I doubt EF is happy with Carapaz' year after the Giro, even though he is showing good signs in the Italian one day races. He does spend lots of time out of Europe.
I doubt EF is happy with Carapaz' year after the Giro, even though he is showing good signs in the Italian one day races. He does spend lots of time out of Europe.
Fair point.
On the other hand, EF needs/likes to have a South American GC-leader who rides with panache. Apart from Bernal, not many out there who fits the bill if they had to find someone else.
Reckon and hope this is just hot air
would be nice.
I then see mainly 4 teams for the GC next year. With teams like Jayco, EF and Bahrain in the next tier.
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Jayco? I think there are plenty of teams with a way more relevant GC leader than O'Connor. Decathlon will be interesting to follow next year and Ineos should still have a say, especially if they also add Vauquelin and/or Gee (not sure where he is rumoured). I'd also put Movistar and Picnic as a much more relevant GC teams than Jayco.
But I agree that Ayuso to Lidl makes it more interesting. We need more than the usual three super teams fighting it out in grand tours. Ideally guys like Almeida and at least one of the Red Bull leaders should have their own teams, too.
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True! Decathlon will be interesting! Well I just thought of other GC riders and Oconnor popped up in my head
. But I agree that especially Decathlon and Ineos will be more intersting then Jayco.
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Good match, should offer good support, good opportunities and good salary.
- Dec 27, 2015
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Leo Hatyer and Riley Pickrell linked with the new Hincapie team according to Benson
Which is odd, cause I tought Pickrell really fitted with the Canadian identity of the IPT team, but judging by his schedule this year it looked like they already gave up. Or you know, it's the other reason
Which is odd, cause I tought Pickrell really fitted with the Canadian identity of the IPT team, but judging by his schedule this year it looked like they already gave up. Or you know, it's the other reason
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Umba was also close to them, but it is being reported he will be upgraded once again to Astana main squad. There might be someting odd about the project - or they simply found better options, which is the case for both Warbasse and Umba.
This guy doesn't learn the lesson-. 5 years contract?
View: https://x.com/dnlbenson/status/1967615379783712957
View: https://x.com/dnlbenson/status/1967615379783712957
- Jul 8, 2017
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Well, he guarantees himself a decent pay check for 5 years ahead at least.
I suppose he still has high value and if he doesn't perform next year and the year after, his value will me much lower, so..
Yes, but if he is not satisfied , they will start again with the story of mistreatment and that he is obligated to fulfill a contract.
Let's remember that this whole story began despite Ayuso signing the renewal with UAE, when he had already been there for months and was aware of the situation.
Now he's signing another long-term contract, instead of a three-year one.
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Yeah, no. In 2 years he'll be 25 (still young, but..). And if he hasn't performed for 5 years in a GT, they will be a lot more cautious.
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I'd say Trek doesn't learn or his agents doesn't learn. Boy ain't fully grownup yet (literally). Really weirdly long contract.
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Piganzoli confirmed to Visma. Slightly strange transfer from his perspective. Would have been much more fun to have him as a Giro striver on a smaller team rather than as a cog in the Visma machine. But I guess he goes for the paycheck, which is fair enough.
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Im not sure I agree. There is room in visma for a young GT rider to get some opportunities. Simon Yates will go for less and less, I don't have too much faith in uttedbrockes. Could see piganzoli getting full support to target the giro in the next 2-3 years, and obviously visma will give the best preparation.
Most of the young riders in the team now are more classics guys.. it's not like he's going to uae to sit behind Pocagar, Almida, Adam Yates, de Toro, V$ne, Torres, mcnutly, soler, narveaz, cristen, etc in the pecking order.
I'm not sure there's a huge financial incentive. For your salary it's better to be a big fish in a small pond... unless you go to UAE with unlimited budget, which clearly isn't the case for Visma given their transfer season. I think it's worth trying if you can make it on Visma. For some people it doesn't work at all (Attila Valter), for some people it's a slam dunk (Jorgenson).
Visma go from one Italian (Affini) to four. And Affini is basically a Dutchman.
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There is a big step between pro Italian teams and a structured WT team like Visma in terms of training, setup, nutrition, etc.
Knowing Piganzoli a bit, I'm pretty sure money is not the only driver here. He wants to improve and believes Visma is the right place to do so.
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I also don't think leading a PCT twice in the Giro has been all that exciting. The weight of the whole team on his shoulders to finish 13th in GC. Two years more of that is likely to see him stagnate.
He'll probably ride the Giro again next year, but purely as a helper, no pressure. And then he'll get opportunities elsewhere with a free role and room to grow in to a more leading role.
He'll probably ride the Giro again next year, but purely as a helper, no pressure. And then he'll get opportunities elsewhere with a free role and room to grow in to a more leading role.
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Not a transfer but I'm gonna put it here. Wagner Bazin (Wallonie Bruxelles before) is folding at the end of the year. Even tho Wagner had a contract with the team for 2026 too, they are stopping their funding and no new sponsor was found.
A new Belgian continental team will be born out of it tho, ment for the development of Walloon riders. It will be sponsored by Color Code who were one of the first sponsors of the WB team back in the day (a bit of nostalgia there).
A new Belgian continental team will be born out of it tho, ment for the development of Walloon riders. It will be sponsored by Color Code who were one of the first sponsors of the WB team back in the day (a bit of nostalgia there).
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Maybe where I differ from others here is that I don't think Piganzoli will ever be good enough to lead a Giro on a team like Visma. I think he will not go much beyond a fringe top 10 rider, and I don't like those guys being 2nd to last in some superteam mountain train, especially not when it's someone I have a soft spot for (been following Piganzoli's career for a long time as I'm always hoping for some new Italian stars). But going to a high performing team to see how good he can get is of course a very legit motivation. So maybe I could amend my first comment from 'slightly strange transfer from his perspective' to 'slightly strange transfer from my perspecitve'.
- Apr 10, 2019
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Wouldn't surprise me if he makes at least as big of a jump forwards as Pellizzari made this year at Bora.
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I agree with that.Maybe where I differ from others here is that I don't think Piganzoli will ever be good enough to lead a Giro on a team like Visma. I think he will not go much beyond a fringe top 10 rider, and I don't like those guys being 2nd to last in some superteam mountain train, especially not when it's someone I have a soft spot for (been following Piganzoli's career for a long time as I'm always hoping for some new Italian stars). But going to a high performing team to see how good he can get is of course a very legit motivation. So maybe I could amend my first comment from 'slightly strange transfer from his perspective' to 'slightly strange transfer from my perspecitve'.
But he is still very young, and can go elsewhere to lead a team after this contract if his ceiling is below that of Caruso.
Then you can find it strange that he signed for three years rather than two, but he may think he can benefit from greater development and investment that way than with a two-year contract.
It looks like that, but also it's hard to know. Polti's set-up isn't great at all, Visma's is one of the best in the world. He could well have a big jump in level.Maybe where I differ from others here is that I don't think Piganzoli will ever be good enough to lead a Giro on a team like Visma. I think he will not go much beyond a fringe top 10 rider, and I don't like those guys being 2nd to last in some superteam mountain train, especially not when it's someone I have a soft spot for (been following Piganzoli's career for a long time as I'm always hoping for some new Italian stars). But going to a high performing team to see how good he can get is of course a very legit motivation. So maybe I could amend my first comment from 'slightly strange transfer from his perspective' to 'slightly strange transfer from my perspecitve'.
I agree that seeing top-ten candidates become domestiques is annoying, but there's a lot of unknowns when going from a team like Polti to Visma
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