddess*
auto de fe^
cineteq
Ferminal
greenedge
HelgeBlendet*
Kwibus
luckyboy
Ruby United
Shalgo
trotters aotearoa
Von Mises*

*Also has Durbridge
^Also has Bobridge

Spider to lead after the ITT.

Let's hope there's a prize for leading in January

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

48 points for Lloyd.

60 points, actually.

I expected more from Mick Rogers after reading his recent comments. I guess he needs a few more races...

 

[just some guy]

60 points, actually.

I expected more from Mick Rogers after reading his recent comments. I guess he needs a few more races...

Itt will smash it

 

[Ruby United]

i got some early seasen points with lloyd and porte. hopefully they can keep it up.

 

[Tank Engine]

Deignan is racing for UnitedHealthCare this year in the US, so you're off the hook.

That'll teach me to keep an eye on what the guys on my shortlist are doing.

Not a good pick then, considering all the silly NE races across the pond (although Utah is classified now - I think, and he wasn't too expensive).

Anyway, this year is about data collection, so it probably helps to have someone on the US scene as I'll follow what's going on there more than I normally do.

 

[Eric8-A]

So I got 55. 50 from Richie, and 5 from Mick Rogers.

Looking for a better turnout in the time trial.

 

[Mellow Velo]

So, it took Matt Lloyd one day of the season to pay out some serious CQ points and get into the black!

 

[Panda Claws]

55 points so far, not too shabby.

 

[just some guy]

Ps will clarke may get more points in tdu.