The Grand 2022 Wollongong UCI Road World Championships Thread, September 18th-25th

[Extinction]

That's a sickener, wonder how much time he lost but it would've been close definitely.

Well Hayter was up on Foss at the first time check, but evidently Foss flew on the second lap, because Kung, who was flying throughout, had to concede victory to the Norwegian. Whatever the case, Hayter would I think bettered Kung and so pushed Remco off the podium. Indeed he could have possibly won, but it would have been very close, within a couple of secs. either way.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Glad I got a full night sleep to be honest

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

But considering all circumstances the results are really explicable.
None of the top TT guys was at his best today (aparat from Kung who imho went too hot at some point and could've won that) plus some (WvA, Roglic) were absent. Foss who's a solid TTst showed up in excellent form with super fresh legs and great knowledge of the course. And he won.

So I'd say a huge surprise, but not so much if you look closer at it.

Evenepoel came out and said he did his best TT ever with the best watts he ever did. So. Uhm. idk man. Maybe just acknowledge Foss did an insane TT

 

[Red Rick]

Evenepoel came out and said he did his best TT ever with the best watts he ever did. So. Uhm. idk man. Maybe just acknowledge Foss did an insane TT

Gaps to the entire field don't really reflect that statement, including gaps to guys like Pogacar, Hayter with a mechanical. Kung hasn't really lit up TTs this year, etc.

Now part of it may be the difference between a stage race TT and a one day TT, and part of it may be a lot of guys being in better form than the spring and Evenepoel being specifically talking about ~40 minute TTs.

But Foss has had no wins before today that weren't Norwegian national titles. He also didn't get any WT top 5 this year before this. I think it's less plausible that he suddenly woke up and became the worlds best ITTer at peak than that a lot of guys underperformed today.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

That's a sickener, wonder how much time he lost but it would've been close definitely.

Yeah I did shout at the screen when I saw Hayter's mechanical and by then I kind of knew Remco who I had for straight win was not going to do it. I think he might have been very, very close.

Meanwhile I wonder if Ineos will say to Ganna they've had enough of paying him to be a professional TT rider and throw him into a Tim Declerq role and give the likes of Hayter, Plapp and Sheffield more support in TT?

Finally, not sure if many other posters outside the UK will know what I'm on about but don't you think Stefan Kung kooks a bit like ex-PM David Cameron?

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

I wake up and see Tobias Foss is the World ITT Champion. Chapeau to him, must’ve put in an insane performance today.

 

[Dk one]

Maybe riders adapting differently to the time difference / jetlag is a factor in Van Vleuten, partly Reusser and some of the male riders bonking..

 

[limak_]

Evenepoel came out and said he did his best TT ever with the best watts he ever did. So. Uhm. idk man. Maybe just acknowledge Foss did an insane TT

Best watts aren't enough when you loose like 0,5 sec every corner and there's 50 corners on the route.
Also I never know how to take all those riders' not proven "did my best watts ever" claims.

Anyway, Foss did an insane TT indeed, but you can't look at it without putting it into some context. I'm just wondernig if next season he'll be able to show that he's a deserved champion and not only a one-day wonder.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Wright will win the road race. You heard it here first.

And say Roglic was his inspiration.

 

[Eeslliw]

Lol all the talk about cornering and how Remco would win it with less of them. If this ITT would be on ZWIFT, Jay Vine would win it. How about that?

 

[gregrowlerson]

And say Roglic was his inspiration.

That will go without saying.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Best watts aren't enough when you loose like 0,5 sec every corner and there's 50 corners on the route.
Also I never know how to take all those riders' not proven "did my best watts ever" claims.

Anyway, Foss did an insane TT indeed, but you can't look at it without putting it into some context. I'm just wondernig if next season he'll be able to show that he's a deserved champion and not only one-day wonder.

And I feel like every time there is a surprising win, people do too little to credit the actual winner, and if the field isn't actually bad, they try to tell everyone had an off day. I'm not taking that anymore. It's a bad take

 

[tobydawq]

Lol all the talk about cornering and how Remco would win it with less of them. If this ITT would be on ZWIFT, Jay Vine would win it. How about that?

He would not.

 

[Extinction]

And say Roglic was his inspiration.

Lol all the talk about cornering and how Remco would win it with less of them. If this ITT would be on ZWIFT, Jay Vine would win it. How about that?

Nobody said that but go on.

 

[search]

That's a sickener, wonder how much time he lost but it would've been close definitely.

he was still close to Küng's time just before the mechanical at least

 

[topcat]

That will go without saying.

View: https://youtu.be/aSkQij6lGJ4

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Best facial expression of the day

 

[limak_]

And I feel like every time there is a surprising win, people do too little to credit the actual winner, and if the field isn't actually bad, they try to tell everyone had an off day. I'm not taking that anymore. It's a bad take

I agree with you here and maybe I'm indeed too much one of those people that you're talking about.

However, I feel like TT worlds are becoming less and less prestigous (people criticize van Aert for not participating but let's be real, he knew he had a medal here but it's not worth compromising your chances in a road race, even if we're not sure how much of an impact on performance a week later it has) and if Foss won't get any wins or at least top 3s in well staffed TTs next season (which I wish him to do, but I'm not quite sure he's able to repeat this performance regularly in other circumstances), a TT WC jersey will become even less valuable and it's not great for the discipline.

 

[tobydawq]

I agree with you here and maybe I'm indeed too much one of those people that you're talking about.

However, I feel like TT worlds are becoming less and less prestigous (people criticize van Aert for not participating but let's be real, he knew he had a medal here but it's not worth compromising your chances in a road race, even if we're not sure how much of an impact on performance a week later it has) and if Foss won't get any wins or at least top 3s in well staffed TTs next season (which I wish him to do, but I'm not quite sure he's able to repeat this performance regularly in other circumstances), a TT WC jersey will become even less valuable and it's not great for the discipline.

Apart from Van Aert not participating, I see absolutely no signs that the WCTT is getting less prestigious.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I agree with you here and maybe I'm indeed too much one of those people that you're talking about.

However, I feel like TT worlds are becoming less and less prestigous (people criticize van Aert for not participating but let's be real, he knew he had a medal here but it's not worth compromising your chances in a road race, even if we're not sure how much of an impact on performance a week later it has) and if Foss won't get any wins or at least top 3s in well staffed TTs next season (which I wish him to do, but I'm not quite sure he's able to repeat this performance regularly in other circumstances), a TT WC jersey will become even less valuable and it's not great for the discipline.

It doesn’t help they only wear the jersey in time trials and with the amount and distance going down, it gets seen less. I have this big accomplishment and jersey for it but I get to barely show it off.

 

[limak_]

Apart from Van Aert not participating, I see absolutely no signs that the WCTT is getting less prestigious.

But relatively to road race its prestige is questionable.

 

[Valv.Piti]

What the hell did just happen?

 

[tobydawq]

But relatively to road race its prestige is questionable.

Well, obviously. But that has always been the case.

 

[Breezy1985]

Yeah I did shout at the screen when I saw Hayter's mechanical and by then I kind of knew Remco who I had for straight win was not going to do it. I think he might have been very, very close.

Meanwhile I wonder if Ineos will say to Ganna they've had enough of paying him to be a professional TT rider and throw him into a Tim Declerq role and give the likes of Hayter, Plapp and Sheffield more support in TT?

Finally, not sure if many other posters outside the UK will know what I'm on about but don't you think Stefan Kung kooks a bit like ex-PM David Cameron?

I now hate Stefan Kung.

Thanks for that man

 

[Red Rick]

What the hell did just happen?

Jet lag and end of season fatigue?