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Dec 7, 2010
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Now some of you may begin to understand the importance of having Contador at next year's Tour.

If he's banned, it's going to be a promenade for Andy Schleck. People don't want to see this-they want to see these two riders challenge each other like they did this year.

Without the drama, ratings and profits will drop.

Yes I see importance. They want to lose money and have the drama.
 
Angliru said:
Yeah, I saw that too and it all left me rather puzzled about what was the point of posting the article with the chosen headline. In the end they lost money but that's a good thing? :confused:

I think this clears up the matter.... Poor Lance & go Floyd!!

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...rong-had-little-effect-on-tour-profits_153716

In 2006, the year that winner Floyd Landis was later disqualified for a positive drug test, ASO’s annual income climbed by more than $30 million to $192.3 million (145.8 million euros). In its annual report, ASO wrote: “If this edition confirmed the good financial health of the Tour de France, with another increase in operating profit, the positive control of Floyd Landis … again tarnished cycling’s image.”

Neither Bloomberg nor the web sites that picked up the story recognized that the increase in ASO’s 2009 revenues was not due to the seven-time winner’s comeback to the Tour but to the return of ASO’s other major sports property, the Dakar motor rally. That prestigious multi-day off-road adventure race for cars, motorcycles and trucks was not held in 2008 because of terrorist threats on its traditional course through the Sahara Desert to the Dakar, the capital of Senegal.

The Dakar’s 2008 cancellation, partly offset by a resultant insurance payment, resulted in ASO’s income dropping by $56.4 million — from a record of $227.2 million (154.4 million euros) in 2007 to $170.8 million (121.2 million euros) in 2008. The partial $37.3 million recovery last year to $208.1 million (145.2 million euros) was almost entirely due to the restoration of the Dakar Rally, which was held in the South American countries of Argentina and Chile to avoid potential terrorist activity in West Africa.

As a result, ASO reported that “after a difficult 2008, marked by the cancellation of the Dakar, the 2009 year allowed ASO’s profitability to be restored.” The company added that because of “the sharp increase in organizational costs, which were only partially compensated by the financial support from the countries traversed, the profitability of the Dakar … decreased.”
 
Aug 13, 2009
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thehog said:
I think this clears up the matter.... Poor Lance & go Floyd!!

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...rong-had-little-effect-on-tour-profits_153716

In 2006, the year that winner Floyd Landis was later disqualified for a positive drug test, ASO’s annual income climbed by more than $30 million to $192.3 million (145.8 million euros). In its annual report, ASO wrote: “If this edition confirmed the good financial health of the Tour de France, with another increase in operating profit, the positive control of Floyd Landis … again tarnished cycling’s image.”

Neither Bloomberg nor the web sites that picked up the story recognized that the increase in ASO’s 2009 revenues was not due to the seven-time winner’s comeback to the Tour but to the return of ASO’s other major sports property, the Dakar motor rally. That prestigious multi-day off-road adventure race for cars, motorcycles and trucks was not held in 2008 because of terrorist threats on its traditional course through the Sahara Desert to the Dakar, the capital of Senegal.

The Dakar’s 2008 cancellation, partly offset by a resultant insurance payment, resulted in ASO’s income dropping by $56.4 million — from a record of $227.2 million (154.4 million euros) in 2007 to $170.8 million (121.2 million euros) in 2008. The partial $37.3 million recovery last year to $208.1 million (145.2 million euros) was almost entirely due to the restoration of the Dakar Rally, which was held in the South American countries of Argentina and Chile to avoid potential terrorist activity in West Africa.

As a result, ASO reported that “after a difficult 2008, marked by the cancellation of the Dakar, the 2009 year allowed ASO’s profitability to be restored.” The company added that because of “the sharp increase in organizational costs, which were only partially compensated by the financial support from the countries traversed, the profitability of the Dakar … decreased.”

It was obvious to anyone that knows the ASO's business that the Dakar fiasco was the key to the increase. You have to wonder who sent Bloomberg the internal ASO email?

Nothing like a little media spin during a time of chaos.
 
May 25, 2009
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On a related matter why is John "How do you see the state of mountain biking?" Wilcockson writing an article critical or undermining LA? Does he do this from time to time to maintain some semblance of credibility?
 
Aug 13, 2009
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First the Velonews story is pulled and modified....now it appears nowhere on the site, just the link is active.

Someone just got a call from Wonderboy.
 
May 25, 2009
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Race Radio said:
First the Velonews story is pulled and modified....now it appears nowhere on the site, just the link is active.

Someone just got a call from Wonderboy.

People, you can't make this stuff up! Quick while it's back up someone get a screen cap quick! It seems back up for now.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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I do not see it anywhere on the site. The link still works but it is not up on the site. Here is the publishing times

Published Dec 21st 2010 8:58 PM EST — Updated Dec 22nd 2010 11:14 AM EST

Here is the news list

RadioShack looks to pick up Pegasus riders
Dec 22Must Reads: Feillu's move; Davis' hopes; Breschel's prize; Lotto's future
Dec 22More hints at 2011 Vuelta route
Dec 21Spanish athletes raise alarm over clenbuterol
Dec 21Tuft joins SpiderTech following Pegasus setback
Dec 21Richmond makes worlds bid official
Dec 21Must Reads: Bauer aims for Europe; focus on Fuentes; Sørensen to soar in 2011; looking back at 2010
Dec 21Team Movistar moves ahead despite no GC star
Dec 20Ben King looks forward to first year in the big leagues
Dec 20iamTedKing: Greetings from camp
Dec 20Contador denies ties to accused trainer
Dec 20

It disappeared like magic....almost like when my email was hacked a few weeks ago.
 
Race Radio said:
First the Velonews story is pulled and modified....now it appears nowhere on the site, just the link is active.

Someone just got a call from Wonderboy.

Normally the video segments of Stade2 are put up on the web site after the show. When they aired the interview with Floyd a few weeks ago, this was the only segment of that weeks show that wasn't put up on their site. I suspected that this was due to pressure from the Armstrong camp - which was later confirmed by a reliable source.

He appears to be busy manipulating the media.

Does he have something to hide?
 
Race Radio said:
I do not see it anywhere on the site. The link still works but it is not up on the site. Here is the publishing times



Here is the news list



It disappeared like magic....almost like when my email was hacked a few weeks ago.

I guess you weren't the only one hacked.?
 
Oct 25, 2010
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Race Radio said:
...almost like when my email was hacked a few weeks ago.

A tip for you Gmail account holders. You can check to see if anyone OTHER THAN YOU has been logging-in to your Gmail account:

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Last account activity
Clicking the Details link next to the Last account activity line at the bottom of any Gmail page shows information about recent activity in your mail.

Recent activity includes any time that your mail was accessed, using a regular web browser, through a POP client, from a mobile device, etc. We'll list the IP address from which the access was made, the associated location, as well as the time and date.
How to use this data
If you're concerned about unauthorized access to your mail, you'll be able to use this data to find out if and when someone gained access. It's information we'd use to troubleshoot unauthorized account activity, and now it's available to you. Does the Access Type column show any unusual access? If you don't use POP to collect your mail, but your Recent activity table is showing some POP access, it may be a sign that your account has been compromised.

The IP address column is also useful. We list the last 10 IP addresses and the associated location. If you received a warning about suspicious activity in your account, you may see up to 3 IP addresses that have been labeled as suspicious in addition to the 10 normal IP addresses. How do we guess the location? In most cases, we match your IP address to a broad geographical location. If you always or most often sign in to Gmail using a single computer, your IP address should be the same, or start with the same two sets of numbers (for example, 172.16.xx.xx). If you're seeing an IP address that differs greatly from your usual IP address, it could either mean that you've recently accessed your mail from a different location, or that someone else has accessed your mail. Your current IP address is displayed below the Recent activity table. In addition, you may notice that the location and IP mappings may not always be accurate, especially in cases where the logins are old.

Please note: If you have POP3 or IMAP enabled, you'll see this in your recent activity table. If you're fetching your messages to another Gmail account, a Google IP will appear; this is simply because the messages are being fetched through our servers. In addition, if you use a third party service with your Gmail service, such as social networking sites, we cannot guarantee the security of the third party service. In this case, you may consider using forwarding if possible. If not, please make sure that your account recovery details are fully up to date.

In addition, some mobile providers and internet proxies may also appear in your recent login history, and in some cases, may appear to come from a different geographic location than you are normally based in.

If you'd like to find more information than what is provided in the Last account activity section, it is Google's policy to only provide information pursuant to a valid third party court order or other appropriate legal process.
Concurrent sessions
If your mail is currently being accessed from another location, we'll list the other session(s) in the Concurrent session information table. This could mean that you simply have another browser window open with Gmail loaded, or that your home computer is logged in to Gmail while you're accessing your mail from work. If you're concerned about any concurrent access, you can sign out all sessions other than your current session by clicking Sign out all other sessions. By putting up a warning, aren’t you just signaling to the bad guys that they’ve been caught? We’ve designed the alert to only be displayed to users who have performed logins that we believe are legitimate. If we detect suspicious activity from a particular IP address, we will not show the alert to users coming from that IP address.

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Oct 25, 2010
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Oldman said:
Botany: thanks alot. I'll be vigilant.

Just make sure you know the IP addresses of the various places that you access from, and be aware that sometimes you might be using a "floating" IP instead of a static.

For the newbie, knowledge of this Gmail feature often sends them into a panic, as they often immediately think they've been hacked, when in fact, they're just seeing their own past logins from home or at the office.

Best way to test it, is to send emails to people you suspect of hacking you, write down their IP after they reply and keep those numbers handy.
 
Oldman said:
Botany: thanks alot. I'll be vigilant.

The CSE flatheads are always contacting me. Generally I get a PM along the lines of "Hi there I'm fake name and im setting an exciting new cycling publication. Ive been reading some of your posts and we really like your style. Send us your name and email and lets talk about publishing some of your writings".
 
Oct 25, 2010
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thehog said:
The CSE flatheads are always contacting me. Generally I get a PM along the lines of "Hi there I'm fake name and im setting an exciting new cycling publication. Ive been reading some of your posts and we really like your style. Send us your name and email and lets talk about publishing some of your writings".

1) Never give them your personal or work email address.

2) If they seem to somehow get it from another source, and they send you an email, do NOT open it (no matter what).

They might not be hacking you, but there are ways they can track and gather additional intel after you open that message. Trust me.
 
Sanity Check

Stories appearing and vanishing isn't such a big deal.

The way the CMS that velonews uses works is the content is all dynamically generated. But this can be complicated by caching. Even if they don't touch the story, content you see depends on which time/page/other things.

If the editors get picky about wording EXCLUSIVE of outside influence, then the story goes out of the pool of available content until the editor is happy. This is what editors do. Editors have 'more' work because they can fiddle with content all day on the web.

If the publication is affected by outside influence, then sure, the story comes out of the pool of available content and the editor/writer fiddles with it to make it please the interested party.

Entertain the possibility that there's some 'make work' going on and perhaps some technical reasons why some of the content disappears/reappears.
 
Oct 25, 2010
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DirtyWorks said:
Stories appearing and vanishing isn't such a big deal.

The way the CMS that velonews uses works is the content is all dynamically generated. But this can be complicated by caching. Even if they don't touch the story, content you see depends on which time/page/other things.

If the editors get picky about wording EXCLUSIVE of outside influence, then the story goes out of the pool of available content until the editor is happy. This is what editors do. Editors have 'more' work because they can fiddle with content all day on the web.

If the publication is affected by outside influence, then sure, the story comes out of the pool of available content and the editor/writer fiddles with it to make it please the interested party.

Entertain the possibility that there's some 'make work' going on and perhaps some technical reasons why some of the content disappears/reappears.

Editors can choose to put up a fully vetted story if they wish to, and once they put it up, they can choose to leave it as if it were in ink.
 
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BotanyBay said:
Best way to test it, is to send emails to people you suspect of hacking you, write down their IP after they reply and keep those numbers handy.

This is flawed advice. The IP address in the headers is not as immediately useful as you imply. Especially if it is a webmail<->webmail messages.
 
BotanyBay said:
Editors can choose to put up a fully vetted story if they wish to, and once they put it up, they can choose to leave it as if it were in ink.

Right, but that doesn't happen as much the given the technology enables them to pick nits.

I'm not actually disagreeing with the notion that the story may have come down because of negative feedback. I'm suggesting other viable reasons. The extra reasons I provided are common occurences.
 
Oct 25, 2010
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DirtyWorks said:
This is flawed advice. The IP address in the headers is not as immediately useful as you imply. Especially if it is a webmail<->webmail messages.

example? I've used webmail often and my real IP is usually contained somewhere in the headers. You just need to know which IP address to write down.
 
Oct 4, 2010
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Re: "email hacking": What about just changing the password to some non-dictionary combination, repeating once in a while? Unfortunately, paranoia levels need to come down as a sideeffect...
 
Aug 13, 2009
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Pelkey explains:

We actually didn't "yank" it off the site. One of our editors made a small error and unclicked the "news" tag on the story. It was on the site - but only under our Tour de France coverage. No one voiced any objection - including "Wonder Boy" (I assume that's Patrick O'Grady you're talking about, right?). Anyway, when I came on this morning at 3:00, I noticed John's message that the story was not on the front page. I corrected the mistake and thought that the story was interesting enough to warrant a slot in the Top spot.

No conspiracy, no late-night phone calls ... just a small screw up, which was fixed.
 

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