The 2016 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

[R_O_Shipman]

Wait, what, 7,500? I worked to 7,000! Dagnammit

 

[Gigs_98]

How do you choose the riders with less than 100?
Just look, if he is young and became better in the last years? Because thats what I do, because I don't know any of these riders

 

[LaFlorecita]

How do you choose the riders with less than 100?
Just look, if he is young and became better in the last years? Because thats what I do, because I don't know any of these riders

You don't know any of them?!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Is no-one else considering Landa?

Maybe people are considering him, but why would they tell you?

Well, I'm pretty sure you just told us you got Nibali. At least, I assume he is the rider over 1000 (unless it is Kwiatkowski?)

I think it's safe to assume that that rider is someone completely different...

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[Gigs_98]

How do you choose the riders with less than 100?
Just look, if he is young and became better in the last years? Because thats what I do, because I don't know any of these riders

You don't know any of them?!

You know what I mean. I have 5 riders I hardly know anything about but who seem to have a good development so I put them into my team because you simply need riders with less than 100 points.

 

[HelgeBlendet]

Really struggling this year... First draft for the team ended at exactly 7500 points and I actually like it. Looking back that means it'll be bad. Second draft could be called "fanboy team". Love it even more than the first, but I guess my projections for those guys is mostly wishful thinking. The more I now about the peloton, the worse I get at this game... or so it feels.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

How do you choose the riders with less than 100?
Just look, if he is young and became better in the last years? Because thats what I do, because I don't know any of these riders

It's always difficult to find the good cheap picks and it can depend on luck. But to give you an idea of what type of riders you might want to keep your eye out for, here are a few examples of >100 picks that gave very good profit in previous editions.

Coquard; 33 points in 2012, 742 points in 2013
Kump; 28 points in 2014, 534 points in 2015
Mareczko; 15 points in 2014, 449 points in 2015
Quintana; 60 points in 2011, 707 points in 2012
Hushovd 76 points in 2012, 690 points in 2013

Mind you, none of these were simply down to luck. None of these were extremely rare picks; plenty of people predicted these would do well. Only Mareczko was a bit obscure, because people picked him mainly on account of him winning a bucket load of races in the Italian amateur scene. But this one of the area's in which the more knowledgeable players can get an advantage.

 

[jsem94]

I have barely taken any neo-pros or riders who haven't performed before this year. There was no need. Too many class riders having had bad years due to injuries etc have made low cost riders abundant. It's been more difficult picking riders at 500+ points. I have one guy who will make or break my team at 600+ points, who is a complete wild card..

 

[santanderino]

I am an usual reader that finally registered to join the game. But the forum does not allow me not send PM. So this post, more than asking for help is to see if after posting it I am allowed to send PM's. Btw, hello to everyone!!

 

[Jancouver]

Re:

I am an usual reader that finally registered to join the game. But the forum does not allow me not send PM. So this post, more than asking for help is to see if after posting it I am allowed to send PM's. Btw, hello to everyone!!

As previously posted, you need 10 posts to send a message. Alternatively, you can go to VeloRooms and register there http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=7678.0

 

[Ferminal]

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I have barely taken any neo-pros or riders who haven't performed before this year. There was no need. Too many class riders having had bad years due to injuries etc have made low cost riders abundant. It's been more difficult picking riders at 500+ points. I have one guy who will make or break my team at 600+ points, who is a complete wild card..

Yep... my team is very generic this year too, usually I aim for low popularity but I've got overwhelmingly household names this year. Can't see any uniques either.

And I couldn't even find room for LRP

 

[the asian]

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

I have barely taken any neo-pros or riders who haven't performed before this year. There was no need. Too many class riders having had bad years due to injuries etc have made low cost riders abundant. It's been more difficult picking riders at 500+ points. I have one guy who will make or break my team at 600+ points, who is a complete wild card..

Yep... my team is very generic this year too, usually I aim for low popularity but I've got overwhelmingly household names this year. Can't see any uniques either.

And I couldn't even find room for LRP

Me too, I guess I could have some lower point riders who are pretty unpopular, but everyone from 100 up seem like pretty "obvious" picks that probably most people considered, except for my most expensive rider.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

Personally, I didn't go for Nibali. At his post-TDF cost, I guess everyone would have picked him. But at 1500 points, I'm wondering what would be considered a good return. For a 1200 point rider, 2000 might be good. But for 1500 points? I don't know. There's no guarantee he'll go back to performing all season, so for me, 1500 points was just too expensive. (I should add that I spent 5000 points on 7 riders so there were simply no points left ).

 

[the asian]

Re: Re:

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

Personally, I didn't go for Nibali. At his post-TDF cost, I guess everyone would have picked him. But at 1500 points, I'm wondering what would be considered a good return. For a 1200 point rider, 2000 might be good. But for 1500 points? I don't know. There's no guarantee he'll go back to performing all season, so for me, 1500 points was just too expensive. (I should add that I spent 5000 points on 7 riders so there were simply no points left ).

I did't take too much notice of the riders between 700-1000 Points. Infact I have none in my shortlist. But I'm going to have a second look after reading your post.

 

[jsem94]

I didn't go for Nibali either. Below 1000 points I would have chosen him, but once he started performing in those Italian classics pre-WC he booted himself out of my team. I can see him getting 2000 pts, but that isn't enough of a profit to seriously consider him, that would only be a 500pt profit. He would need to do a 2400+ to be seriously worth it, and that's highly unlikely even if he dominates the Giro, does well in the Olympics and many other races. I don't see it happening.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

Personally, I didn't go for Nibali. At his post-TDF cost, I guess everyone would have picked him. But at 1500 points, I'm wondering what would be considered a good return. For a 1200 point rider, 2000 might be good. But for 1500 points? I don't know. There's no guarantee he'll go back to performing all season, so for me, 1500 points was just too expensive. (I should add that I spent 5000 points on 7 riders so there were simply no points left ).

I did't take too much notice of the riders between 700-1000 Points. Infact I have none in my shortlist. But I'm going to have a second look after reading your post.

I have 0 in that point range

 

[jsem94]

I have no riders 700+.

 

[Jancouver]

Re:

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

He already had a 2800 season before and he is capable of 3000 points. With a little luck and no injuries, no problem for a guy like Nib to score 3000 points. Just look at Piti, 3000 points seasons in 2014-15. It is doable and you will not lose this game by having somebody like that on your team.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

He already had a 2800 season before and he is capable of 3000 points. With a little luck and no injuries, no problem for a guy like Nib to score 3000 points. Just look at Piti, 3000 points seasons in 2014-15. It is doable and you will not lose this game by having somebody like that on your team.

Piti =/= Nibali. The chance that Piti scores 2800+ is way higher than that Nibali scores 2800+.
In 2013 he scored 2800, but in 2016 he will only race 1 GT for the win (Giro) instead of 2 like in 2013, and in the last 2 years Nibali barely performed at all in the races before his GT goal. I'd say 2000 points is more realistic.

 

[Jancouver]

Re: Re:

Strugling with this years team.

Obvious decision to make is whether to inlcude Lo Squalo or not.

Have about 60 riders in the shortlist, not easy to trim that down.

He already had a 2800 season before and he is capable of 3000 points. With a little luck and no injuries, no problem for a guy like Nib to score 3000 points. Just look at Piti, 3000 points seasons in 2014-15. It is doable and you will not lose this game by having somebody like that on your team.

Piti =/= Nibali. The chance that Piti scores 2800+ is way higher than that Nibali scores 2800+.
In 2013 he scored 2800, but in 2016 he will only race 1 GT for the win (Giro) instead of 2 like in 2013, and in the last 2 years Nibali barely performed at all in the races before his GT goal. I'd say 2000 points is more realistic.

I agree Nib is not Valverde but he already scored 2800 points before and with a little consistency it may be doable.

BTW I did have a similar pick last year (sagan) at 1600 cost delivering 2200, and it was a fairly good pick IMO.

Should I have not left out Caleb Ewan and his 700 points, I would have finished very close to the Top10.

 

[IKE]

Re:

I have no riders 700+.

most expensive riders is under 650 for me as well

fisrt time i play this game lets see what happes

 

[postmanhat]

Re: Re:

I have no riders 700+.

most expensive riders is under 650 for me as well

fisrt time i play this game lets see what happes

My most expensive rider was under 650 last year and I did quite badly, mostly due to ropey fanboy picks.Have got about 3000 points to splash on the last 10 riders, so have enough for one , or even two bigger purchases this time round. Presumably your team is stuffed if they crash out for the season though. Might just play it safe again and go for a lot of 3-600 pointers.

As others have mentioned, am struggling to find a Brit rider who's good value this year, and probably no one from Sky

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

I have no riders 700+.

most expensive riders is under 650 for me as well

fisrt time i play this game lets see what happes

My most expensive rider was under 650 last year and I did quite badly, mostly due to ropey fanboy picks.Have got about 3000 points to splash on the last 10 riders, so have enough for one , or even two bigger purchases this time round. Presumably your team is stuffed if they crash out for the season though. Might just play it safe again and go for a lot of 3-600 pointers.

As others have mentioned, am struggling to find a Brit rider who's good value this year, and probably no one from Sky

I considered two British SKY riders, but I don't think either will get a lot of scoring opportunities next year.

 

[postmanhat]

Re:

I have barely taken any neo-pros or riders who haven't performed before this year. There was no need. Too many class riders having had bad years due to injuries etc have made low cost riders abundant. It's been more difficult picking riders at 500+ points. I have one guy who will make or break my team at 600+ points, who is a complete wild card..

Am the complete opposite! Have about six riders who were injured/had a bad last year, who will probably be on most teams. Apart from those, it's mostly young riders.

Will probably be kicking myself when the lists come out