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The doped bike exists (video of pro version)!

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sniper said:
...I don't think motorization is currently widespread at all, but to use 'ethics' or 'risk' as an argument as to why it may or may not have happened, that just doesn't cut it.
Props for being right about the real-world implementation of motodoping (motordoping).

I still believe my skepticism was warranted and measured, but clearly motodoping is real and practiced at the highest levels of elite cycling.

Cheers
 
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Cheers Joe! That's classy.
Though admittedly I wasn't the only seeing the smoke and thinking something must be burning.
And still a lot of questions to be answered of course.
Seems this Femke case is going to raise a whole series of new questions about the quality&detectability of newer systems, about the diffusion among pro's, etc.
Personally, I still don't think it's widespread, although yes I think it's happening and yes, I think Cancellara is the most clear-cut case besides Femke.

ray j willings said:
this remains dodgy.
the explanation sounds phony.
you don't go around saying "hide the bike!" just out of respect for your sponsor.
 
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Metabolol said:
Yeah, Cancellara is an obvious moto doper. Is moto doping how Froome went from nobody to TDF winner?
he may have played with some motorized device on the ventoux, but other than that? doubtful imo. At least i haven't seen (m)any Froome jumps similar to that one on the Ventoux.

Sky would no doubt love to see us shifting the focus on motors, as it would deflect away from their rampant, old school doping for which there is plenty of evidence, whereas the motor discussion would be one big speculation (well, except perhaps for Froome's Ventoux jump away from Contador).
 
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sniper said:
Metabolol said:
Yeah, Cancellara is an obvious moto doper. Is moto doping how Froome went from nobody to TDF winner?
he may have played with some motorized device on the ventoux, but other than that? doubtful imo. At least i haven't seen (m)any Froome jumps similar to that one on the Ventoux.

Sky would no doubt love to see us shifting the focus on motors, as it would deflect away from their rampant, old school doping for which there is plenty of evidence, whereas the motor discussion would be one big speculation (well, except perhaps for Froome's Ventoux jump away from Contador).

Whether or not that's the only true evidence of Froome using a motored bike, it's still significant. If this 19 year old Belgian can get busted for it at the B of Bang, then the big boys should as well. It looked cartoonish the way he rode up the Ventoux that day. He's had other moments as well, but that was obvious. Physically doped AND his equipment is doped? How the heck can you beat that? Oh wait, others probably engaging in similar activity within the pro peloton. This whole thing is like one big mess that keeps turning on its head. I am glad I am not a pro cyclist right now. Just my opinion.
 
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I think Fabian was indeed the one who pioneered moto doping to peloton. More time passes, the more his Flanders-Roubaix double in 2010 looks fishy. I already thought at the time that he indeed did it. But to me I just don't think it was the first time that he did it, his Mendrisio 2009 TT was surreal, I mean out of this world. I don't know if this has been posted already but he had special bike painted for that TT, and he was training on it before the event at Mendrisio

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But the bike he chose to ride at the event was a different one

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