The Great Grand-Tour-Game 2014/15 "TdF Monster Edition"

[Ruudz0r]

Yeeej made it through another round .

Thanks for hosting Foxxy

 

[ILovecycling]

When Kristoff crossed the line I didnt care about Cav or Sagan but first on my mind was, 'Foxxy has made it '

It will be carnage in the Vuelta, congrats to all who passed!

 

[ILovecycling]

as for the Championship round, I checked some Vuelta profiles and its not even closely deciding week (the 3rd one),only one TT and one better mountain stage.
I wonder how you will work this out foxxy

 

[Sasquatch]

Yeah, Foxxy did great as usual. Thanks for running it.

I'll be back next year.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Official Final Standings Le Tour de France 2015 (Round IV):

To see who scored what, when, and where with which rider(s) in the stages and the T-20s, use the following links (also posted in the front page #1). There are also all ranking points and (if necessary) tie-breaker steps listed.
Anquetil
Bartali
Coppi
Defraeye

The Anquetil-Division:
1st Geraint Too Fast (DC)
2nd Hugo87
3rd FoxxyBrown1111
4th al_pacino
5th The Hitch
6th Jspear
7th Pantani_lives

The Bartali-Division:
1st mutschi
2nd Wallenquist (DC)
3rd Flamin
4th Eshnar
5th Ruudz0r
6th Poursuivant
7th LosBrolin

The Coppi-Division:
1st diggercuz (DC)
2nd aarnold517
3rd ILovecycling
4th l.Harm
5th Vino attacks everyone
6th Sasquatch
7th Mellow Velo

The Defraeye-Division:
1st mortand (WC)
2nd Pricey_sky
3rd the sceptic (DC)
4th vladimir
5th Arredondo
6th search
7th kiilike

(In red; Qualified for the Grand Final 2015, La Vuelta 2015 - Vuelta Ciclista a España)

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Thanks Foxxy for all your effort, happy to finish 2nd in my group and to score 30.5 gives a realistic shot of a place in the Vueltas final week.

Thanks too! You ensured your spot in Defraeye, but it´s not a given to be the weakest one again.

Yeeej made it through another round.

Thanks for hosting Foxxy

Welcome & congrats, Ruud a true GGTG ninja. Never see him, but always qualifying.

When Kristoff crossed the line I didnt care about Cav or Sagan but first on my mind was, 'Foxxy has made it '

It will be carnage in the Vuelta, congrats to all who passed!

Thanks for rooting... Oh my, that was adrenaline pur. Thanks to tie-breakers, Kristoff shot me from the hot seat all the way up to 3rd in the division. A thriller... But I´d rather have a relaxed Vuelta, at least until after the cut...

as for the Championship round, I checked some Vuelta profiles and its not even closely deciding week (the 3rd one),only one TT and one better mountain stage.
I wonder how you will work this out foxxy

Good question. Now I need to relax and then have a look at more profiles later in the coming week.

Yeah, Foxxy did great as usual. Thanks for running it.

I'll be back next year.

Thanks also. Looking forward to see you next year again...

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Front page for the Vuelta is updated (draw pot, inherited points, etc.)...

As you know; after a GT is before a GT

 

[diggercuz]

Ah stoked with the division win, but at the start i was certain that i was going to be eliminated. It certainly helps getting a few bang on - especially Barguil at 14... who would of thought...

Anyway congrats to all that have made it through to the next round and commiserations for those who didnt...

Looking forward to the next round!

 

[Eshnar]

Yay see ya at the Vuelta

PS: Can I say I don't like the format? I mean, I don't like the elimination due to the second rest day... I believe it's pointless and potentially very unfair.

 

[diggercuz]

Re:

Yay see ya at the Vuelta

PS: Can I say I don't like the format? I mean, I don't like the elimination due to the second rest day... I believe it's pointless and potentially very unfair.

I am also in agreement here with this... Unless its solely based on stage wins and podiums then im kinda cool with it...

If provisional results are included then there does not allow for someone to come back from the dead... Like me in this years TdF - i was facing elimination and then slowly clawed my way back to a win... Would of been devastated to be knocked out prematurely...

So yeah - if you did want to have an elimination base it on stage predictions or alternatively you could add in another top 20 GC prediction for the completion of stage 14 (or ish) on top of the final GC - but that could be way too much work in my opinion.

However - i just ran some scenarios for this years TdF (yup Foxxy the spreadsheet is working a treat for these situations).

If one person was to drop out the day before the rest day based on provisional results then they would be:

The Hitch;
LosBrolin;
Mellow Velo; and
kiilike.

however if based on Stage points up till stage 16 it would be (in the case of a tie whoever has more stage wins will progress):

FoxxyBrown1111;
LosBrolin;
aarnold517; and
kiilike.

Alternatively you could do Inherited Points & Stage Points then the following would be eliminated after stage 16:

al_pacino;
Poursuivant;
aarnold517 (tied with Mellow Velo but maybe Mellow would go through as scored more stage points); and
kiilike.

Red colour indicates participant was not bottom two at the end of TdF...

So make of that what you will. Just thought i would put some ideas out there...

 

[aarnold517]

Thanks again for doing this foxxy, you continue to impress with provisionals, scenarios, and everything else we need to calm the nerves

Also congrats on moving on, I'll see you at the vuelta!

 

[ILovecycling]

I like the format, but it has to be considered when to make the cut because after 2nd rest day those stages are dull.
...but
I partly agree with you and Eshnar,(understand your point guys) but the rules are defined before the picks are made so everybody can make his decision if play safe till the cut and go for lot of 'no3rdweekGCrider' in his T20, or risk it and go for a overall Victory or a medal.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Besides it is too late anyway to step away from the "Inside-Cut", here is the reason behind it:

1.) The final winner shall really deserve it (ofc luck will play its part too), so a little more deep thinking, and a little more work, must be asked for. No one said it shall be easy.
2.) The cuts are "the salt in the soup". A little extra thrill is certainly not for the worse.
3.) The original idea was to ask us players for a "perfect T-20". Considered must be two weeks guys who drop in the 3rd week (a good example is Gallopin, ), and "ninja guys" who slug it out day in day out for three weeks and thus end up T-20...

But to make things easier (dont know if you all followed the thread in the middle of the TdF), two T-20 replacements can be named (upfront, together with the stage picks and T-20s), and used after the cut (example: Zubeldia is picked as 19th, Trofimov as 20th originally. Player named Roche and Ten Dam as possible replacements. Now Roche for example can be put into 19th, while Zubeldia is picked off. Further, but not a must, Ten Dam can replace Trofimov on 20th, as 2nd used replacement).
Or one T-20 position swap is allowed after the cut (example a player has Landa on 1st, Froome on 4th: He can change Froome to 1st and Landa to 4th). Such position swap means basically two corrections, thus replacement T-20s can not be used. Either a swap or 1-2 T-20 replacement players.
I think it´s awesome: Like a soccer match where coach uses jokers for a late game surge.
I am pretty sure you guys will like that option.

Further: One stage replacement player can be used after the cut (also named upfront, together with the send T-20 and original stage picks).
Example: Player has Sagan on stage 19. Player named Degenkolb as possible stage replacement upfront. Now he can bring in Degenkolb for stage 19, and drop off Sagan.
But take care of the "3 stages" rule. If Degenkolb the replacement is already picked for three stages originally, he can not be used as a replacement stage pick ofc.

4.) Nice side-effect: Tactical thinking is asked for. Will be fun.

Thanks again for doing this foxxy, you continue to impress with provisionals, scenarios, and everything else we need to calm the nerves

Also congrats on moving on, I'll see you at the vuelta!

Thanks a lot. And I have to announce that Diggercuz will help out for the future with a better spread-sheet which will help me a lot. He worked out everything so far, that stage provisionals can be published in a hurry and for every single stage.
That will also save me time, so I can use it to post more interesting stats...

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

Besides it is too late anyway to step away from the "Inside-Cut", here is the reason behind it:

1.) The final winner shall really deserve it (ofc luck will play its part too), so a little more deep thinking, and a little more work, must be asked for. No one said it shall be easy.
2.) The cuts are "the salt in the soup". A little extra thrill is certainly not for the worse.
3.) The original idea was to ask us players for a "perfect T-20". Considered must be two weeks guys who drop in the 3rd week (a good example is Gallopin, ), and "ninja guys" who slug it out day in day out for three weeks and thus end up T-20...

But to make things easier (dont know if you all followed the thread in the middle of the TdF), two T-20 replacements can be named (upfront, together with the stage picks and T-20s), and used after the cut (example: Zubeldia is picked as 19th, Trofimov as 20th originally. Player named Roche and Ten Dam as possible replacements. Now Roche for example can be put into 19th, while Zubeldia is picked off. Further, but not a must, Ten Dam can replace Trofimov on 20th, as 2nd used replacement).
Or one T-20 position swap is allowed after the cut (example a player has Landa on 1st, Froome on 4th: He can change Froome to 1st and Landa to 4th). Such position swap means basically two corrections, thus replacement T-20s can not be used. Either a swap or 1-2 T-20 replacement players.
I think it´s awesome: Like a soccer match where coach uses jokers for a late game surge.
I am pretty sure you guys will like that option.

Further: One stage replacement player can be used after the cut (also named upfront, together with the send T-20 and original stage picks).
Example: Player has Sagan on stage 19. Player named Degenkolb as possible stage replacement upfront. Now he can bring in Degenkolb for stage 19, and drop off Sagan.
But take care of the "3 stages" rule. If Degenkolb the replacement is already picked for three stages originally, he can not be used as a replacement stage pick ofc.

4.) Nice side-effect: Tactical thinking is asked for. Will be fun.

Thanks again for doing this foxxy, you continue to impress with provisionals, scenarios, and everything else we need to calm the nerves

Also congrats on moving on, I'll see you at the vuelta!

Thanks a lot. And I have to announce that Diggercuz will help out for the future with a better spread-sheet which will help me a lot. He worked out everything so far, that stage provisionals can be published in a hurry and for every single stage.
That will also save me time, so I can use it to post more interesting stats...

awesome job Foxxy, looking forward to Vuelta

 

[Hugo87]

It was a really fun game again ,scores are really close so Vuelta will be tight.

And i want to be on Anquetil again I need revenge against Geraint and to knockout Foxxy once and for all.

 

[al_pacino]

Thanks for running again Foxy.

Nice to make it through despite my miserable early stage selections and being up and down like a fiddlers elbow during the provisionals. I'm sure to have more luck with my stage picks next time

 

[Ruudz0r]

Re:

Welcome & congrats, Ruud a true GGTG ninja. Never see him, but always qualifying.

Ye I talked to Zubeldia once (without me seeing him obviously), I must have picked up more then i thought!

 

[mutschi]

Ok I am finally able to thank Foxxy for another awesome game. Congrats to all who made it. Celebrations were intense after Kristoff did it for my team. Hangover followed. Slowly recovering. Looking forward to Vuelta. Seems like I have to study the additional rules but it looks interesting. We played a similar format amongst friends for the Tour and the exchange at rest day was interesting and re-vitalized the game so I think it will work well.

 

[diggercuz]

I like the substitution rule!

Looking forward to the Vuelta... Now, lets hope a few of the TdF guys go along and make it a Battle Royale...

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Gonna go for an all or nothing attitude for the vuelta. A few Aru stages and the just randomers all the way

 

[Tigerion]

That's the way Vino, ride to win

 

[ILovecycling]

Hi Foxxy, when is the infamous draw?

 

[vladimir]

Only 9 days until selections needs to be submitted for the final Vuelta
Hope there will be a lot more action in this thread in the coming days, and that provisional and final startlists very soon will appear at the usual places. As it is now I have no chance to pick a realistic top 20...

 

[diggercuz]

Yep I'm super pumped for the Vuelta...

And i cant agree more in regards to the top 20.. who's on form, who is fatigued... argh, so many variables!

But still, cant wait!

 

[ILovecycling]

This will be a real thriller!
Bring it on