- Feb 20, 2012
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Pozzo ain't gonna get any sponsors tbh, Cavs exposure at the Tour alone is probably worth more than Pozzos results.
- May 5, 2010
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Otoh, let's face it; his age - and the fact that he seems to be held together mainly by pure stubborness - means that we probably shouldn't be too shocked if he ends up retiring... I won't like it if that happens, but... yeah...
Intermarche is a Belgium team and have invested heavily on support for their biggest star Girmay, who could be a future star in the classics and other one-day races for years.
Pozzovivos results are nice and fair play to him for pushing on last year, when he didnt a have team. Intermarche gave him a spot and he rode really well for them last season, but it is not like he could demand them to offer him higher wages because of it. He will have to ride on the same premise as last year. They will give him a spot, for this amount of pay and he will ride for the best result in the races he wants.
It is nothing personal, but he is not irreplaceable and they have other priorities. Pozzovivo provides great value and is almost like a luxury to have for them, but it stops being great value if they have to pay him more for his services. The sponsor may see it the same way. Results in the classics and the Tour is the most important thing for them.
Pozzovivos results are nice and fair play to him for pushing on last year, when he didnt a have team. Intermarche gave him a spot and he rode really well for them last season, but it is not like he could demand them to offer him higher wages because of it. He will have to ride on the same premise as last year. They will give him a spot, for this amount of pay and he will ride for the best result in the races he wants.
It is nothing personal, but he is not irreplaceable and they have other priorities. Pozzovivo provides great value and is almost like a luxury to have for them, but it stops being great value if they have to pay him more for his services. The sponsor may see it the same way. Results in the classics and the Tour is the most important thing for them.
You don't offer a top 10 GC rider the minimum wage or slightly more - You are better not to offer a contract.
- Feb 20, 2012
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Should be worth a few hundred k I think but then his value as a stage hunter or smaller race winner is essentially 0 and he's not a great domestique because he's so tiny either.
Pozzo is facing the same dilemma as a lot of aging riders -- even if you have to pay him, say, only 150,000 euros, that's money that could be spent on developing a young talent. Or does IWC really think a second bottom half of Top 10 Giro rider is something they need? (with Meintjes)...
That said, if Meintjes's 2022 wasn't a flash in the pan and he's ready to move up a step to become a true potential Top 5 GC rider, Pozzovivo could be great mountain domestique.
That said, if Meintjes's 2022 wasn't a flash in the pan and he's ready to move up a step to become a true potential Top 5 GC rider, Pozzovivo could be great mountain domestique.
- Apr 13, 2021
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Sorry mate, you know that Pozzo is one of my favourite riders, but it's a no brainer to take Cavendish instead of him.
Cavendish winning stage 35 on the Tour will give a team so much more publicity and sponsor exposure than anything 40yo Pozzovivo can do, no matter how much of a legend he is. It would be one of the stories of the last 5 years in the sport.
Nairoman is a hot potato in these times unfortunately
And I hope Pozzovivo gets 1 more season at least, injury-free, he was robbed of so much in his long career
- Dec 27, 2015
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- Jul 27, 2009
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Pozzovivo himself decided not to go stage hunting and chasing the mountains jersey, but rather went for a top 5 placement at the Giro d'Italia again.
It ended up like it does always. He started off surprisingly strong, but then faded away in the final week. Of course due to that crash as well. It's the story of his career.
Eventually even Jan Hirt surpassed him on the general classification.
Pozzo doesn't deserve an better offer by Wanty, since he doesn't learn it anymore. He should have given up on chasing a Giro d'Italia podium after he cracked at Finestre in 2018. He really could've earned a nice stage win this year. Instead he got an anonymous bottom-end top 10.
I'm sorry as I really like him, but it's self-inflicted!
It ended up like it does always. He started off surprisingly strong, but then faded away in the final week. Of course due to that crash as well. It's the story of his career.
Eventually even Jan Hirt surpassed him on the general classification.
Pozzo doesn't deserve an better offer by Wanty, since he doesn't learn it anymore. He should have given up on chasing a Giro d'Italia podium after he cracked at Finestre in 2018. He really could've earned a nice stage win this year. Instead he got an anonymous bottom-end top 10.
I'm sorry as I really like him, but it's self-inflicted!
- Apr 10, 2019
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I don't know if Finestre was him cracking or just his climbing style (always standing and an absurdly front loaded center of gravity) being really inefficient on gravel.
Other than that I sadly have to agree with you.
- Sep 26, 2020
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Publicity wise it would probably have been a better choice to target the mountains classification, if he had managed to win it, which I don't think he would have, but an 8th place was still worth 220 UCI points, which you couldn't expect to get from a neo-pro. He scored 714 points in total this year, which could almost have been enough to save Lotto from relegation.
Pozzovivo has to value the opportunity to be on a WT-roster and being able to get a start at the Giro, at this point in his career.
If he was in it for the money, he would/should have already quit a long time ago.
If he was in it for the money, he would/should have already quit a long time ago.
- Nov 16, 2013
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Are people actually suggesting that a top 10 GT GC rider should settle for minimum wage?
How many riders do you guys expect ride for that?
How many riders do you guys expect ride for that?
If he has the desire to continue to ride as a pro, he aint got much choice.
It is nothing personal and I would say it depends on what team is interested, in this moment of time.
Most teams probably have a hard time justifying paying more than what they have offered him and they are probably not gonna budge on that. They will see at as an act of kindness to give him another year as a pro, even if the case can be made that he has earned it... it does not work like that.
- Jul 27, 2009
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Did Pozzo leave AG2R on bad terms? Because they never really filled his gap as team leader for the Giro d'Italia. Unless Gall majorly improves in 2023.
- Apr 10, 2019
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Yeah, I see Gall more as a Vuelta guy, one for shorter and steeper climbs, not one for the high mountains.
AG2R has had some hits and misses in the last couple of years with their transfers.
They would have been in trouble without the likes of Cosnefroy and O´Connor.
Mountainbiker Victor Koretzky verlaat B&B Hotels-KTM en tekent bij BORA-hansgrohe
BORA-hansgrohe heeft met Victor Koretzky zijn laatste aanwinst voor volgend jaar binnen. De 28-jarige Fransman, die ook actief is op de mountainbike en in het gravelen, had nog een doorlopend contract bij B&B Hotels-KTM, maar dat ProTeam zit in de problemen. De renners hebben te horen gekregen...www.wielerflits.nl
Koreztky to Bora confirmed; a good move for him.......
And also to Specialized Factory Racing, similar to Colombo riding for different teams on road/MTB.
SPECIALIZED SIGNS MARTIN VIDAURRE AND VICTOR KORETZKY TO ITS XCO TEAM - Mountain Bike Action Magazine
Specialized has signed two of the top cross-country racers in the world to its racing team. Both Martin Vidaurre of Chile and Victor Koretzky of France
mbaction.com
- Nov 16, 2013
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A few days after you wrote this, PCS did switch David van der Poel with Kielich on their list of the Alpecin roster. Then a few days later they removed Kielich again, leaving a 29-rider roster. Now they added Osborne as the 30th rider. And on Alpecin's own website it's the same (at least now, I didn't check if they had also added Kielich).
- Dec 27, 2015
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Lorenzo Masciarelli takes a step back from Cross and will focus on road more. He also signed with Colpack
- Aug 14, 2012
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I think it was a bigger mix-up because originally Kielich was indeed going to join the pro team but with Rickaert being again sidelined at least for the beginning of the season, they deemed it was too early for Kielich to get Rickaert's duties and signed Sinkeldam instead for that purpose. They then kept/promoted Osborne (I'm not sure if he was already planned to join the pro team) and will let Kielich develop another year in the Development team (while doing .1 and .Pro races with the first team) in order to join the WT team in 2024 as part of their lead-out team.
- Nov 16, 2013
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- Aug 29, 2009
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Superman will race in Colombia in 2023. So probably Medellin, unless Savio somehow managed to get him on board.
View: https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1610665757435924481
View: https://twitter.com/mundociclistico/status/1610665757435924481
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