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mewmewmew13

mewmewmew13

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silverrocket said:
The American public has largely ignored or remained indifferent to the Armstrong/USADA "issue", but a witness against LA that is also a celebrity? And a celebrity that is also a cancer survivor? The popular press will grab hold and shake until there is nothing left of LA but an empty husk.
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Haha...I think this is colorful and quite realistic imagery.:D


...I meant to add, that unless this is made a sticky, as we already have many that are repositories for facts and links only, that this thread is doomed to being 'evidence' mixed with much discussion.

Personally, it seems that we have some stickies that might crossover some of this info...or used to have ...I haven't checked lately. :confused:
 
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Does anyone recall LA making a comment about how Iban Mayo's best days were behind him? I found that bit from TH interesting.
 
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hiero2 said:
Personally, my preference would be, and this is what I was thinking, to return to RR's original intent, as seconded by BB, and confirmed by Palmerq (mod) - a repository of evidence or reports of evidence in publicly available documents, pertaining primarily to USADA vs Lance Armstrong, but including good reporting of other Lance Armstrong evidence as may be brought forth. Example: post #14, where TubularBills brings in test results and conclusions from another thread in the forum.

It seems to me that the first links in this thread contained old evidence, but still valid, I think. Subsequent posts will hopefully contain what the USADA releases as evidence. Given that this forum is not a court, I think evidence can include any publicly available documentation or journalistic reporting. Therefore, such items as Hamilton's book (and reviews), and Outside's new Mike Anderson article would qualify. They are first person accounts, and thus would count, to some degree, as evidence even in court.

Oh - and one other thought - the threads should be relabelled to "The Evidence - the links" and "The Evidence - the conversation" or something along those lines. If that is in line with what you were thinking?
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That works for me :) I just want a place to go for links/sourced info...they get lost in pages of discussion and when I want to find something it is very difficult.
 
hiero2

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mewmewmew13 said:
Haha...I think this is colorful and quite realistic imagery.:D


...I meant to add, that unless this is made a sticky, as we already have many that are repositories for facts and links only, that this thread is doomed to being 'evidence' mixed with much discussion.

Personally, it seems that we have some stickies that might crossover some of this info...or used to have ...I haven't checked lately. :confused:
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Mew, if you could check that we aren't duplicating effort here - that would be nice. I'm afraid I am out of time to go looking. I don't think we have another "facts and links only" repository for evidence about LA vs USADA, do we? In part, we can't, because it hasn't been released yet - but if we have a previously restricted thread for evidence on Lance, perhaps I should move the links there? If it is a CLEAN repository, that is. I am annoyed by all this conversation when I come looking for links to evidence. I do enjoy the conversation - but it wasn't what I was seeking.
 
mewmewmew13

mewmewmew13

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heiro, I will look, but I think we certainly do not have an evidence stash.
We have Lance: all things legal. I agree with your frustration though...it really needs a sticky otherwise it is just an invitation for folks, like me :eek:, to blather. Sorry...

Mods?
 
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Race Radio said:
Is that a famous enough witness for you? :)
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as far as i can tell from the article, she was interviewed. whether or not she said anything is not in the article.

does anybody know if his ex-wife or the girlfriend he had when he was sick were interviewed?
 
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Am I missing something? Nothing in the article says she provided any evidence of LA doping. The one quote from her was from an interview in 2005 when she defended LA against those allegations. No surprise she was interviewed. The question is, what did she say? RR implied she was a better witness than George. That remains to be seen.

mewmewmew13 said:
I never liked her...
I like her a little bit more now....:)
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Why? If she did see evidence of doping, why didn't she speak out then? At least Tyler, Floyd and the others were trying to keep their jobs. What was her excuse, particularly after the engagement was off?

If she sat on this evidence all along, for 6-7 years, I would think much less of her, not that i had much of an opinion one way or another before.
 
hiero2

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mewmewmew13 said:
I never liked her...
I like her a little bit more now....:)
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:D Yeah! +1
I never liked her - until she after she broke w/ LA. I never listened to her - until somebody pointed out that "Real Gone" might be the story of Sheryl and LA. Now I listen. And she's fine looking - which doesn't make it any harder to listen!
 
mewmewmew13

mewmewmew13

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hiero2 said:
:D Yeah! +1
I never liked her - until she after she broke w/ LA. I never listened to her - until somebody pointed out that "Real Gone" might be the story of Sheryl and LA. Now I listen. And she's fine looking - which doesn't make it any harder to listen!
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Lol heiro

and to you MI, yes, I heard that she did want to chat...
only 'hearsay' but I believe it. Guess we'll find out soon
 
Race Radio

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thirteen said:
darlin', Dave beat you to it in post #352. time to get over your jet lag, chop chop :D

but, lord, is it sweet!
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what, what, what? ;) Be talking about it for a few days, known about if for a long time

Wait till you hear how the powers that be found out that Sheryl was interested in talking. It's a great story....but I am tired, been up for 24 hours. Need sleep Zzzzzzz
 
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gregod said:
as far as i can tell from the article, she was interviewed. whether or not she said anything is not in the article.

does anybody know if his ex-wife or the girlfriend he had when he was sick were interviewed?
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Lisa Shiels.......no comment :D
 
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Wait ... wait, don't leave us hanging! Did she actually SEE anything? If he let her in on what was going on then he IS pretty stupid.
 
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Merckx index said:
If she sat on this evidence all along, for 6-7 years, I would think much less of her, not that i had much of an opinion one way or another before.
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I suspect that his ex-wife and ex-lovers all know the truth and decided that it wasn't worth it for them to "snitch" on Lance. They likely have direct knowledge of how vengeful Lance is when he's crossed.

Did any journalist ever ask them anything? Did they ever openly deny that Lance ever doped?
 
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DomesticDomestique said:
LauraLyn is relatively new to these boards and in the last couple hours as attempted to out RaceRadio's identity and completely contradicted him on the issue of evidence coming out. Is LauraLyn another fanboy intern, masquerading in the clinic?
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NNNNnnnooooo!!! Could NEVER happen.....:rolleyes:
 
D-Queued

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Race Radio said:
what, what, what? ;) Be talking about it for a few days, known about if for a long time

Wait till you hear how the powers that be found out that Sheryl was interested in talking. It's a great story....but I am tired, been up for 24 hours. Need sleep Zzzzzzz
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No question you knew it was coming. I was surprised.

Dave.
 
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