Teams & Riders The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a Win

[valentius borealis]

Current standings
13 - J. Almeida
10 - G. Van Avermaet
9 - A. Greipel, M. Landa, B. Coquard
8 - A. Vlasov, N. Schultz, P. Ackermann, S. Aniołkowski
7 - N. Politt, L. Hamilton, N. Quintana, G. Lonardi
6 - N. Bouhanni, E. Bernal, F. Senechal, J. Stewart, G. Ciccone, R. Guerreiro, H. Carthy, L. Mozzato, M. Fabbro
5 - P. Barbier, K. Halvorsen, B. McNulty, L.L. Sánchez, J. Degenkolb, M. Kwiatkowski, M. Mohorič, A. Turgis, S. Higuita, M. Matthews, M. Trentin, M. Sarreau, C. Harper, I. Schelling, B. Hermans, R. Barbier, V. Albanese, Je. Herrada, R. Bardet
4 - J. Aberasturi, N. Oliveira, K. Main,, J. Romo, R. Porte, E. Theuns, G. Thomas, F. Fiorelli, M. Mørkøv, D. Teuns, S. Consonni, R. Molard, D. Godon, T. Benoot, D. van Poppel, H. Hofstetter, N. Tesfatsion, E. Grosu, F. Tagliani, A. Kristoff, J. Fuglsang, J. Knox, S.L. Henao, D. Cima

 

[RedheadDane]

Quintana and G both completely destroying their chances in this.

 

[will-10]

A good week for Richie though

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Van Wilder now has 5 top 10 finishes this season

 

[Potomac]

Almeida could put this competition out of reach in the Giro

 

[valentius borealis]

Current standings
13 - J. Almeida
10 - G. Van Avermaet
9 - A. Greipel, P. Ackermann, S. Aniołkowski, M. Landa, B. Coquard, L. Hamilton
8 - A. Vlasov, R. Porte, N. Schultz, Q. Pacher
7 - N. Politt, G. Lonardi
6 - N. Bouhanni, E. Bernal, J. Aberasturi, F. Senechal, D. van Poppel, N. Oliveira, J. Stewart, G. Ciccone, R. Guerreiro, M. Mørkøv, H. Carthy, F. Masnada, L. Mozzato, M. Fabbro, I. Van Wilder, Je. Herrada
5 - A. Vuillermoz, P. Barbier, K. Halvorsen, K. Main, B. McNulty, B. O'Connor, L.L. Sánchez, P. Bevin, J. Degenkolb, M. Kwiatkowski, M. Mohorič, A. Turgis, S. Higuita, M. Matthews, M. Trentin, M. Sarreau, C. Harper, I. Schelling, B. Hermans, R. Barbier, V. Albanese, E. Grosu, J. Restrepo, R. Bardet

 

[RedheadDane]

Well, Restrepo's appearance in this didn't last long...

 

[Bonimenier]

Almeida about to extend his lead today.

 

[will-10]

I think Almeida will win one of these Ulissi-type finishes, but part of me would love to see how high he could push the bar in this comp

 

[Panda Claws]

I thought it would be interesting to see what the biggest streak would be of not winning because of how Almeida won this competition last year and is currently at 38 Top-10 placings without a win. But then I figured this would just be won by some rider who was decent but never or almost never got a professional victory (Jurgen Van den Broeck comes to mind).

 

[Monte Serra]

Of the current active pros, either Steven Kruijswijk or Wilco Kelderman would be a good candidate. Kruijswijk's last win was in 2014 and Wilco was last victorious in 2015

 

[Monte Serra]

A quick count on PCS gave 78 top-10s for Kruijswijk and about 94 for Kelderman, since their last win.

 

[Anderis]

Benoot had a lot of top10's before his first win. It was even a meme at some poin.

 

[will-10]

I thought it would be interesting to see what the biggest streak would be of not winning because of how Almeida won this competition last year and is currently at 38 Top-10 placings without a win. But then I figured this would just be won by some rider who was decent but never or almost never got a professional victory (Jurgen Van den Broeck comes to mind).

For anyone looking to trawl these: https://www.procyclingstats.com/statistics/riders/best-rider-without-win

(JVDB has two career wins)

 

[Monte Serra]

For anyone looking to trawl these: https://www.procyclingstats.com/statistics/riders/best-rider-without-win

(JVDB has two career wins)

Pieter Sperry seems to have about 60 professional top-10 placings. For cyclists from the past PCS probably doesn't provide enough data to make firm assessments on their number of top-10s without a win.

 

[Leinster]

If Ezio Cecchie truly never won a professional bike race, then he is the God of this competition, and it must be renamed after him forthwith. Runner-up twice at the Giro, either side of WW2, and by the narrowest margin ever! Almeida can only dream of such dedication to the craft.

I can only guess that there must have been some races in his life that he actually did win, but weren't of a high enough profile to register on PCS and other record-keeping sites. But on the other hand, surely those databases have been compiled by people geeky enough to have trawled the annals of Gazzetta Dello Sport, l'Equipe, Het Volk etc, and any race that (dis)qualifies here would be counted, right?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

If Ezio Cecchie truly never won a professional bike race, then he is the God of this competition, and it must be renamed after him forthwith. Runner-up twice at the Giro, either side of WW2, and by the narrowest margin ever! Almeida can only dream of such dedication to the craft.

I can only guess that there must have been some races in his life that he actually did win, but weren't of a high enough profile to register on PCS and other record-keeping sites. But on the other hand, surely those databases have been compiled by people geeky enough to have trawled the annals of Gazzetta Dello Sport, l'Equipe, Het Volk etc, and any race that (dis)qualifies here would be counted, right?

I ended up going down a rabbit hole trying to find out if he’d ever won a race. Just about every archival site paints the same picture as PCS... but finally I found a little Dutch article about him which claims that he did have one victory, the 1946 Coppa Catarzi

 

[Leinster]

I ended up going down a rabbit hole trying to find out if he’d ever won a race. Just about every archival site paints the same picture as PCS... but finally I found a little Dutch article about him which claims that he did have one victory, the 1946 Coppa Catarzi

So now I'm googling the Coppa Catarzi and finding only references in Dutch articles to Enzo Cecchi... and Amerigo Agati, who apparently finished 5th in the 1946 Coppa Catarzi but never did enough to attract the scrutiny of PCS...

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

So now I'm googling the Coppa Catarzi and finding only references in Dutch articles to Enzo Cecchi... and Amerigo Agati, who apparently finished 5th in the 1946 Coppa Catarzi but never did enough to attract the scrutiny of PCS...

https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?id=178606

This guy?

I suppose that even if we had access to better records online, it would be difficult to answer this question historically because the current definition of a pro race is both recent and quite arbitrary. Loads of races these days are “professional” by the standards of most sports, ie have prize money and are contested by many full time paid athletes, but don’t count as “pro races”. In earlier periods that distinction didn’t exist.

 

[Panda Claws]

I ended up going down a rabbit hole trying to find out if he’d ever won a race. Just about every archival site paints the same picture as PCS... but finally I found a little Dutch article about him which claims that he did have one victory, the 1946 Coppa Catarzi

Care to link the article? Sounds interesting.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Care to link the article? Sounds interesting.

sure, here you go. theres not really too much detail in it. we need some of our real history nerds to weigh in on the coppa cartazi https://www.touretappe.nl/giro-historisch/uit-de-schaduw-ezio-cecchi/

 

[Leinster]

https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?id=178606

This guy?

I suppose that even if we had access to better records online, it would be difficult to answer this question historically because the current definition of a pro race is both recent and quite arbitrary. Loads of races these days are “professional” by the standards of most sports, ie have prize money and are contested by many full time paid athletes, but don’t count as “pro races”. In earlier periods that distinction didn’t exist.

Yes, that guy. I must've been spelling it wrong.

And yes, loads of races these days have cash prizes, and are contested by full-time athletes, but I'm sure it's been that way as long as there have been bike races, and the riders themselves, and the guys covering races for the continental sports papers, knew exactly which races were legit ("This Milano to San Remo race is really catching on with the top racers") and which weren't (whatever the 1946 equivalent of the Japan Cup was...)

 

[valentius borealis]

Current standings
16 - J. Almeida
11 - Q. Pacher
10 - A. Vlasov, G. Van Avermaet, S. Aniołkowski
9 - P. Ackermann, M. Landa, B. Coquard, L. Hamilton
8 - R. Porte, N. Oliveira, G. Ciccone, A. Vuillermoz, F. Gaviria, N. Schultz, N. Politt, R. Barbier, G. Lonardi
7 - A. Hoehn, B. Hermans, J. Lastra, F. Fiorelli, H. Carthy
6 - N. Bouhanni, J. Aberasturi, J. Piccoli, F. Senechal, D. van Poppel, K. Halvorsen, K. Main, P. Bevin, M. Sarreau, J. Stewart, J. Romo, A. Kristoff, J. Degenkolb, R. Guerreiro, M. Mørkøv, F. Masnada, L. Mozzato, M. Fabbro, I. Van Wilder, V. Albanese, R. Bardet
5 - D. Cimolai, P. Barbier, B. McNulty, B. O'Connor, L.L. Sánchez, M. Kwiatkowski, M. Mohorič, A. Turgis, S. Higuita, M. Matthews, M. Trentin, A. Pasqualon, J. García, C. Harper, I. Schelling, R. Adriá, H. Hofstetter, G. Vermeersch, E. Grosu, D. Caruso

 

[RedheadDane]

So... how big is Almeida's lead by now?

Also; Caruso out.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Almeida is increasing his lead, while Halvorsen is moving up. Coquard and Aniolkowski are not consistent enough.