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just some guy

just some guy

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Kvinto said:
Yep, because if Sicard's muscle imbalance in a right leg is over then Lloyd has no chance. The question stands 'is it actually over?' because from what i read about this during 2011 they (Euskaltel) didn't even know what caused this problem :eek:
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Why if Lloyd has a great season then his point profit will be great Sicard is more of a worry at this stage imo
 
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just some guy said:
Why if Lloyd has a great season then his point profit will be great Sicard is more of a worry at this stage imo
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Matthew Lloyd is not actually a rider who scores many CQ points (at least so far). His biggest score (424 points) came out from a season when he gained 140 points for winning the Nationals RR. Apart from this he was always used as a mountain domestique or sometimes in free role in GTs. Maybe riding in GE he would have had more opportunities, but in Lampre he should ride for team leaders in GTs, and even if he gets free role there it would be hard to expect something more than a stage win and mountain jersey as it happened in Giro 2010 (dont forget that he ended that season with 206 points what is not that huge gain). Of course if he is in a good form now he can do well in TDU, which will make his season better than i expected but generally Romain Sicard is more talented and what's important more versatile rider. The only problem being 'is he fit?'.
 
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Michielveedeebee

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As long as Devolder performs I don't care, I think he's a rather unique pick :D

EDIT: I'm wrong :( he's the 11th most popular rider :( damn!

EDIT 2: At least Contador's my unique pick, he'd better win a Tour-Vuelta double
 
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ingsve said:
I took the lead on the 5th of June which was the 21st update and the 22nd week of the year.
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So thats about right. Since the Giro and ToC are in May it should be clear after that who is still in contention and who is out.

Perhaps this year may be a tighter fight since there are Olympics that will deliver some extra points at the same time there will be shockers as every year and unfortunate events (hopefully not as bad as WW and Tondo) that can make or brake any team ....
 
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Jancouver said:
So thats about right. Since the Giro and ToC are in May it should be clear after that who is still in contention and who is out.

Perhaps this year may be a tighter fight since there are Olympics that will deliver some extra points at the same time there will be shockers as every year and unfortunate events (hopefully not as bad as WW and Tondo) that can make or brake any team ....
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Yeah, I think that ~40 more teams + a bit more seasoning on how to pick a good team + Olympics will probably make for a more exciting and tight race (although last year was fun to follow my own team later in the season, even if it was only from 50th to 20th).

I'm also thankful for last year's learning experience re: 'shockers' - after Ricco dashed my hopes pretty much before the season started, I shied away from picking such expensive riders. Losing Offredo's 295 points (which I still hope doesn't happen somehow) is much less of a blow than losing Ricco's 756 points last year (obviously I mean 'points' as last year's points, with the thought of doubling them). Actually, I didn't notice consciously, but for me last year's big lesson was 'don't spend big', because of my big buys, Kreuziger (839), Boonen (777) and Ricco (756) were busts, and only Cunego paid off. This year, my most expensive pick is 532, and I don't think that's an accident, even if I didn't consciously intend it.
 
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skidmark said:
Yeah, I think that ~40 more teams + a bit more seasoning on how to pick a good team + Olympics will probably make for a more exciting and tight race (although last year was fun to follow my own team later in the season, even if it was only from 50th to 20th).

I'm also thankful for last year's learning experience re: 'shockers' - after Ricco dashed my hopes pretty much before the season started, I shied away from picking such expensive riders. Losing Offredo's 295 points (which I still hope doesn't happen somehow) is much less of a blow than losing Ricco's 756 points last year (obviously I mean 'points' as last year's points, with the thought of doubling them). Actually, I didn't notice consciously, but for me last year's big lesson was 'don't spend big', because of my big buys, Kreuziger (839), Boonen (777) and Ricco (756) were busts, and only Cunego paid off. This year, my most expensive pick is 532, and I don't think that's an accident, even if I didn't consciously intend it.
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I also had Boonen & Kreuziger last year (and this year) but pretty much avoided any super expensive riders this year.

Last year I have Spartacus and he did almost break even so I didnt lose that much. I was hoping he will have a Gilbert's type of of season but that didnt happen. I think with all the TTs and Olympics he can get 2000+ points this year but thats just too risky.

This year I picked GALIMZYANOV Denis @ 698 points as my most expensive rider. Few reasons for that. I wanted one of the Top sprinters from WT team that will not cost more than 3x the average (little over but its OK) and also a sprinter that will not be on so common on every team and since he did have a break through season last year I figured he will not be extra popular. He is not the fastest guy but I think he can have a 1000+ season. Zabel is on board with Katusha so perhaps he will be able to establish a good HTC like leadout train. Just hoping he will not end up being a leadout for Oscarito :eek:
 
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Jancouver said:
I also had Boonen & Kreuziger last year (and this year) but pretty much avoided any super expensive riders this year.

This year I picked GALIMZYANOV Denis @ 698 points as my most expensive rider. Few reasons for that. I wanted one of the Top sprinters from WT team that will not cost more than 3x the average (little over but its OK) and also a sprinter that will not be on so common on every team and since he did have a break through season last year I figured he will not be extra popular. He is not the fastest guy but I think he can have a 1000+ season. Zabel is on board with Katusha so perhaps he will be able to establish a good HTC like leadout train. Just hoping he will not end up being a leadout for Oscarito :eek:
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Same with me and Modolo this year - stoked that only 2 other people have him. And don't worry; when has ANYONE ever been a leadout for Oscarito?
 
will10

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There is actually a CQ update download on their site - I didn't think they'd bother for 2-3 races but seems they do!

Congrats to just some guy who is the first leader on 219 points (Gerrans, Lloyd, W.Clarke, Cooke and Rogers) :p
 
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I reckon Belletti was a better option than either Galimzyanov (costly) or Modolo (pro conti), and not as popular as Renshaw.
 
will10

will10

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taiwan said:
I reckon Belletti was a better option than either Galimzyanov (costly) or Modolo (pro conti), and not as popular as Renshaw.
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Belletti was on my longlist but I was concerned where he would fit in at Ag2r with regards to sprinting hierarchy.
 
just some guy

just some guy

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will10 said:
There is actually a CQ update download on their site - I didn't think they'd bother for 2-3 races but seems they do!

Congrats to just some guy who is the first leader on 219 points (Gerrans, Lloyd, W.Clarke, Cooke and Rogers) :p
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Nice, leader for a few days.:)

Mick to win the ITT and my low land types to do well until the GTs and then got to hope the stage hunters do well or the slide down the leader board will be long
 
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taiwan said:
Click to these posts. You have the 18th most 'uncommon' team.

Data on popularity of riders etc. can be found in Skibby the bush kangaroo's posts from this point.
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Cheers. I really dig your squad btw. Strong selection. Lets both cross our fingers for Fabrice Jeandesboz; I have very high expectations for him this coming season. He had excellent form coming out of the Tour. Top-5 on Lagunas de Neila shows his enormous qualities. Having read that he has had a strong off-season and dropped a few kilos (Normally he is around 70kg-68kg) but entering this year he is down to 65kg makes me even more optimistic. I hope we get to see him shine a lot in the mountains this year!
 
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skidmark

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will10 said:
At 532 I think Modolo is a big big gamble, but we'll see ;)
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well yeah, I definitely do too. My reasoning was:

- he's young and getting better
- he won a lot of small races last year, and is Italian pro conti, so there's no reason to expect him not to do at least that again
- he's proven he can be there at the end of long races, but MSR was ripped to shreds this year so there was no sprint, and he gave up when he was boxed in at the worlds
- Belletti is gone so he's the undisputed sprint leader
- most importantly, I like him and want to cheer for him

Anyway, I expect him to at least match last year's total, and even if he gets an injury for a month or so, there's more than enough in the Italian calendar to offer opportunities. And then best case, high placings in MSR and the Olympics (and the Giro? Probably no selection, but we'll see tomorrow). A risk, but I needed at least one big one in this game, might as well be a guy I wanna cheer for.
 
Eric8-A

Eric8-A

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will10 said:
Belletti was on my longlist but I was concerned where he would fit in at Ag2r with regards to sprinting hierarchy.
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I'm not too informed on AG2R. What other sprinters do they have in their team? I chose Belletti on my team.
 
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Ferminal

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Eric8-A said:
I'm not too informed on AG2R. What other sprinters do they have in their team? I chose Belletti on my team.
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Casper
Shpilevsky
Hinault
Mondory

The latter two are hardly bunch sprint winners though, Shpilevsky is largely unproven at this level, and Casper is getting on a bit isn't he.
 
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