The doped bike exists (video of pro version)!

[la.margna]

UCI to introduce motor scanners for Tour de France

Scanners to help combat 'mechanical doping' are to be introduced for next month's Tour de France.

Excellent UCI strategy to tipp off the potential cheaters in advance...

 

[Benotti69]

Excellent UCI strategy to tipp off the potential cheaters in advance...

yeah, but for which teams will it be switched on and which ones switched off...

 

[la.margna]

yeah, but for which teams will it be switched on and which ones switched off...

I guess one team where it will be switched off, is a given

 

[Mambo95]

I guess one team where it will be switched off, is a given

Yamaha?

Personally I don't trust Valentino Rossi - he's seems too fast to me.

 

[Magnific0]

UCI to introduce motor scanners for Tour de France

Scanners to help combat 'mechanical doping' are to be introduced for next month's Tour de France.

Heh heh, just opened my new issue of Cycling PLUS. Check out Bell's advert for it's new helmet "Volt" with a picture dominating the page with guess who?
Cancellara in that famous attack in Flanders.
Is his new nickname to be "Sparkticus" how long before Bell's joint owner issues a Giro "Electra" helmet. Is this where they are now hiding the batteries, in the helmets.
The branding boys at Specialised or Trek must be kicking themselves as someone has already got "wattbike"
Forget PED's the new kid on the block is IED (internal electrical device)
Get your IED and guarantee an explosive performance !!!!!!!!!!

 

[DarkWing]

http://videos.apnicommunity.com/Video,Item,795924686.html can someone recap what is said here? My french isnt good enough to catch it all.

 

[Anonymous]

So after saying the idea of motorized bikes was ridiciculous the UCI are now going to scan for them..

what a turn around

 

[la.margna]

http://videos.apnicommunity.com/Video,Item,795924686.html can someone recap what is said here? My french isnt good enough to catch it all.

get a french girlfriend

well, essentially Durand says that it is highly likely that FC's bike change was pre-planned and not a mechanical problem. He changed bike at 57km to go to the finish and did get a bike without a bidon (drinking bottle). In the meantime, Breschel wants to change his bike. Matti is surprised that there's no mechanic in the car. The change turns out into a big time-consuming mess and he gets O'Grady's bike instead of his replacement bike. FC's initial bike is not on the team car. When FC attacks on the Molenberg and goes away with Boonen he seems to be riding with his initial bike again (with a bidon). They show with a screenshot from live coverage and amateur video that Roger Theel, the mechanic was not in the team car when Matti changed bike because he was on his way to the church of Mater (1.3km direct distance from first bike change) to give back the initial bike to FC.

So Durand asks why the heck can't he ride with his replacement bike? What did the mechanic do in the meantime? Durand even tells that Saxobank told them when asked that the mechanic was not in the car because he was forgotten. Which is bull**** and a lie, because Riis told Danish newspaper politiken already on April 4 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://politiken.dk/sport/cykling/article939408.ece what happened (google translated): "When Matti have changed bike, no mechanic in the service cart. "He changed too, and when the mechanic had repaired the damage to the original, shot him in another car shortcut route to Fabian could get his bike again."

Whatever...

 

[la.margna]

Finally we see a video of somebody riding a doped road bike

http://bit.ly/dyaHyv

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Doped bike mentioned on PTI (ESPN Show)

The inspection of the bikes was mentioned on Pardon the Interruption yesterday.
Once again, cycling gets to be the **** end of a joke and used for comic relief by the primary media outlet for sports in the US.

 

[Elagabalus]

Well ...

judging by the Gruber Assist Youtube video it appears that the GA is direct drive only-meaning you cannot stop pedaling unless you turn the unit off. So those feeling inclined should checkout whether FC pedals through every corner or slips a hand up to the same spot (somewhere on the bars?) to toggle off the unit so his pedals don't hit the ground in a turn.

Just sayin" ...

 

[Anonymous]

Well ...

judging by the Gruber Assist Youtube video it appears that the GA is direct drive only-meaning you cannot stop pedaling unless you turn the unit off. So those feeling inclined should checkout whether FC pedals through every corner or slips a hand up to the same spot (somewhere on the bars?) to toggle off the unit so his pedals don't hit the ground in a turn.

Just sayin" ...

You need to go watch the video from Italian TV. That one stops the motor when you stop peddling. You don't have to hit any switch. That or you can watch the video above.

Just sayin'...

 

[la.margna]

Well ...

judging by the Gruber Assist Youtube video it appears that the GA is direct drive only-meaning you cannot stop pedaling unless you turn the unit off. So those feeling inclined should checkout whether FC pedals through every corner or slips a hand up to the same spot (somewhere on the bars?) to toggle off the unit so his pedals don't hit the ground in a turn.

Just sayin" ...

as mentioned several times in the thread. Gruber Assist is no option for a pro or FC in particular. No support of carbon frames, does not fit into specialized tube. The model shown by Cassani was developed in Hungary by István Varjas.

 

[blackcat]

Il giornalista Michele Bufalino è stato ascoltato dai carabinieri Nas di Torino nell'ambito dell'inchiesta aperta dal Pm del capoluogo piemontese Raffaele Guariniello per frode sportiva sulle cosiddette ''bici motorizzate'' tra i ciclisti professionisti.
Bufalino - autore di un video che su Youtube ha già raggiunto oltre tre milioni di contatti e che si incentra sulle vittorie di Fabian Cancellara all'ultimo Fiandre e alla Roubaix -, ha sollevando dubbi in relazione all'ipotizzato uso delle 'bici motorizzate', cioé dotate di un motorino nascosto nei telai e che consentirebbe, con una sorta di ''pedalata assistita'' e un notevole risparimio di potenza.
«Dalle indiscrezioni - ha spiegato Ivano Fanini, patron dell'Amore & Vita Conad, che per primo aveva chiesto l'apertura di un'inchiesta della magistratura - risulterebbe che Bufalino abbia parlato con il Luogotenente Buccola, che sta seguendo la vicenda per conto di Guariniello, riferendogli un dettagliato resoconto degli ultimi due mesi e di come si è evoluta la faccenda. E' stata ricostruita la cronologia storica della vicenda».
«I sospetti - ha aggiunto Fanini - sono focalizzati sulla bicicletta scoperta dal giornalista della Tv Svizzera Antonio Ferretti, che ha trovato l'inventore ungherese Istvan Varjas. Bufalino ha detto che la bici fatta vedere da Davide Cassani durante il Giro d'Italia è la stessa bici mostrata anche a Ferretti da Varjas. Sembra che i Nas stiano percorrendo più strade in queste indagini e siano a buon punto. Molte altre cose sono emerse dagli interrogatori di ieri e molti altri personaggi importanti sono stati ascoltati in Procura» (Tuttobici)

Basically, Bufalino, the guy who put together the famous YouTube video, was questioned yesterday by the judge Guarinello. He says that the bike shown to Ferretti (a Swiss commentator who also did a story of the electric bikes during Tour de Suisse) was the same bike shown to Cassani during the Giro. Ferretti found the inventor,a Hungarian, Istvan Varjas. It seems that NAS is examining a number of leads, and that the investigations are proceeding well. A lot of other things are emerging from the interrogations and many people are being heard by the Judge.

The rest just describes history of the scandal.

 

[les95035]

Has anyone talked about how a framebuilder would have to be involved? the motor would produce a large amount of torque, so the frame would have to have internal ribs to keep the motor from counter-rotating, The downtube would be the best choice because of it's larger diameter, bottle cage bolts could be used to charge the battery, maybe even for start/stop.
but how would you disguise the extra weight?

 

[Mambo95]

Basically, Bufalino, the guy who put together the famous YouTube video, was questioned yesterday by the judge Guarinello. He says that the bike shown to Ferretti (a Swiss commentator who also did a story of the electric bikes during Tour de Suisse) was the same bike shown to Cassani during the Giro. Ferretti found the inventor,a Hungarian, Istvan Varjas. It seems that NAS is examining a number of leads, and that the investigations are proceeding well. A lot of other things are emerging from the interrogations and many people are being heard by the Judge.

The rest just describes history of the scandal.

Has the world really got to the stage that YouTube conspiracy theorists are being called as witnesses? Why not ask the guy who does the Twisted Spoke blog (Matt Walsh). He has more of a grasp on reality.

http://www.atwistedspoke.com/2010/06/13/cancellara-wins-tour-de-suisee-prologue-on-non-motorized-bike/

If so these quotes count as evidence Judge Guarinello:

"According to the fans gathered along the race course, Cancellara made no “zoom-zoom” sounds when he blasted past them."

"Andy Schleck (Saxo Bank) was 31st at 24 seconds — so you can be sure his bike wasn’t motorized or else the motor was broken."

 

[JPM London]

Has the world really got to the stage that YouTube conspiracy theorists are being called as witnesses? Why not ask the guy who does the Twisted Spoke blog (Matt Walsh). He has more of a grasp on reality.

http://www.atwistedspoke.com/2010/06/13/cancellara-wins-tour-de-suisee-prologue-on-non-motorized-bike/

If so these quotes count as evidence Judge Guarinello:

"According to the fans gathered along the race course, Cancellara made no “zoom-zoom” sounds when he blasted past them."

"Andy Schleck (Saxo Bank) was 31st at 24 seconds — so you can be sure his bike wasn’t motorized or else the motor was broken."

Dammit! Promised myself not to post on this ridiculous thread, but just had to after this...

That twisted spoke thing was hilarious! Mechanical passport... Wonder if they're going to do unannounced carbon testing and create a longitudinal bike profile

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

Exclusive video of Cancellaras bike change

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljy_FgMM3G4&NR=1

This made me laugh really hard...


also found this regarding the Hungarian Inventor.

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/hungarian-claims-speedy-hidden-electric-motor-26594

 

[Parrot23]

First video is totally hilarious, esp. the part where he accelerates on the funky bike sitting upright.

As is Basso's latest comment/mistranslation maybe:

"If I want to beat Contador, the opportunities are in the Alps and the Pyrenees. I’m praying that I can repeat the magic of the Zoncolan (stage 15 of the Giro), when 3km from the finish I felt a click, something moved inside of me and I went away from Evans”.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/basso-i-want-to-win-the-tour

As is Specialized latest offering, The Roubaix....ridden by......ahem, Tom Boonen and the Ducati fellow:

http://cdn.specialized.com/bc/microsite/roubaix_new/main.html?lang=English

As Specialized, Trek, Cannondale would have it, the bike is definitely why these guys win, yet at same time are undoubtedly upset at the suggestion of motos

 

[TyrellDirt]

Finally!!
Specialized came out with their electrically assisted bike.
and they're selling it as the Roubaix SL3.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features...11-road-new-roubaix-sl3-allez-and-crux/128130
I'm gonna be buying one.
And the battery should last all week.

--I'm joking
And i get the point that Specialized is joking as well.---

 

[Lion of Flanders]

Cancellara and his "motor"

Hey All:

Does anyone out there really think that Cancellara used a motor assisted bike to win at Flanders and/or Roubaix?

I can see people considering that it might theoretically be possible to use a motor in a pro race and that steps might need to be taken to check for such.

But, asserting that Cancellara used a motor is pretty absurd (seems to me anyway).

So... what do you think?

 

[hughmoore]

Hey All:

Does anyone out there really think that Cancellara used a motor assisted bike to win at Flanders and/or Roubaix?

No, its ridiculous.

 

[ihavenolimbs]

Hey All:

Does anyone out there really think that Cancellara used a motor assisted bike to win at Flanders and/or Roubaix?

No.

There are "stealth" motor kits to convert a standard road bike, but:
1/ They aren't silent, and leading at Paris-Roubaix tends to draw a bit of attention, so I would think that journos and spectators would notice.

2/ Electric motors need batteries to power them, and a useful amount of energy storage is large enough to be a pain to conceal.

3/ The engineering required to overcome 1 & 2 would be very expensive, and there would be too many non-Saxo Bank people "in-the-loop".

At the amateur level it could be possible, due to there being few spectators on course and poor equipment checking. But ProTour? I doubt it. (Though "Mr 60%" would probably try it if he thought he could get away with it?)

 

[Cozy Beehive]

Hey All:

Does anyone out there really think that Cancellara used a motor assisted bike to win at Flanders and/or Roubaix?

I can see people considering that it might theoretically be possible to use a motor in a pro race and that steps might need to be taken to check for such.

But, asserting that Cancellara used a motor is pretty absurd (seems to me anyway).

So... what do you think?

Check the archives. Topic was discussed at length. http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=7745

 

[Parrot23]

Third thread as Saxo continues its sponsor search....