The doped bike exists (video of pro version)!

[blackcat]

Re:

There is precedent in other sports:

* hollow (?) baseball bats
* sand paper in the pocket to rough up cricket balls
* semi deflated (?) footballs

nails and vaseline(petroleum jelly), shoe sole studs for scuffing cricket balls, aluminium bats in cricket. Some of those are seen, some are invisible cheating.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Yeah, and Andre Greipel is a Cyberman............

Oh dear, I shouldn't have said anything..............this will be regarded as established fact now............

oh i wouldn't worry, with a name like Handy Bendy Ghandi, nothing will be taken as fact.

 

[Benotti69]

BMC dont really get the motodoping thing do they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKWDjzRf_G4

 

[Handy Bendy Ghandi]

Re: Re:

Yeah, and Andre Greipel is a Cyberman............

Oh dear, I shouldn't have said anything..............this will be regarded as established fact now............

oh i wouldn't worry, with a name like Handy Bendy Ghandi, nothing will be taken as fact.

Oi, I'm all for passive resistance !

 

[Catwhoorg]

Re:

There is precedent in other sports:

* hollow (?) baseball bats
* sand paper in the pocket to rough up cricket balls
* semi deflated (?) footballs

Funny thing with corked bats in baseball, they actually hit the ball with less power than a regular bat.

Its been proven multiple times, and even the Mythbusters did a segment on it.


yet people still do it.

 

[ray j willings]

Re: Re:

There is precedent in other sports:

* hollow (?) baseball bats
* sand paper in the pocket to rough up cricket balls
* semi deflated (?) footballs

Funny thing with corked bats in baseball, they actually hit the ball with less power than a regular bat.

Its been proven multiple times, and even the Mythbusters did a segment on it.

yet people still do it.

Mythbusters are a joke....They themselves have been busted many times.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Corked bats may have an advantage if you are a percentage hitter playing small ball, it may marginally improve the ability to adjust to the ball in flight.

The modern era power hitters, not at all.

 

[veganrob]

Sammy Sosa got busted for corked bats. He was a home run hitter. Of course he was also juiced up pretty good.

 

[dwyatt]

Clearest motorised doping yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQW8OX8VqA

 

[Texeng]

Re:

Clearest motorised doping yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQW8OX8VqA

No need to test the bike on that one

 

[Dear Wiggo]

So this got posted on twitter: http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/05-09-2015/motorini-elettrici-nascosti-telaio-o-ruote-bici-vi-diciamo-tutto-13010269705.shtml

Anyone with Spanish skills care to comment?

Apparently he's saying "Hide it" but why would you do that right in front of spectators, and in front of someone obviously holding a video camera?

 

[chuckmicD]

Didn't hear anything about hiding...just to I think put it in another car...

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Didn't hear anything about hiding...just to I think put it in another car...

Any idea why the seat+post would be removed?

 

[nogav1ca]

So they can put it into a car or maybe that it doesn't clash with other bikes' handlebars on a roof.
It looked like it was some "universal" bike if a rider break his main and spare bike.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Really fishy to say the least

 

[WillemS]

Re: Re:

Mythbusters are a joke....They themselves have been busted many times.

I disagree. They don't test ideas with true scientific rigor, but they do a great job of taking an idea, not taking it for granted, but putting it to the test. That's a great attitude, in my opinion, and fully worthy to display on a television show. Are their results truly and fully trustworthy? Probably not. That's why I think their results have no true place in a proper debate other than anecdotal or conversational.

 

[WillemS]

Re:

Apparently he's saying "Hide it" but why would you do that right in front of spectators, and in front of someone obviously holding a video camera?

I think this is the most important part. However, that could be explained by the stress of having something you don't have.

I don't know, though, this is hardly any conclusive evidence and I don't have a clue what he's actually saying, as I don't speak the language. If it turns out to be something, then it's the worst job of hiding something I've ever seen.

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

So this got posted on twitter: http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/05-09-2015/motorini-elettrici-nascosti-telaio-o-ruote-bici-vi-diciamo-tutto-13010269705.shtml

Anyone with Spanish skills care to comment?

Apparently he's saying "Hide it" but why would you do that right in front of spectators, and in front of someone obviously holding a video camera?

When people are under stress they dont necessarily notice what is going on around them. The 'fan' was holding a phone, i guess, rather than a camera so that may not have registered with the mechanic, but Gazetta and AS think it points to motorised bikes.

AS(Spanish Publication) are asking why the mechanic said "esconde la bici que no se vea", which google translates (badly) into "it hides bike that is not seen".....

 

[BigMac]

^^

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

A very strange video, anyone with a translation yet?

 

[Volderke]

No panic.

frame was a broken 2016 model Canyon Aeroad.

So the intention of the DS was to have the bike somewhere hidden so that the photographers at the finish wouldn't see it, and clearly the best place to dump it was to give it to the soigneur in the feeding zone.
So the most obvious reason to hide it was because a broken frame of a new model = bad publicity on the inter webs for Canyon. Nothing more, nothing less. So all the conspiracy seems to me a case of people that are really not in the know of what happens in the average pro cycling team, searching for pink invisible unicorns.

And no, there were no photographers / cameras around, except for the random phone (everyone has a camera now).

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

No panic.

frame was a broken 2016 model Canyon Aeroad.

So the intention of the DS was to have the bike somewhere hidden so that the photographers at the finish wouldn't see it, and clearly the best place to dump it was to give it to the soigneur in the feeding zone.
So the most obvious reason to hide it was because a broken frame of a new model = bad publicity on the inter webs for Canyon. Nothing more, nothing less. So all the conspiracy seems to me a case of people that are really not in the know of what happens in the average pro cycling team, searching for pink invisible unicorns.

And no, there were no photographers / cameras around, except for the random phone (everyone has a camera now).

Nice explanation, but carbon frames breaking is nothing new, so why the need to hide it and why would a team care, it is the sponsors (in this case Canyon) who should be worried not movistar, in fact if i was movistar i would be leaving it lying around for journalists to photograph and get a better deal out of Canyon.

 

[Arked]

Re: Re:

No panic.

frame was a broken 2016 model Canyon Aeroad.

That would explain why seatpost was removed from the bike. It was probably torn off.

 

[bewildered]

"esconde la bici que no se vea" literally means "hide the bike so that it is not seen", ie that nobody sees it. There is absolutely no evidence of a motor here, don't even see the bike in motion. Explanation (that it would be bad news for the sponsor and they wouldn't be happy) is at least plausible imo. Already other better evidence out there.

 

[ray j willings]

I Posted this in the pro gear thread , suspicious ?
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/09/movistar-explains-controversial-bike-change-damage-rather-than-a-motor/