The Climb (Froome's first autobiography)

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How much of the meltdown we witnessed is due to the crash, due to the TUE debacle or due to realising that the coffeedrinker is much stronger than he had ever believed?

Also, how big will the grin of Wiggins be today?

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I think the Inhaler is probably shaken to his very core that he cant just ride off without even trying but I think the crash really affected him. he will have that 2013 tour form, and is still to be favored.


Nice picture, finally I've found what the following is based on!

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Franklin said:
How much of the meltdown we witnessed is due to the crash, due to the TUE debacle or due to realising that the coffeedrinker is much stronger than he had ever believed?

Also, how big will the grin of Wiggins be today?

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Like to hear the opinion of a pro set-up specialist on this FroomeDawg tidbit. Steve Hogg would be a go-to man on this. He used to have a very valuable and informative column on this site pre-Future Publishing.
He'll call shenanigans straight out. A 15mm drop at the front, with no repositioning of saddle height/setback or pad stack/setback is ridiculous unless you had one of the worst TT positions ever seen, which you'd think would never happen in the first place on such a "cutting edge team."

Adapting to such a change would take anywhere up to three weeks, as his hip flexors, TFLs and VMOs would have been screaming courtesy of the drastically changed loading patterns. That is NOT a "marginal" position change.

Yet our hero does it all on race day :rolleyes:
 
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Adapting to such a change would take anywhere up to three weeks, as his hip flexors, TFLs and VMOs would have been screaming courtesy of the drastically changed loading patterns. That is NOT a "marginal" position change.

Yet our hero does it all on race day :rolleyes:

Haven't you heard? Froome has "crazy adaptive physiology" - the new black when it comes to explaining inexplicable jumps in performance.
 
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Froome at 2010 Nats TT :rolleyes:

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How many spacers can you guys count? What about pad spacers?

Here he is again at the 2011 Tour de Suisse....

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My brain hurts.
 
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Now for his '13 TdF TT position

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Is this guy capable of telling even a single word of truth :confused:
 

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Now for his '13 TdF TT position

Is this guy capable of telling even a single word of truth :confused:

Perhaps slightly simplistic but considering he claims to have dropped his saddle height and then brought the headset down the net effect would be... nothing in terms of aerodynamic positioning.

But yes looking at the photographs his position has changed little. He claims the changed was made in 2011 before the Vuelta.
 
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I love this thread, the more I read the more I laugh...but seriously at some point he has to get popped.

I am wondering what the reader reviews are like on the websites that sell this book....
 
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I love this thread, the more I read the more I laugh...but seriously at some point he has to get popped.

I am wondering what the reader reviews are like on the websites that sell this book....

You have to buy the book to read the reviews and no one but sky fans is going to do that
 
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He'll call shenanigans straight out. A 15mm drop at the front, with no repositioning of saddle height/setback or pad stack/setback is ridiculous unless you had one of the worst TT positions ever seen, which you'd think would never happen in the first place on such a "cutting edge team."

Adapting to such a change would take anywhere up to three weeks, as his hip flexors, TFLs and VMOs would have been screaming courtesy of the drastically changed loading patterns. That is NOT a "marginal" position change.

Yet our hero does it all on race day :rolleyes:

Yup/ Add to that the risk one takes of injury due to such a sudden change and, well, it's all BS.
 
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msjett said:
I am wondering what the reader reviews are like on the websites that sell this book....

Go to

US Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/The-Climb-Aut...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
UK Amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Climb-A...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

etc for reviews.

Pretty much what you read here - some people love him regardless, some people no longer love him due to the whining, and some people wonder wtf happened in 2011, which was left out by Walsh, just as it was left out of the power files given to Grappe and therefore left a gaping hole in the history of the inexplicable rise of Chris Froome.

crazy adapative phsyiology aside, of course.
 
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Ripper said:
Well ... 15 mm in the front is a big drop and big changes are not usually something you want to even think about right before a stage, unless something is broken/not working. We also know that dropping the front is not necessarily going to make you faster and there are numerous factors that impact aero. That is why wind tunnel testing can be so useful - if it was all "how low can you go" then you would not need to use a wind tunnel. Add that there is an aero/power output balance, and it makes the whole experiment that Froome describes all the more risky.

A man of constant marginal gains. More like a man full of shit.

This. But to me it reads like Walsh type ***. Cultivating an image for his hero like any fiction writer.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
Go to

US Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/The-Climb-Aut...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
UK Amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Climb-A...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

etc for reviews.

Pretty much what you read here - some people love him regardless, some people no longer love him due to the whining, and some people wonder wtf happened in 2011, which was left out by Walsh, just as it was left out of the power files given to Grappe and therefore left a gaping hole in the history of the inexplicable rise of Chris Froome.

crazy adapative phsyiology aside, of course.

Thanks DW for the links... I had a few more laughs.
 

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Dear Wiggo said:
Go to

US Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/The-Climb-Aut...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
UK Amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Climb-A...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

etc for reviews.

Pretty much what you read here - some people love him regardless, some people no longer love him due to the whining, and some people wonder wtf happened in 2011, which was left out by Walsh, just as it was left out of the power files given to Grappe and therefore left a gaping hole in the history of the inexplicable rise of Chris Froome.

crazy adapative phsyiology aside, of course.

I follow cycling but not so closely as to know all the ins and outs. So I read this book with interest to see who is the exact Chris Froome. I would imagine most people would want the inside info on the Wiggins vs Froome situation as heavily reported in the media. This is in here but there's so much more too. I couldn't help after finishing this book have nothing but admiration for Chris and his outlook on life. What a star and what an excellent read. Best cycling autobiography ever?!

Yes agree! Best cycling autobiography ever! :rolleyes: or at least the funniest!
 
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thehog said:
I follow cycling but not so closely as to know all the ins and outs. So I read this book with interest to see who is the exact Chris Froome. I would imagine most people would want the inside info on the Wiggins vs Froome situation as heavily reported in the media. This is in here but there's so much more too. I couldn't help after finishing this book have nothing but admiration for Chris and his outlook on life. What a star and what an excellent read. Best cycling autobiography ever?!
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thehog said:
Perhaps slightly simplistic but considering he claims to have dropped his saddle height and then brought the headset down the net effect would be... nothing in terms of aerodynamic positioning.

But yes looking at the photographs his position has changed little. He claims the changed was made in 2011 before the Vuelta.
Slightly simplistic? Look at where the stem is in the Suisse photo. The only way Froome's getting that stem any lower is with a belt sander - it's already on the headset!
 

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Slightly simplistic? Look at where the stem is in the Suisse photo. The only way Froome's getting that stem any lower is with a belt sander - it's already on the headset!

Yes but Pro bikes are built to fit so if the bike has changed and the new measurement will be flat to the frame.

Its only dweebs like us who actually need spacers because we can't afford the cost of sawing carbon in half and replacement frame if the fit is not correct.

Now in saying all this I find the who concept of seat adjustment etc. for his extra power ludicrous. Bike adjustment is comfort and not getting injured not finding 40 watts. Yes you can go for longer at your top rate but it doesn't find you that amount of watts.

There's a section in the book which I find complexly absurd is the 2010 Giro where Froome claims his knee injury was because his saddle was too high. Yes that happens to Fred's on the weekend, not to Pro's who have the ability to have their position checked on a regular basis.

The guy is a total fraud. My take is that Walsh was not aware of the TUE or asthma. I think Chris and Dave might break up?! :eek:
 
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Slightly simplistic? Look at where the stem is in the Suisse photo. The only way Froome's getting that stem any lower is with a belt sander - it's already on the headset!

I dont really want to defend the red hot little turd but the difference is in the bike - the 2011 has that fugly stem, whereas the 2013 is totally integrated - its definitely lower.

that is a complete new bike though, not the kind of change you do overnight.

TBH even the slowest UK tester would not feck around with their position right before an important race. We manage to work that out from the layby while doing nothing more dangerous than a cup of tea - I just cannot believe marginal gains Sky/BC would allow that in the way described in this book.

He'll pop soon, or someone will spill the beans, I'm sure
 
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thehog said:
Greg Henderson is an honorary member of the Clinic as far as I'm concerned! :cool:

The Dawg doesn't like him because of that picture.... why the hate?!

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Check Cound's latest tweet.

15 places??