The Grand Monument Elimination Game

[Netserk]

In 2014, Nibali attacked on the Cipressa. I'm surprised it isn't winning this.

What is your ranking of the 10 Sanremo editions in question?

 

[del1962]

Heal 2016 RVV
Hurt 2015 LBL

 

[Gigs_98]

Heal: Ronde 2014
Hurt: MSR 2014

 

[SafeBet]

Heal: Roubaix 2016
Hurt: Liege 2016

 

[Netserk]

Heal: 2012 Roubaix
Hurt: 2013 Lombardia

25 - 2016 Roubaix​

25 - 2018 Lombardia​

24 - 2021 Roubaix​

23 - 2012 Liège​

23 - 2015 Lombardia​

22 - 2016 Ronde​

22 - 2016 Lombardia​

22 - 2017 Ronde​

21 - 2012 Roubaix​

21 - 2013 Roubaix​

21 - 2014 Ronde​

21 - 2017 Lombardia​

21 - 2018 Sanremo​

21 - 2018 Roubaix​

21 - 2019 Sanremo​

21 - 2019 Ronde​

21 - 2019 Lombardia​

21 - 2020 Ronde​

21 - 2020 Lombardia​

21 - 2021 Sanremo​

20 - 2012 Ronde​

20 - 2012 Lombardia​

20 - 2013 Sanremo​

20 - 2013 Liège​

20 - 2015 Ronde​

20 - 2017 Sanremo​

20 - 2017 Roubaix​

20 - 2020 Sanremo​

20 - 2021 Ronde​

20 - 2021 Liège​

19 - 2019 Roubaix​

19 - 2020 Liège​

19 - 2021 Lombardia​

18 - 2013 Ronde​

18 - 2013 Lombardia​

18 - 2014 Roubaix​

18 - 2015 Liège​

18 - 2017 Liège​

18 - 2018 Ronde​

18 - 2018 Liège​

18 - 2019 Liège​

17 - 2012 Sanremo​

16 - 2015 Roubaix​

15 - 2014 Liège​

14 - 2016 Liège​

12 - 2014 Lombardia​

06 - 2014 Sanremo​

06 - 2015 Sanremo​

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[tobydawq]

What is your ranking of the 10 Sanremo editions in question?

2019
2017
2013
2020
2012
2021
2018
2015
2014
2016

I think. But I don't remember all details from all the races, I just rewatched the 2014 race for some reason.

 

[Netserk]

Milano - Sanremo:

2012 - 17(-2)
2013 - 20
2014 - 8(-2)
2015 - 6(-4)
2016 - 0, 49th
2017 - 20
2018 - 23
2019 - 21
2020 - 20
2021 - 21

Ronde van Vlaanderen:

2012 - 20
2013 - 18
2014 - 20
2015 - 20
2016 - 21
2017 - 22
2018 - 18
2019 - 21
2020 - 21
2021 - 20

Paris - Roubaix:

2012 - 20
2013 - 20
2014 - 18(-2)
2015 - 16
2016 - 24(+1)
2017 - 20
2018 - 21
2019 - 19
2021 - 24

Liège - Bastogne - Liège:

2012 - 23
2013 - 20
2014 - 15
2015 - 20
2016 - 16
2017 - 18
2018 - 18
2019 - 18
2020 - 19
2021 - 20

Giro di Lombardia:

2012 - 20
2013 - 20
2014 - 12
2015 - 23(+1)
2016 - 22
2017 - 21
2018 - 24
2019 - 21
2020 - 21(+1)
2021 - 19

Sorted by points:
25-2018 Lombardia
24-2016 Roubaix
24 - 2021 Roubaix
23 - 2012 Liège
23-2015 Lombardia
23 - 2018 Sanremo
22 - 2017 Ronde
22 - 2016 Lombardia
21 - 2016 Ronde
21 - 2017 Lombardia
21 - 2018 Roubaix
21 - 2019 Sanremo
21 - 2019 Ronde
21 - 2019 Lombardia
21-2020 Lombardia
21 - 2020 Ronde
21 - 2021 Sanremo
20 - 2012 Ronde
20 - 2012 Roubaix
20 - 2012 Lombardia
20 - 2013 Sanremo
20 - 2013 Roubaix
20 - 2013 Liège
20 - 2013 Lombardia
20 - 2014 Ronde
20 - 2015 Ronde
20 - 2015 Liège
20 - 2017 Sanremo
20 - 2017 Roubaix
20-2018 Roubaix
20 - 2020 Sanremo
20 - 2021 Ronde
20 - 2021 Liège
19-2014 Roubaix
19 - 2019 Roubaix
19 - 2020 Liège
19 - 2021 Lombardia
18 - 2013 Ronde
18-2018 Ronde
18 - 2017 Liège
18 - 2018 Liège
18 - 2019 Liège
17-2012 San Remo
16 - 2015 Roubaix
16 - 2016 Liège
15 - 2014 Liège
12 - 2014 Lombardia
8- 2014 Sanremo
6- 2015 Sanremo
I really hope I’m correct, otherwise I’m completely butchering the standings.

In your first half, you correctly have the 2014 Roubaix at 18 points, in the second half you wrongly have it at 19 points.

 

[Netserk]

2019
2017
2013
2020
2012
2021
2018
2015
2014
2016

I think. But I don't remember all details from all the races, I just rewatched the 2014 race for some reason.

Our top 6 differ quite a bit.

Mine:

1. 2013
2. 2017
3. 2012
4. 2021
5. 2019
6. 2020

Yours:

1. 2019
2. 2017
3. 2013
4. 2020
5. 2012
6. 2021

2012, 2017 & 2020 saw a few attackers getting away and deciding the race. 2017 was clearly the best of them, it broke the mould of the previous three years and it had a tight and uncertain sprint for the win. 2012 is iconic for Gerrans wheelsucking Cancellara, but other than the crash on the descent that eliminated Boonen, it was quite good. It was super tense with the chase, so I think it's ahead of 2020.

2013, 2019 & 2021 had a small group over the top of the Poggio. 2019 had the best sprint, but 2013 had the most action (also before Poggio). I quite liked Stuyven's win and the dynamic with Ewan and Wout in the group, but we probably differ quite a bit on failed chases.

On revision, I'll lower 2012 to 5th, but other than that, I'm quite happy with my first stab.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Heal: 2017 Lombardia
Hurt: 2014 Liège

 

[Red Rick]

Heal 2018 Liege
Hurt 2014 Lombardia

 

[Forever The Best]

Great thread. @Jumbo Visma Fan :)
Hurt: 2014 Lombardia
Heal: 2012 Sanremo

 

[Netserk]

Heal: 2019 Roubaix
Hurt: 2017 Liège

 

[del1962]

Heal Lombardia 2016
Hurt Liege 2014

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

I’m gonna let the rich get richer and poor get poorer
Heal-2018 Lombardy
Hurt-2015 MsR

 

[Netserk]

Heal: 2021 Ronde
Hurt: 2012 Lombardia

 

[Forever The Best]

Heal: 2013 Roubaix
Hurt: 2014 Liege

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Heal-2014 Liege
Hurt-2015 MSR

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

26-2018 Lombardia
24-2016 Roubaix
24 - 2021 Roubaix
23 - 2012 Liège
23-2015 Lombardia
23-2016 Lombardia
22-2016 Ronde
22 - 2017 Ronde
22-2013 Roubaix
21-2014 Ronde
21 - 2017 Lombardia
21-2018 Sanremo
21 - 2018 Roubaix
21 - 2019 Sanremo
21 - 2019 Ronde
21 - 2019 Lombardia
21-2020 Lombardia
21 - 2020 Ronde
21 - 2021 Sanremo
21-2021 Ronde
20 - 2012 Ronde
20 - 2012 Roubaix
20 - 2013 Sanremo
20 - 2013 Liège
20 - 2013 Lombardia
20 - 2015 Ronde
20 - 2017 Sanremo
20 - 2017 Roubaix
20-2018 Roubaix
20 - 2020 Sanremo
20 - 2021 Liège
20- 2019 Roubaix
19 - 2020 Liège
19 - 2021 Lombardia
18-2014 Roubaix
18 - 2013 Ronde
18-2018 Ronde
18-2015 Liège
18 - 2017 Liège
18 - 2019 Liège
18-2012 Lombardia
17-2012 San Remo
16 - 2015 Roubaix
16 - 2016 Liège
16-2017 Liège
12 - 2014 Lombardia
12-2014 Liege
6-2014 Sanremo
2-2015 Sanremo

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Heal - 2012 Lombardia
Hurt - 2014 LBL

 

[Netserk]

Heal: 2013 Sanremo
Hurt: 2019 Ronde

 

[Gigs_98]

Let's put it out of its misery.

Hurt: 2015 MSR
Heal: 2019 PR

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

26-2018 Lombardia
24-2016 Roubaix
24 - 2021 Roubaix
23 - 2012 Liège
23-2015 Lombardia
23-2016 Lombardia
22-2016 Ronde
22 - 2017 Ronde
22-2013 Roubaix
21-2014 Ronde
21-2013 Sormano
21 - 2017 Lombardia
21-2018 Sanremo
21 - 2018 Roubaix
21-2019 Roubaix
21 - 2019 Sanremo
21 - 2019 Lombardia
21-2020 Lombardia
21 - 2020 Ronde
21 - 2021 Sanremo
21-2021 Ronde
20 - 2012 Ronde
20 - 2012 Roubaix
20 - 2013 Liège
20 - 2013 Lombardia
20 - 2015 Ronde
20 - 2017 Sanremo
20 - 2017 Roubaix
20-2018 Roubaix
20 - 2020 Sanremo
20 - 2021 Liège
19-2021 Lombardia
19-2019 Ronde
19 - 2020 Liège
19 - 2021 Lombardia
18-2014 Roubaix
18 - 2013 Ronde
18-2018 Ronde
18-2015 Liège
18 - 2017 Liège
18 - 2019 Liège
17-2012 San Remo
16 - 2015 Roubaix
16 - 2016 Liège
16-2017 Liège
12 - 2014 Lombardia
10-2014 Liege
6-2014 Sanremo
0-2015 Sanremo

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Heal-19 MSR
Hurt-14 MSR

 

[Netserk]

Heal: 2017 Ronde
Hurt: 2020 Lombardia

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Just to note, you have two 2021 Lombardias, I assume one of them is meant to be 2012 - but they're on the same points so it makes no difference at this stage.

It will in a second, though, because:

Heal: 2012 Lombardia

I also haven't been petty for a while, so:
Hurt: 2016 Ronde

I know, toby, we're supposed to be judging the race quality, not the victor(s), but the objective of race quality is surely about enjoyment, and on that basis I'd have the entire day of the 2016 Ronde cast onto the pyre in a heartbeat.