The Climb (Froome's first autobiography)

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Wow. The guy has absolutely no respect. No respect for his team, his rivals, his sponsors. Nobody. He is a one-man show and he wants you to know it. He might actually have as many issues as Mr. Armstrong.

John Swanson

Game, set, match.

Also, that part about dropping the handle bar 1.5 centimeters, anyone who has ever ridden a bike knows that is BS. You'll get a hernia.

 

[thehog]

Game, set, match.

Also, that part about dropping the handle bar 1.5 centimeters, anyone who has ever ridden a bike knows that is BS. You'll get a hernia.

He did lower his seat height as well. It was recommend to go .5cm.

The Dawg went a full cm!

A man of constant marginal gains

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

He did lower his seat height as well. It was recommend to go .5cm.

The Dawg went a full cm!

A man of constant marginal gains

Yeah, even amateurs know 1 fregging mm is a fregging lot.

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Marginal gains, sky can do 5mm at a time.

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annoyed

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going to read at bike *** for a laugh

 

[doperhopper]

Read this one. Apparently when your teammate has yellow he should just hand it over to you...

told ya, Mein Climb - the first coup d'etat attempt always fails, pity he did not serve some prison time to become real fallen hero that comes from the ashes (OK, badzilla counts)

 

[Mishrak]

I don't think I've enjoyed a thread here this much since the USADA stuff was coming out in Lance's thread.

I'm completely amazed and flabbergasted at Froome's (dare I say eager?) willingness to burn existing team mates and people he's going to see in the Peleton in a few days/weeks.

It's one thing to be tactful and talk about situations and events, it's another thing to absolutely rip people to bits (Greg Henderson peeing, seriously?) and not even give a crap.

This is simply amazing. I almost feel a bit bad for Bradley Wiggins. No wonder they haven't ridden together in ages.

 

[thehog]

Yeah, even amateurs know 1 fregging mm is a fregging lot.

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Marginal gains, sky can do 5mm at a time.

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annoyed

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going to read at bike *** for a laugh

Greg Henderson is an honorary member of the Clinic as far as I'm concerned!

The Dawg doesn't like him because of that picture.... why the hate?!

 

[Franklin]

At least it confirms my opinion about that race. Sky dragged the peloton around for hours. Which, is totally, you know, normal. It happens all the time. Why, just last.... Oh, well maybe at .... Hmmm. I'll find another one like it.

Heh, let me take some credit here:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18028

 

[the sceptic]

Greg Henderson is an honorary member of the Clinic as far as I'm concerned!

The Dawg doesn't like him because of that picture.... why the hate?!

Froome is starting to make Lance look like a nice guy. This is some shameful stuff.

 

[Chaddy]

I praise Chris for the honesty he's showing in this book. Can't wait to buy it.

 

[thehog]

Froome is starting to make Lance look like a nice guy. This is some shameful stuff.

The odd part of the book is he appears l, well he is blaming the poor results on badzhilla.

However he keeps saying that in training his numbers were amazing. He says Jullich and Ellingsworth confirm this - same old Froomey.

I guess who knew that Badzhilla selected it's times to strike? Only in races!

The weight loss, the power increase, the new found TT ability is not explained at all.

Even during the Vuelta 11 it's just described normally.

 

[Franklin]

Froome is starting to make Lance look like a nice guy. This is some shameful stuff.

It's different. Lance is really easy to understand:

He's a bully and a liar, but with a clear goal. Everything he says and does is to promote LANCE.

But this... well. I'm not seeing how this is in anyway positive for Froome. Even if of all those pages these are the only crazy stuff it's still just bat**** paranoia/narcism/phantasyland.

And tbh... someone that driven, that convinced he needs to be #1, opinion here and not a fact, but well, you got to wonder what barriers he has of stepping over the line just to get what's his by right.

 

[Franklin]

The odd part of the book is he appears l, well he is blaming the poor results on badzhilla.

However he keeps saying that in training his numbers were amazing. He says Jullich and Ellingsworth confirm this - same old Froomey.

I guess who knew that Badzhilla selected it's times to strike? Only in races!

I'm also not understanding that part. So even with Badzhilla he pushes insane numbers, yet that same Badzhilla somehow blocks him at races. I'm really sure it's not how it works.

 

[thrawn]

Jesus Christ. This guy has entered Lance-like levels of ******baggery.

Seriously, tries pushing Henderson out of the way then is like, why you so mad bro when he reacts? What a ****.

 

[BYOP88]

It's different. Lance is really easy to understand:

He's a bully and a liar, but with a clear goal. Everything he says and does is to promote LANCE.

But this... well. I'm not seeing how this is in anyway positive for Froome. Even if of all those pages these are the only crazy stuff it's still just bat**** paranoia/narcism/phantasyland.

And tbh... someone that driven, that convinced he needs to be #1, opinion here and not a fact, but well, you got to wonder what barriers he has of stepping over the line just to get what's his by right.

Like identity thief, when he borrowed the email account of the Kenyan cycling official?

 

[SeriousSam]

dear oh dear what a gigantic ******bag this guy appears to be. how anyone can not only root for him bu incessantly defend him against all reason is beyond me

 

[peacefultribe]

This is priceless, pure comedy. Karma will be a *****, can't wait to read "The Fall".

 

[biokemguy]

How dumb is he?

/tinfoil hat on/
Anyone think that maybe Froome doesn't actually know himself how he suddenly got so fast? Sounds crazy, but if a doctor is just doing some experiment on him without him knowing, it would explain why he's so confident he'll never get caught. There is precedent for riders getting 'vitamin' injections that they didn't question, but he takes it to another level.
/tinfoil hat off/

The level of stupidity and hubris coming through in the excerpts posted so far make it hard to believe he could manage his own program outside of the team.

 

[thehog]

/tinfoil hat on/
Anyone think that maybe Froome doesn't actually know himself how he suddenly got so fast? Sounds crazy, but if a doctor is just doing some experiment on him without him knowing, it would explain why he's so confident he'll never get caught. There is precedent for riders getting 'vitamin' injections that they didn't question, but he takes it to another level.
/tinfoil hat off/

The level of stupidity and hubris coming through in the excerpts posted so far make it hard to believe he could manage his own program outside of the team.

It's not just Froome. He's coupled with David Walsh. That's a vortexed-reality-distortion field like no other.

 

[Benotti69]

/tinfoil hat on/
Anyone think that maybe Froome doesn't actually know himself how he suddenly got so fast? Sounds crazy, but if a doctor is just doing some experiment on him without him knowing, it would explain why he's so confident he'll never get caught. There is precedent for riders getting 'vitamin' injections that they didn't question, but he takes it to another level.
/tinfoil hat off/

The level of stupidity and hubris coming through in the excerpts posted so far make it hard to believe he could manage his own program outside of the team.

Anything is possible in this sport.

 

[Vino's Mum]

The weight loss, the power increase, the new found TT ability is not explained at all.

Even during the Vuelta 11 it's just described normally.

So, Froome's only in the race because Lars Petter Nordhaug had to pull out, yet he comes second to Tony Martin in the time trial, pulls on the leader's jersey, and just carries on domming for Wiggins until Pena Cabarga... and all this is nothing out of the ordinary, and he doesn't at any stage wonder (or explain) how's he suddenly so good at cycling? Seriously?

 

[DirtyWorks]

The odd part of the book is he appears l, well he is blaming the poor results on badzhilla.

However he keeps saying that in training his numbers were amazing. He says Jullich and Ellingsworth confirm this - same old Froomey.

I guess who knew that Badzhilla selected it's times to strike? Only in races!

The weight loss, the power increase, the new found TT ability is not explained at all.

Even during the Vuelta 11 it's just described normally.

Makes perfect sense to me. It happens all the time. Why do you and Vino's Mum hate Froome? Maybe it's because you both hate winning.

 

[red_flanders]

dear oh dear what a gigantic ******bag this guy appears to be. how anyone can not only root for him bu incessantly defend him against all reason is beyond me

The key is to incessantly defend him while stating you're not defending him. Very zen.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Game, set, match.

Also, that part about dropping the handle bar 1.5 centimeters, anyone who has ever ridden a bike knows that is BS. You'll get a hernia.

What? Nevermind what the rest of the cyclists the world over experience. 40 more watts is what you get when you are Froomie.

What's Ms. Cound going to say when the wheels come off this sporting fraud?

 

[Merckx index]

So, apparently his racing weight is 66kg and he averaged 459 watts up the Madone. That's 6.95 W/Kg for 30 min, seems legit.

66kg it is.

If the climb was 13.3 km, the longest it could be, his VAM would indicate 6.75 watts/kg (assuming no wind). Then 459 watts would indicate 68 kg. But he implies he started where LA did, and LA implied he started 12 km from the top. That would make it 6.16 watts/kg and 74.5 kg.

So either he a) beat LA’s time while riding more than a km further, and that into a significant headwind; or b) he rode the same 12 km as LA, but there was a very strong headwind on the climb.

If it really was 6.95 watts/kg, that is far above what Ross Tucker, e.g., believes is possible. It would indicate an outlier V02max coupled with an outlier efficiency and an outlier lactate threshold. But if he did 6.95, then Porte was about 6.90.

Again, we have discussed Schisto extensively here, and what Froome says about it does not jibe with what research articles and posters here who have actually treated it say.

But hog, what does he say about his transformation in August 2011? Any explanation at all for the huge improvement?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

If the climb was 13.3 km, the longest it could be, his VAM would indicate 6.75 watts/kg (assuming no wind). Then 459 watts would indicate 68 kg. But he implies he started where LA did, and LA implied he started 12 km from the top. That would make it 6.16 watts/kg and 74.5 kg.

So either he a) beat LA